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CCP Falcon C C P C C P Alliance 646	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:14:00 - [1] - Quote Hey Guys, As some of you may have heard today, thereGÇÖs been reports of job cuts here at CCP in the gaming media. As part of our strategy to focus on the EVE Universe, today we conducted a restructuring that resulted in the layoff of 49 people in our publishing organization. This has been a really tough decision for us to make, and though itGÇÖs hard to say goodbye to our friends and family, this action concludes the process we started several months ago to restructure CCP. CCP has provided severance packages and job placement assistance for all those employees who are affected, and we wish them all the best for the future. In terms of what this means for our games, development teams and plans for EVE Online, EVE: Valkyrie, DUST 514, and GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ are not impacted by the restructuring that has taken place today. If you'd like to discuss what's happened today, feel free to do so in this thread. Thanks, - F CCP Falcon \|\| EVE Community Manager \|\| EVE Illuminati \|\| @CCP_Falcon

Immortal John Ripper 22308	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:33:00 - [2] - Quote 1st Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1266	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:48:00 - [3] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: These layoffs have to do with WOD correct? WOD was 9 years into development and was constantly set back as the bastard child of CCP. Layoffs source: http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/5/5782190/ccp-iceland-layoffs-eve-online More in depth article: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/world-of-darkness-the-inside-story-mmo-ccp-white-wolf This article worries me. Is this how management handles Dust 514 aswell? Abandoning work, shifting employees to other projects? Didn't that already happen at fanfest when some Dust 514 employees switched over to work on legion? Exactly how many people are working on Dust 514 and how many are working on legion? All those years of work on WOD now feel like a major waste of time as many Dust players feel at this point. Perhaps the layoffs did not affect Dust 514 or legion directly but it serves as another fine example of how management at CCP works. The players faith in management must be restored or else none of us will ever truly rest easy. Well, I just came to post this... but you beat me to it. Quite sad reading both of those. And, clearly, Dust was treated the same way as WoD, that can be seen by the continuous shifting of teams back to Eve. Hopefully they get their act together for Legion (since it's a PC thing in the Eve universe, I'm sure they will). I think I'm over Dust now...
Immortal John Ripper 22309	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:55:00 - [4] - Quote Goodbye CCP Eterne! https://twitter.com/FreeAgentEterne/status/474565763492507648 Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
Sigourney Reever Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 31	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:04:00 - [5] - Quote Years before this news, these confirmations, and unfortunately, the layoffs, it was clear to anyone who paid attention, that Executive Management was the source of most of the missteps by CCP. Unfortunately, not too much has changed as far as I can tell. People are holding out for Legion (and Valkyrie), and yet we see the EXACT same problems: Redundant Resources, Lack of Vision for Overall Gameplay, utter Arrogance and ignorance by Executive Staff (a la Fanfest). This "refocusing" on the Eve universe is the same story as '09 when Dust was announced (to WoD fan's dismay) and the same story when Walking in Stations (and MonocleGate) failed, and the same Story when Dust was 'released' and the same story today. You had me CCP. You had a bunch of friends of mine. We were giving you $. Happily. We're not really into it now, and we know you're not going to change until the people who make your decisions for you are replaced.
Immortal John Ripper 22317	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:10:00 - [6] - Quote Sigourney Reever wrote: Years before this news, these confirmations, and unfortunately, the layoffs, it was clear to anyone who paid attention, that Executive Management was the source of most of the missteps by CCP. Unfortunately, not too much has changed as far as I can tell. People are holding out for Legion (and Valkyrie), and yet we see the EXACT same problems: Redundant Resources, Lack of Vision for Overall Gameplay, utter Arrogance and ignorance by Executive Staff (a la Fanfest). This "refocusing" on the Eve universe is the same story as '09 when Dust was announced (to WoD fan's dismay) and the same story when Walking in Stations (and MonocleGate) failed, and the same Story when Dust was 'released' and the same story today. You had me CCP. You had a bunch of friends of mine. We were giving you $. Happily. We're not really into it now, and we know you're not going to change until the people who make your decisions for you are replaced. I'm looking for a job. Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
End Is Here Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 32	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:23:00 - [7] - Quote Im layed off too........ from dust. You duds messed with the wrong logi suit.... @ layed off employees, how much for 'god mode'?
Immortal John Ripper 22321	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:32:00 - [8] - Quote End Is Here wrote: Im layed off too........ from dust. You duds messed with the wrong logi suit.... @ layed off employees, how much for 'god mode'? I am not ready to reveal that secret. Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3609	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:57:00 - [9] - Quote CCP had 49 Publishing staff? Just how big is CCP anyway? Is the marketing guy who decided that it would be a good idea to not tell any of the DUST players about Legion until the DUST 514 Keynote among those 49? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2651	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:58:00 - [10] - Quote Obviously it wasn't too hard... Much better reporting on the issue: TheMittani The Guardian CCP Explained

Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1293	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:08:00 - [11] - Quote How many employees you had before this layoff? 49 people is considerable amount. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Immortal John Ripper 22323	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:28:00 - [12] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Obviously it wasn't too hard... Much better reporting on the issue: TheMittani The Guardian I already posted both of those links... Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2534	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:29:00 - [13] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: How many employees you had before this layoff? 49 people is considerable amount. If CCP has/had 500 employees, it's almost 10% of the workforce laid off. That's a lot. Under that 500, it's ridiculous. I'm sure there are, if not GOOD, at least Reasons. Please elaborate? the people who would normally make this type of announcement are now laid off ^^
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1695	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:38:00 - [14] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: How many employees you had before this layoff? 49 people is considerable amount. If CCP has/had 500 employees, it's almost 10% of the workforce laid off. That's a lot. Under that 500, it's ridiculous. I'm sure there are, if not GOOD, at least Reasons. Please elaborate? The reason is that CCP has produced one modestly successful game in a niche genre it had all to itself. Instead of realizing that their success was from the fact that Eve is the only game like it, they have mislead themselves into thinking they have some hot commodity with the Eve universe and are spent money on a failure (Dust 514), a game that will never be (WoD), and now 2 other games. Additionally they have talked themselves into believing that Eve is such a rich Sci-fi universe that it needs a TV show. So this all equals them spending more money than Eve brings in. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2652	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:39:00 - [15] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Obviously it wasn't too hard... Much better reporting on the issue: TheMittani The Guardian I already posted both of those links... Saturation. CCP Explained
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3611	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:46:00 - [16] - Quote From theguardian article. Quote: Most of the sources spoken to for this piece identified the same problematic CCP manager, who had little vision for what the finished game would look like. GÇ£Not once could he answer any question about moment-to-moment gameplay or areas of focus,GÇ¥ says one source. GÇ£Instead, he preferred to deliver buzzword-laden ramblesGÇª It was not uncommon for him to communicate in onomatopoeia. "I once saw him looking over the shoulder of a programmer at some bit of User Interface the poor guy had hacked together. He straightened up, put fingers to lips and said, GÇÿNo, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhhGÇÖ He hissed on his ******* fingertips, like the air coming out of a bicycle tire, and then just walked away.GÇ¥ I am glad we have CCP Rouge in charge of Legion. While he took a lot of flack for the DUST 514 keynote, I have seen enough recordings of him talking about the games in smaller events at Fan Fest to be confident that he has a clear vision for the game. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2649	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:54:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: In terms of what this means for our games, development teams and plans for EVE Online, EVE: Valkyrie, DUST 514, and GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ are not impacted by the restructuring that has taken place today. CCP Eterne isn't a part of EVE, DUST, or Legion development? I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Cpl Foster USMC The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 949	Posted - 2014.06.05 18:27:00 - [18] - Quote grabs popcorn----nom, nom, nom...
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3151	Posted - 2014.06.05 18:33:00 - [19] - Quote so the hardworking staff get the shaft and idots reasonable for the awful ****-ups are left in charge does not seem fair to me, why doen't the CEO come here or on the EvE forums and explain to us how he not going to continue to drive his company into the ground. ...my feeling on this subject have been getting worse when i found out hemliar got his freaking fluff team to write the apology of incerna "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3151	Posted - 2014.06.05 18:37:00 - [20] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: From theguardian article. Quote: Most of the sources spoken to for this piece identified the same problematic CCP manager, who had little vision for what the finished game would look like. GÇ£Not once could he answer any question about moment-to-moment gameplay or areas of focus,GÇ¥ says one source. GÇ£Instead, he preferred to deliver buzzword-laden ramblesGÇª It was not uncommon for him to communicate in onomatopoeia. "I once saw him looking over the shoulder of a programmer at some bit of User Interface the poor guy had hacked together. He straightened up, put fingers to lips and said, GÇÿNo, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhhGÇÖ He hissed on his ******* fingertips, like the air coming out of a bicycle tire, and then just walked away.GÇ¥ I am glad we have CCP Rouge in charge of Legion. While he took a lot of flack for the DUST 514 keynote, I have seen enough recordings of him talking about the games in smaller events at Fan Fest to be confident that he has a clear vision for the game. iv got a feeling rouge was brought in for the very reason that he knows what he is doing and as a outsider can solve a number of the problems being face by CCP, in pure development direction alone let alone the culture problems "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers

Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4809	Posted - 2014.06.05 18:56:00 - [21] - Quote However wronged we feel about Dust's demise, it can't compare to what your own employees are feeling, knowing that it all stems from such shoddy management. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Skyhound Solbrave Rough Riders.. Primus Federation 253	Posted - 2014.06.05 19:13:00 - [22] - Quote The fact that they pulled men out of WoD to work on EVE is the only questionable thing here. CCP NEEDS to clean house, the Investors saw that and wanted it to happen. Why? Because the Devs working on Dust and WoD were -terrible-. Here is what I don't understand about people who are buying gaming rigs NOW just to play Legion in the future. The problems that exist currently in Dust, will exist in Legion. I'm not talking about the size of battles, the poor implementation of PC, or EVE connectivity. I'm talking about the fact that Dust514 was a BAD FPS game. It took them three months to even get the game to aim correctly, and it STILL has bad aiming. Hit detection is still screwed up, ask any shotgunner. Matchmaking is still terrible. However, the absolute worst thing about Dust was the horrid balancing. EVERYTHING CCP makes is OP and ends up having to be re-balanced. Just look at vehicles. The staff that CCP has are not able to make a good game. They need to clean house and re-think how they're going to make Legion. They have to do what FFXIV:ARR did. Shut down the game, fire everyone that came up with a bad game, and hire someone to make a good game.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 1772	Posted - 2014.06.05 19:36:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Hey Guys, As some of you may have heard today, thereGÇÖs been reports of job cuts here at CCP in the gaming media. As part of our strategy to focus on the EVE Universe, today we conducted a restructuring that resulted in the layoff of 49 people in our publishing organization. This has been a really tough decision for us to make, and though itGÇÖs hard to say goodbye to our friends and family, this action concludes the process we started several months ago to restructure CCP. CCP has provided severance packages and job placement assistance for all those employees who are affected, and we wish them all the best for the future. In terms of what this means for our games, development teams and plans for EVE Online, EVE: Valkyrie, DUST 514, and GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ are not impacted by the restructuring that has taken place today. If you'd like to discuss what's happened today, feel free to do so in this thread. Thanks, - F We told you so over and over yet CCP refused to listen that trying to do too many projects at once results in doing nothing except lost time and money. Too bad about the folks lost jobs but thats due to CCP arrogance with too many PR folks and too few Game Developers AKA coders. Toss in CCP low wages being paid to the coders and the WTF? high wages paid to the PR folks and its a disaster that everyone saw comeing years ago. Sorry but I am not going to bother with Legion.
Immortal John Ripper 22334	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:15:00 - [24] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: From theguardian article. Quote: Most of the sources spoken to for this piece identified the same problematic CCP manager, who had little vision for what the finished game would look like. GÇ£Not once could he answer any question about moment-to-moment gameplay or areas of focus,GÇ¥ says one source. GÇ£Instead, he preferred to deliver buzzword-laden ramblesGÇª It was not uncommon for him to communicate in onomatopoeia. "I once saw him looking over the shoulder of a programmer at some bit of User Interface the poor guy had hacked together. He straightened up, put fingers to lips and said, GÇÿNo, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhhGÇÖ He hissed on his ******* fingertips, like the air coming out of a bicycle tire, and then just walked away.GÇ¥ I am glad we have CCP Rouge in charge of Legion. While he took a lot of flack for the DUST 514 keynote, I have seen enough recordings of him talking about the games in smaller events at Fan Fest to be confident that he has a clear vision for the game. That part made me laugh. What kind of drugs is that CCP manager on??? Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
General John Ripper 22341	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:15:00 - [25] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: From theguardian article. Quote: Most of the sources spoken to for this piece identified the same problematic CCP manager, who had little vision for what the finished game would look like. GÇ£Not once could he answer any question about moment-to-moment gameplay or areas of focus,GÇ¥ says one source. GÇ£Instead, he preferred to deliver buzzword-laden ramblesGÇª It was not uncommon for him to communicate in onomatopoeia. "I once saw him looking over the shoulder of a programmer at some bit of User Interface the poor guy had hacked together. He straightened up, put fingers to lips and said, GÇÿNo, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhhGÇÖ He hissed on his ******* fingertips, like the air coming out of a bicycle tire, and then just walked away.GÇ¥ I am glad we have CCP Rouge in charge of Legion. While he took a lot of flack for the DUST 514 keynote, I have seen enough recordings of him talking about the games in smaller events at Fan Fest to be confident that he has a clear vision for the game. That part made me laugh. What kind of drugs is that CCP manager on??? Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
aaaasdff ertgfdd Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:21:00 - [26] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: These layoffs have to do with WOD correct? WOD was 9 years into development and was constantly set back as the bastard child of CCP. Layoffs source: http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/5/5782190/ccp-iceland-layoffs-eve-online More in depth article: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/world-of-darkness-the-inside-story-mmo-ccp-white-wolf This article worries me. Is this how management handles Dust 514 aswell? Abandoning work, shifting employees to other projects? Didn't that already happen at fanfest when some Dust 514 employees switched over to work on legion? Exactly how many people are working on Dust 514 and how many are working on legion? All those years of work on WOD now feel like a major waste of time as many Dust players feel at this point. Perhaps the layoffs did not affect Dust 514 or legion directly but it serves as another fine example of how management at CCP works. The players faith in management must be restored or else none of us will ever truly rest easy. The game Development and how you handle a company that needs cuts are 2 diffrent things. Sometimes you must chew off your arm to get out of the trap. This is how any company works. Laying people off canceling projects, restructure sometimes are simply necessary for survival.
Immortal John Ripper 22335	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:23:00 - [27] - Quote aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: These layoffs have to do with WOD correct? WOD was 9 years into development and was constantly set back as the bastard child of CCP. Layoffs source: http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/5/5782190/ccp-iceland-layoffs-eve-online More in depth article: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/world-of-darkness-the-inside-story-mmo-ccp-white-wolf This article worries me. Is this how management handles Dust 514 aswell? Abandoning work, shifting employees to other projects? Didn't that already happen at fanfest when some Dust 514 employees switched over to work on legion? Exactly how many people are working on Dust 514 and how many are working on legion? All those years of work on WOD now feel like a major waste of time as many Dust players feel at this point. Perhaps the layoffs did not affect Dust 514 or legion directly but it serves as another fine example of how management at CCP works. The players faith in management must be restored or else none of us will ever truly rest easy. The game Development and how you handle a company that needs cuts are 2 diffrent things. Sometimes you must chew off your arm to get out of the trap. This is how any company works. Laying people off canceling projects, restructure sometimes are simply necessary for survival. It took them 9 years to figure out their arm was in a trap and they had to cut it off? seriously... I understand what you are saying but in light of this situation.. IT MAKES NO SENSE! Is your defense "they finally did the right thing?" because it is still a bad one. Did you read the entire article? Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
General John Ripper 22341	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:23:00 - [28] - Quote aaaasdff ertgfdd wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: These layoffs have to do with WOD correct? WOD was 9 years into development and was constantly set back as the bastard child of CCP. Layoffs source: http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/5/5782190/ccp-iceland-layoffs-eve-online More in depth article: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/world-of-darkness-the-inside-story-mmo-ccp-white-wolf This article worries me. Is this how management handles Dust 514 aswell? Abandoning work, shifting employees to other projects? Didn't that already happen at fanfest when some Dust 514 employees switched over to work on legion? Exactly how many people are working on Dust 514 and how many are working on legion? All those years of work on WOD now feel like a major waste of time as many Dust players feel at this point. Perhaps the layoffs did not affect Dust 514 or legion directly but it serves as another fine example of how management at CCP works. The players faith in management must be restored or else none of us will ever truly rest easy. The game Development and how you handle a company that needs cuts are 2 diffrent things. Sometimes you must chew off your arm to get out of the trap. This is how any company works. Laying people off canceling projects, restructure sometimes are simply necessary for survival. It took them 9 years to figure out their arm was in a trap and they had to cut it off? seriously... I understand what you are saying but in light of this situation.. IT MAKES NO SENSE! Is your defense "they finally did the right thing?" because it is still a bad one. Did you read the entire article? Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4347	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:37:00 - [29] - Quote You got rid of 49 people who were working on nothing? I find that difficult to believe. If they were working on something, it effects the game's development.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2015	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:58:00 - [30] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: From theguardian article. Quote: Most of the sources spoken to for this piece identified the same problematic CCP manager, who had little vision for what the finished game would look like. GÇ£Not once could he answer any question about moment-to-moment gameplay or areas of focus,GÇ¥ says one source. GÇ£Instead, he preferred to deliver buzzword-laden ramblesGÇª It was not uncommon for him to communicate in onomatopoeia. "I once saw him looking over the shoulder of a programmer at some bit of User Interface the poor guy had hacked together. He straightened up, put fingers to lips and said, GÇÿNo, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhhGÇÖ He hissed on his ******* fingertips, like the air coming out of a bicycle tire, and then just walked away.GÇ¥ I am glad we have CCP Rouge in charge of Legion. While he took a lot of flack for the DUST 514 keynote, I have seen enough recordings of him talking about the games in smaller events at Fan Fest to be confident that he has a clear vision for the game. iv got a feeling rouge was brought in for the very reason that he knows what he is doing and as a outsider can solve a number of the problems being face by CCP, in pure development direction alone let alone the culture problems Changes nothing if the CEO is hellbent on running the corporation into the ground trying to gain the popularity I assume he didn't have in high school. Minmatar Weapons Specialist Explosives Connoisseur Logi for Hire



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