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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:52:00 -
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Guess I missed something. I even warned my corp to save up for fitting optimization skill because I thought they were doing this to proto too.
Edit: I think they changed the complex CPU though.
Part of me is a little annoyed because I thought the point was to make it harder on brick tanked scouts. So I guess on the proto level we are still going to see Gallente running around armor tanking.
I didn't realize they were changing Cal Scout either. This is a good change, but i wonder if it is enough.
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2014.06.05 00:25:00 -
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*sigh* Bump.
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Gooseman Manwhore
CREATURES OF THE NIGHT
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Posted - 2014.06.05 00:28:00 -
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I find it funny how gravity only affects your stamina in this game..... That much armor would make it really hard to jump.... "Ha ha! time to scout some brooberres! I are teh armer taco. Nuuuu! I am defeated by the hill I can't climb!" Maybe I also have too much time on my hands.
I put the sexi in dyslexia
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens Final Resolution.
2735
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Posted - 2014.06.05 00:49:00 -
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Quote: So I guess on the proto level we are still going to see Gallente running around armor tanking.
Umh what? Do you even Dust bro?
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.06.05 00:54:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Quote: So I guess on the proto level we are still going to see Gallente running around armor tanking. Umh what? Do you even Dust bro?
Do YOU even dust? Hasn't the issue been scouts brick tanking? More power to you if you're running your scout the RIGHT way, but a lot of people are abusing armor plates on Gallente and even Caldari.
I thought the hotfix was going to fix this, not inhibit players who can't afford complex plates.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
3295
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Posted - 2014.06.05 00:54:00 -
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Gooseman Manwhore wrote:I find it funny how gravity only affects your stamina in this game..... That much armor would make it really hard to jump.... "Ha ha! time to scout some brooberres! I are teh armer taco. Nuuuu! I am defeated by the hill I can't climb!" Maybe I also have too much time on my hands. It actually does effect all movements. Try jump over a ledge using a bricked scout.
Also, tiny jumps that the heavy could sometimes make become even monolith like.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3371
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Posted - 2014.06.05 01:10:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Quote: So I guess on the proto level we are still going to see Gallente running around armor tanking. Umh what? Do you even Dust bro? Do YOU even dust? Hasn't the issue been scouts brick tanking? More power to you if you're running your scout the RIGHT way, but a lot of people are abusing armor plates on Gallente and even Caldari. I thought the hotfix was going to fix this, not inhibit players who can't afford complex plates. Do you even armour tank bro?
No-one uses complex plates except heavies and people who don't know better. They were terribad last week, and what with their increased penalty, they're probably worse now.
BlowoutForCPM
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.06.05 02:25:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Quote: So I guess on the proto level we are still going to see Gallente running around armor tanking. Umh what? Do you even Dust bro? Do YOU even dust? Hasn't the issue been scouts brick tanking? More power to you if you're running your scout the RIGHT way, but a lot of people are abusing armor plates on Gallente and even Caldari. I thought the hotfix was going to fix this, not inhibit players who can't afford complex plates. Do you even armour tank bro? No-one uses complex plates except heavies and people who don't know better. They were terribad last week, and what with their increased penalty, they're probably worse now.
Yep, what he said, most sensible people just run militia or basic plates. Mmmmmmmm BPO :) |
Vaux Karn
The Mercenary Collective
94
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Posted - 2014.06.05 02:32:00 -
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Two things, alpha was stated to force either brick tank scout or sneaky scouts, and jump height is based off movement speed and factors in whether of not you sprint prior to jumping. So increasing movement penalty for plates will also decrease jump height on brick tanks. |
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
2113
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Posted - 2014.06.05 02:41:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Quote: So I guess on the proto level we are still going to see Gallente running around armor tanking. Umh what? Do you even Dust bro? Do YOU even dust? Hasn't the issue been scouts brick tanking? More power to you if you're running your scout the RIGHT way, but a lot of people are abusing armor plates on Gallente and even Caldari. I thought the hotfix was going to fix this, not inhibit players who can't afford complex plates. Do you even armour tank bro? No-one uses complex plates except heavies and people who don't know better. They were terribad last week, and what with their increased penalty, they're probably worse now.
What increased penalty? Complex speed penalty remains the same.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
5912
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Posted - 2014.06.05 02:42:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Quote: So I guess on the proto level we are still going to see Gallente running around armor tanking. Umh what? Do you even Dust bro? Do YOU even dust? Hasn't the issue been scouts brick tanking? More power to you if you're running your scout the RIGHT way, but a lot of people are abusing armor plates on Gallente and even Caldari. I thought the hotfix was going to fix this, not inhibit players who can't afford complex plates. Do you even armour tank bro? No-one uses complex plates except heavies and people who don't know better. They were terribad last week, and what with their increased penalty, they're probably worse now.
Do -YOU- even armor tank bro? Speed penalty is the same xD
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Harpyja
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1824
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Posted - 2014.06.05 03:39:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Quote: So I guess on the proto level we are still going to see Gallente running around armor tanking. Umh what? Do you even Dust bro? Do YOU even dust? Hasn't the issue been scouts brick tanking? More power to you if you're running your scout the RIGHT way, but a lot of people are abusing armor plates on Gallente and even Caldari. I thought the hotfix was going to fix this, not inhibit players who can't afford complex plates. Do you even armour tank bro? No-one uses complex plates except heavies and people who don't know better. They were terribad last week, and what with their increased penalty, they're probably worse now. Do -YOU- even armor tank bro? Speed penalty is the same xD Haha, I guess the joke's on someone who doesn't use complex armor plates. I use complex armor plates.... on my advanced Amarr assault
Though it's just 1 because, well, I get 1 slot less than everyone else
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Aoena Rays
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
498
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Posted - 2014.06.06 02:13:00 -
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I haven't noticed anything drastic on armor plates after Alpha. I guess I am missing something then...
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3401
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Posted - 2014.06.06 03:21:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Quote: So I guess on the proto level we are still going to see Gallente running around armor tanking. Umh what? Do you even Dust bro? Do YOU even dust? Hasn't the issue been scouts brick tanking? More power to you if you're running your scout the RIGHT way, but a lot of people are abusing armor plates on Gallente and even Caldari. I thought the hotfix was going to fix this, not inhibit players who can't afford complex plates. Do you even armour tank bro? No-one uses complex plates except heavies and people who don't know better. They were terribad last week, and what with their increased penalty, they're probably worse now. What increased penalty? Complex speed penalty remains the same. Oops.
I thought you were changing the penalty to 6%?
But anyway, this doesn't surprise me - I don't use complex plates in the first place :)
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.06.07 05:57:00 -
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Whoever said people don't use complex plates is an idiot. I know a guy who kills 50 people in every battle and he used to be assault but with the cloak he went Gal Scout and basically runs around like an armor tanked assault killing everyone with remotes.
Seriously why do you think people are complaining about 700 HP scouts they WOULDNT HAVE THAT WITHOUT COMPLEX PLATES get real people.
And if you're a medium suit and don't use complex plates you're either a Minmatar, Caldari or an IDIOT.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
5904
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Posted - 2014.06.07 06:47:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Whoever said people don't use complex plates is an idiot. I know a guy who kills 50 people in every battle and he used to be assault but with the cloak he went Gal Scout and basically runs around like an armor tanked assault killing everyone with remotes.
Seriously why do you think people are complaining about 700 HP scouts they WOULDNT HAVE THAT WITHOUT COMPLEX PLATES get real people.
And if you're a medium suit and don't use complex plates you're either a Minmatar, Caldari or an IDIOT. Don't use exaggerations.
The only time I and other killers can get that much constantly is in a vehicle against constant waves of idiots.....
Wait, nevermind. It's entirely possible then.
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the saddest are these,
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.06.07 08:03:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Whoever said people don't use complex plates is an idiot. I know a guy who kills 50 people in every battle and he used to be assault but with the cloak he went Gal Scout and basically runs around like an armor tanked assault killing everyone with remotes.
Seriously why do you think people are complaining about 700 HP scouts they WOULDNT HAVE THAT WITHOUT COMPLEX PLATES get real people.
And if you're a medium suit and don't use complex plates you're either a Minmatar, Caldari or an IDIOT. Don't use exaggerations. The only time I and other killers can get that much constantly is in a vehicle against constant waves of idiots..... Wait, nevermind. It's entirely possible then.
i was going to start yellihg at you then i read the last sentence lol
effective troll is effective
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
1073
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Posted - 2014.06.07 10:27:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Whoever said people don't use complex plates is an idiot. I know a guy who kills 50 people in every battle and he used to be assault but with the cloak he went Gal Scout and basically runs around like an armor tanked assault killing everyone with remotes.
Seriously why do you think people are complaining about 700 HP scouts they WOULDNT HAVE THAT WITHOUT COMPLEX PLATES get real people.
And if you're a medium suit and don't use complex plates you're either a Minmatar, Caldari or an IDIOT.
No, it's most people don't use complex plates, not "no one uses complex".
Armor plates reduce normal speed, sprint speed, jump height and turning speeds.
Some scout scrubs, arguably gallente as the majority, will use complex plates to make up for their lack of gun game. To others, the larger penalties to absolutely necessary in game advantages aren't worth the mediocre amount of increased armor.
Sentinels are a bit of an odd fish now with the addition of the racial suits. Though normally you will still see an Amarr using at least one complex since they are fat and slow already, and thus used to it. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
14175
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Posted - 2014.06.07 10:46:00 -
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People use complex plates?
Enhanced are the gold standard, now more than ever.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:09:00 -
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So basically what you're saying is CCP is listening to a bunch of "forum warrior" biased crap.
If you guys REALLY knew how to tell them what to do, you'd have told them:
- Caldari scout is still OP as ****, it's actually even worse thanks CCP
- Fix the "rail tank range nerf" that didn't really work, you can still hit anything at any range, the targeting reticule just doesn't light up red, thus making Forge Gunning a *****
- Buff the goddamn Tactical Assault Rifle MORE this isn't enough
- Swarm launcher needs a serious change, like being a sidearm
- The fastest scout Min can't even fit all the biotics mods without getting scanned
- Give the FRIENDLY REDLINE A COUNTDOWN
Much more than this that's WAY more important than "omg scouts abuse armor plates" like ugh, my heavy TEARS THROUGH THEM LIKE NOTHING. WHO CARES
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
1073
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:44:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:So basically what you're saying is CCP is listening to a bunch of "forum warrior" biased crap. If you guys REALLY knew how to tell them what to do, you'd have told them:
- Caldari scout is still OP as ****, it's actually even worse thanks CCP
- Fix the "rail tank range nerf" that didn't really work, you can still hit anything at any range, the targeting reticule just doesn't light up red, thus making Forge Gunning a *****
- Buff the goddamn Tactical Assault Rifle MORE this isn't enough
- Swarm launcher needs a serious change, like being a sidearm
- The fastest scout Min can't even fit all the biotics mods without getting scanned
- Give the FRIENDLY REDLINE A COUNTDOWN
Much more than this that's WAY more important than "omg scouts abuse armor plates" like ugh, my heavy TEARS THROUGH THEM LIKE NOTHING. WHO CARES
Basically I'm saying you are complaining about something you personally disliked, without even understanding what the problem was to begin with.
Then when you found out you were wrong, made another post complaining about everyone else on the forums and made a list of either horseshit (railgun turret range is indeed 300 meters, yes the bullet can hit but it will do zero damage) or things the very forum goers have been complaining for months (swarm launcher). Not to mention that the swarm launcher IS getting looked at for change.
Leave the dusting to the actual players. You are seriously misinformed about the game and have ludicrous ideas (i.e. redline change). |
Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:51:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Then when you found out you were wrong, made another post complaining about everyone else on the forums and made a list of either horseshit (railgun turret range is indeed 300 meters, yes the bullet can hit but it will do zero damage)
TELL THAT TO ALL THE PROTO FORGE FITS I'VE LOST TO IT, **** HEAD.
That's it. I'm putting this in feedback discussion. This needs to be looked at by Rattati.
You don't even Dust if you don't realize I've been rail sniped from on top of that domination with the tower that you've gotta fly up on and put uplinks. That's like ******* 1000 meters bro.
My thoughts on Hotfix Alpha: First I noticed a scout running from my AR. Then a heavy. Then a COMBAT RIFLE USER. CCP +1
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
1073
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:55:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Then when you found out you were wrong, made another post complaining about everyone else on the forums and made a list of either horseshit (railgun turret range is indeed 300 meters, yes the bullet can hit but it will do zero damage) TELL THAT TO ALL THE PROTO FORGE FITS I'VE LOST TO IT, **** HEAD. That's it. I'm putting this in feedback discussion. This needs to be looked at by Rattati. You don't even Dust if you don't realize I've been rail sniped from on top of that domination with the tower that you've gotta fly up on and put uplinks. That's like ******* 1000 meters bro.
I've lost far more proto fits then you, I'm sure.
Never died to any weapon in the game at 1k meters.
Seriously misinformed and prone to exaggeration. Not ideal for having discussions with. |
Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:57:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Then when you found out you were wrong, made another post complaining about everyone else on the forums and made a list of either horseshit (railgun turret range is indeed 300 meters, yes the bullet can hit but it will do zero damage) TELL THAT TO ALL THE PROTO FORGE FITS I'VE LOST TO IT, **** HEAD. That's it. I'm putting this in feedback discussion. This needs to be looked at by Rattati. You don't even Dust if you don't realize I've been rail sniped from on top of that domination with the tower that you've gotta fly up on and put uplinks. That's like ******* 1000 meters bro. I've lost far more proto fits then you, I'm sure. Never died to any weapon in the game at 1k meters. Seriously misinformed and prone to exaggeration. Not ideal for having discussions with.
Do I have to ******* record a video, *******? It happens. It's a glitch or something and it happens.
My thoughts on Hotfix Alpha: First I noticed a scout running from my AR. Then a heavy. Then a COMBAT RIFLE USER. CCP +1
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
816
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Posted - 2014.06.07 12:06:00 -
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I urge everyone to fit what ever the hell they want to and anyone who says different - be dammed!
Go and make creative crazy new fits, go try out the current meta. Do what ever you like! The more people experiment the more fun the game becomes. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3415
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Posted - 2014.06.07 12:13:00 -
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Wow, OP is an idiot.
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.06.07 12:20:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Wow, OP is an idiot.
And you've always been the most intelligent person I've seen on the forums.
No seriously why are you assholes fighting me about this? It does happen. I'm not ******* lying.
My thoughts on Hotfix Alpha: First I noticed a scout running from my AR. Then a heavy. Then a COMBAT RIFLE USER. CCP +1
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