Most of the replies are of the "get gud" variety and completely fail to recognize the problem, the regenerative ability of the tank armor. It is not insurmountable, but there were several people hitting that tank and whether they played it perfectly or not the tanker certainly was not displaying superior skill. This was a case of the equipment of one player overcoming the efforts of several other players of roughly equal skill. This is a problem, the fact that the forum warriors can destroy tanks easily, (and the claims far exceed what I have ever observed) is not the issue.

Except the results in the video are easily repeatable, and the existing evidence is anecdotal as well.

So a bunch of publords throwing their AV around not only in a poor, disorganized way but at a tank that specifically and only counters infantry AV (as well as blasters), is proof of... what exactly?

A tank that is fitted to hard counter infantry AV is doing its job. It'll die in 4 seconds to a rail or a missile tank though. You can even solo it with three remotes, or 2 synced forge gunners.

On another note, I honestly think that they should replace these passive armour reppers with active ones (and maybe boost them by 25%) and then reintroduce a nerfed set of passive armour reps. CCP was horribly wrong when they said that taking away all the modules was a good idea; now tanking is so minimalist (especially if youre a ****** with a lot of money to waste) that you could practically play with one hand.

The only reason tanking was any challenge before was because we had to micro modules and be aware of the enemy AV presence on the field. Now we have 1 or 2 active modules and less potent AV. This system is idiot proof, but also prevents anyone from going above the skill level of an idiot when playing the current tanking model. There needs to be more opportunities for tank drivers to make mistakes and have factors working against them.

So with that said I think that if people want the high repping power they have now, they should be forced to activate more modules in return. There needs to be more dynamics in vehicles combat, because now its bone dry as far as gameplay goes.

You might be able to destroy these but it's because of a good squad mate; because you know what you have to do. Random people in a random match have no chance as seen clearly in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceM11KVu-Hg
I mastered enough forgegun skills.
But, tank passive armor repair modules does not budge an attack of other players, including me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceM11KVu-Hg
I mastered enough forgegun skills.
But, tank passive armor repair modules does not budge an attack of other players, including me.

Shot number 2 missed, and when you had clear shots at the sweet spot you didn't take them.

Also, that isn't a problem with the rep modules, because as you can clearly see he was hardened and repping. If he had been just rep, that would have probably been enough firepower to push him off.

Ambush is a scrub mode, so never be surprised to find cowards there.

bumping it up because this game is pathetic.

blaster tanks are destroying the game CCP and you know it.

Blue tag? care to admit anything about the video?

I'm amazed at all of the anecdotes being presented in an attempt to refute video evidence.

Most of the replies are of the "get gud" variety and completely fail to recognize the problem, the regenerative ability of the tank armor. It is not insurmountable, but there were several people hitting that tank and whether they played it perfectly or not the tanker certainly was not displaying superior skill. This was a case of the equipment of one player overcoming the efforts of several other players of roughly equal skill. This is a problem, the fact that the forum warriors can destroy tanks easily, (and the claims far exceed what I have ever observed) is not the issue.

Most of the replies I'm reading suggest actual tactics for taking out rep Maddies, so I have to disagree.

Most of the folks in this thread that are of the mind that rep Maddies are OP are insisting on infantry solutions, which actually work when the AV player is skilled with their weapons or baiting/psychological warfare, especially in a group situation.

And I don't think it's relevant comparing the skill of AV infantry to that of anti-infantry tankers--they're engaged in two completely separate activities. The first is trying to kill a tank, the second is killing infantry. Compare the anti-AV tanker to the rail tanker that sneaks up on him--can he escape or defend himself? Compare the AV infantry to the squad trying to suppress them--are they able to hold back the enemy infantry and maintain a focus on the tank?

They're the easiest for my rail

What? Me and my buddy kill rep maddies all the time, just the 2 of us. Forge/ minmando swarms. Maybe I Should watch this video lol.

Edit: I see the problem lol, not timing your shots to hit continuously, plus that regular forge is garbage.

I do, and he is.

If OP wasn't using the worst FG, was in a good position, and had actual competent support it would have been a breeze.

This is not to say that the reppers are not excessive, they are. But not by a lot.

I have reasonable luck, even against multiple AVers, (although you can't tell their tier with forges, but I know there are often PRO swarms) even with a dual rep Soma with MLT mods. It was actually that success that goaded me to skilling into armour, so that I could add it to my Gunnlogi. Any AV weapon deals 200 DPS. That I could consistently survive (I would run stupid profits of 2-3x the cost of my full-MLT tank) says nothing about DPS, but everything about relative player skill.

OP's argument is just as anecdotal as everyone else's. If his video was as indepth as, say, Ghazbaran's video of him soloing tanks in Ambush, what with its dozen or so sets of footage, it might be some kind of valid. As it is, OP's video shows only that his FG tactics are poor, his fitting was subpar, and his support was worthless.



For what it's worth, I've recently gone toe-to-toe with groups of three AVers in my Gunnlogi; there might have been three of them but they didn't co-ordinate, they didn't plan and they executed exceedingly poorly. OP has a video showing his monstrous accuracy against infantry with a forge, so clearly he's competent enough, but most AVers aren't, and that is indisputable.

LOL I just watched the video. First shot took off only the 1200 shield. I made sure to watch the armor. It didn't go down at all from the first shot. You're using a STD forge.

Please, just go away. You're making the rest of your countrymen look bad. I know what the Japanese are like when they game, and you're not it.