DUST Search - Problem of tank passive armor repair modules ( Video )

Atiim wrote:

Reign Omega wrote:

but it's medium mode and definitely possible.

"Medium Mode" would imply that:

A player can attempt this with reasonable expectations of success
The difficulty is equal on both sides
Both the Aggressor and Defender are at an equal advantage/disadvantage.

The fact that destroying one requires [according to your statement]:

Specialized Layout
Proper Positioning
Fully concentrated fire (not missing a single shot)

While Piloting that HAV fitting requires:

"Specialized" Layout

You cannot claim the second point to be true; meaning that piloting the vehicle is "Easy Mode", which equates to an imbalance.and not "medium mode".

The fact that you have to utilize tactics and positioning, while the HAV pilot [virtually] does not have to utilize anything in terms of tactics means that that you cannot claim the third point either, which means that is indeed not "medium mode".

There are some further problems with your assertion, which I shall break down here:

Stating that they die easily to Railguns and Missile Turrets is irrelevant, as it is circular. Unless of course, you believe that AVers dieing to Infantry was a valid point of balance pre Uprising 1.7.
Jihad Jeeps can be countered by simply aiming in the general direction of the LAV., making them an ineffective counter against players with an attention span greater than that of a 5 year old child

It should also be noted that your critiques is not credible, as it is not possible for you to know his fitting layout. Positioning is irrelevant as he still landed all of his shots, which is what effects whether or not the out-come of the engagement favors the AVer. Another point that isn't credible is your assertion on having "no real help" considering how the other FG user landed all of his shots properly.


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Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 432	Posted - 2014.06.04 13:45:00 - [1] - Quote What? Me and my buddy kill rep maddies all the time, just the 2 of us. Forge/ minmando swarms. Maybe I Should watch this video lol. Edit: I see the problem lol, not timing your shots to hit continuously, plus that regular forge is garbage. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 436	Posted - 2014.06.05 01:55:00 - [2] - Quote Atiim wrote: I'm amazed at all of the anecdotes being presented in an attempt to refute video evidence. All I saw in the video prompted my short amusing story about a real life event. I know it may not be "average Joe" friendly but I pop these asshat rep tankers every single day. I have a friend I run AV with, and as soon as they show up we put them down. He was using the wrong layout, bad positioning, and didn't have real help. The rep tank is laid out specifically to tank sustained low-med dps at long intervals. It's paper thin to missiles, rails, proper AV tactics and even jihadists. So sad that solo AV action Johnny couldn't kill him, but from the video..he was doing it wrong. You can not let a repper breath, you either have to outright alpha crush him or sustain constant dps exceeding the rep threshold. It's not easy mode, but it's medium mode and definitely possible. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 436	Posted - 2014.06.05 02:05:00 - [3] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: IAFG hit the weak spot sync shots and... don't miss. Nothing like spazzing and missing that last round Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 436	Posted - 2014.06.05 05:39:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: Reign Omega wrote: but it's medium mode and definitely possible. "Medium Mode" would imply that: A player can attempt this with reasonable expectations of success The difficulty is equal on both sides Both the Aggressor and Defender are at an equal advantage/disadvantage. The fact that destroying one requires [according to your statement]: Specialized Layout Proper Positioning Fully concentrated fire (not missing a single shot) While Piloting that HAV fitting requires: "Specialized" Layout You cannot claim the second point to be true; meaning that piloting the vehicle is "Easy Mode", which equates to an imbalance.and not "medium mode". The fact that you have to utilize tactics and positioning, while the HAV pilot [virtually] does not have to utilize anything in terms of tactics means that that you cannot claim the third point either, which means that is indeed not "medium mode". There are some further problems with your assertion, which I shall break down here: Stating that they die easily to Railguns and Missile Turrets is irrelevant, as it is circular. Unless of course, you believe that AVers dieing to Infantry was a valid point of balance pre Uprising 1.7. Jihad Jeeps can be countered by simply aiming in the general direction of the LAV., making them an ineffective counter against players with an attention span greater than that of a 5 year old child It should also be noted that your critiques is not credible, as it is not possible for you to know his fitting layout. Positioning is irrelevant as he still landed all of his shots, which is what effects whether or not the out-come of the engagement favors the AVer. Another point that isn't credible is your assertion on having "no real help" considering how the other FG user landed all of his shots properly. I had typed a response, and the forum didn't save it. In a nutshell I said, medium mode meaning not hard or impossible. I never argued the balance, or the skill required to run a rep blaster. I simply stated I saw a trio of guys lobbing half hearted shots at a tank fitted to sustain that engagement. Either crush him with alpha, or grind him down. It's very doable, and doesn't suffer from any more problems than running AV normally. Just be aware of of your location and fight smart. Adios. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 437	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:16:00 - [5] - Quote Also, there are numerous things groups of average Joe's can't do on the ground, you can maul groups with a shotty scout, chew them up with a heavy, remote explode "Smith party of 6?". Not speaking specifically about this video, but about the tank problem in pubs. Pubs are full of...for lack of a better word, dickweeds. Either clueless, afk farming, or just plain sorry. You can't expect intuitive play from random players even half the time. Yes, even at a comparable investment level...some people just. Plain. Suck. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.