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Reiki Jubo wrote:

Godin Thekiller wrote:

Reiki Jubo wrote:

Godin Thekiller wrote:

PS2 is dying.................

EDIT: Also,

1: elite players complain about the battles not meaning anything

2: teamspeak exists sadly, so prox chat is useless.

3: a lot of other games have training rooms and Prone. Your point?

1. i have heard that, hopefully they add more persistence since thats kind of where gaming is going anyway.

2. console players wont use ts, chat will be in the game client and use a headset.

3. my point is dust does not have them and not including basic features like this gets ur game ignored.

1: They don't seem to be, so it's just going to die like PS did

2: They do it now; wtf are you talking about?

3: You said those make PS2 great, when they are basic features.......... your argument made no sense, and it still doesn't...........

it looks like u have a problem with basic comprehension (reading) so i'll humor u one last time. dont be silly, do you use TS on dust? ur "console players use ts more than the game client" claim is flat out wrong. PS2 is much further along than dust/legion in regards to being a great MMOFPS so its what i'm going to play until CCP gets their head out of their ass. if they never do? i'll never come back. simple.

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Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 442	Posted - 2014.06.01 12:41:00 - [1] - Quote All in Planetside 2. This is how you attract elite level FPS players. I get trying to redo the bad parts of FPS but these aren't them. PS2 leads the MMOFPS pack for a reason, CCP get on board or get left behind. AGAIN.
Dusters Blog Galactic News Network 741	Posted - 2014.06.01 12:48:00 - [2] - Quote Add always on Friendly Fire to that...no real tactical game can do without it. If a casual game like PS2 knows how important FF is, well........ Stay tuned for the largest community project ever! The Legion Whiteboard. Email us here: [email protected]
Tyjus Vacca Valor Coalition Red Whines. 242	Posted - 2014.06.01 13:11:00 - [3] - Quote PS2 has moving compass too. so commandos are good now O_o
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2499	Posted - 2014.06.01 16:12:00 - [4] - Quote PS2 is dying................. EDIT: Also, 1: elite players complain about the battles not meaning anything 2: teamspeak exists sadly, so prox chat is useless. 3: a lot of other games have training rooms and Prone. Your point? click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 443	Posted - 2014.06.01 16:19:00 - [5] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: PS2 is dying................. I doubt that, but with F2P on PS4 it will be fine.
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2499	Posted - 2014.06.01 16:31:00 - [6] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: PS2 is dying................. I doubt that, but with F2P on PS4 it will be fine. It is on PC, as nothing's going on with it. It's also a ******* mess. If Legion is anywhere near where it's supposed to be, people will might leave for it. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Dusters Blog Galactic News Network 745	Posted - 2014.06.01 17:22:00 - [7] - Quote we arent trying to stir up revolt, but many are excited about PS2 with good reason. it even has the jet class and troop carriers in addition to one-man three wheelers to get around with...with just a touch of persistence with territory and resource pts. the best gaming advice we have received was from Hayden Dingman from PC Gamer regarding the bait & switch that goes on so much in the industry: 'Play a game when it has the features you want, not because it might one day have those features.' our blog will switch over to PS2 a month before the release and may return to Legion provided its worthy. its obvious CCP has lots of work to do. Stay tuned for the largest community project ever! The Legion Whiteboard. Email us here: [email protected]
God Hates Lags The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 1212	Posted - 2014.06.01 17:48:00 - [8] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: PS2 is dying................. EDIT: Also, 1: elite players complain about the battles not meaning anything 2: teamspeak exists sadly, so prox chat is useless. 3: a lot of other games have training rooms and Prone. Your point? PS2 isn't dying because it has prox chat, huge battles, and teamspeak. It's dying because battles don't mean anything. And I would say that Legion will have meaningful battles in spades if CCP Z's presentation hadn't happened. Wouldn't teamspeak just get cluttered with random garbage? I have a hard time listening to teamspeak in a sixteen man pub. I can't imagine it with more people. Prox chat would be useful for calling out to Logis and such. "Look what I destroyed in two days" Kane Spero Wolfica stole my signature
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8729	Posted - 2014.06.01 17:54:00 - [9] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: PS2 is dying................. EDIT: Also, 1: elite players complain about the battles not meaning anything 2: teamspeak exists sadly, so prox chat is useless. 3: a lot of other games have training rooms and Prone. Your point? http://youtu.be/Vh_nBeP80ac Pretty much this. This video seems like a very clear indication on what's wrong with PS2. If anything, the problems that PS2 is experiencing right now look very familiar. It's as if Dust's problems have somehow translated over to PS2. Funny. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 444	Posted - 2014.06.01 17:57:00 - [10] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: PS2 is dying................. EDIT: Also, 1: elite players complain about the battles not meaning anything 2: teamspeak exists sadly, so prox chat is useless. 3: a lot of other games have training rooms and Prone. Your point? 1. i have heard that, hopefully they add more persistence since thats kind of where gaming is going anyway. 2. console players wont use ts, chat will be in the game client and use a headset. 3. my point is dust does not have them and not including basic features like this gets ur game ignored.

Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2500	Posted - 2014.06.01 18:04:00 - [11] - Quote God Hates Lags wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: PS2 is dying................. EDIT: Also, 1: elite players complain about the battles not meaning anything 2: teamspeak exists sadly, so prox chat is useless. 3: a lot of other games have training rooms and Prone. Your point? PS2 isn't dying because it has prox chat, huge battles, and teamspeak. It's dying because battles don't mean anything. And I would say that Legion will have meaningful battles in spades if CCP Z's presentation hadn't happened. Wouldn't teamspeak just get cluttered with random garbage? I have a hard time listening to teamspeak in a sixteen man pub. I can't imagine it with more people. Prox chat would be useful for calling out to Logis and such. Can you even read? I SAID THAT IN THE GODDAMN POST And I've been in a 50 man teamspeak chat. No, it wouldn't. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2500	Posted - 2014.06.01 18:06:00 - [12] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: PS2 is dying................. EDIT: Also, 1: elite players complain about the battles not meaning anything 2: teamspeak exists sadly, so prox chat is useless. 3: a lot of other games have training rooms and Prone. Your point? 1. i have heard that, hopefully they add more persistence since thats kind of where gaming is going anyway. 2. console players wont use ts, chat will be in the game client and use a headset. 3. my point is dust does not have them and not including basic features like this gets ur game ignored. 1: They don't seem to be, so it's just going to die like PS did 2: They do it now; wtf are you talking about? 3: You said those make PS2 great, when they are basic features.......... your argument made no sense, and it still doesn't........... click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8729	Posted - 2014.06.01 18:08:00 - [13] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: PS2 is dying................. EDIT: Also, 1: elite players complain about the battles not meaning anything 2: teamspeak exists sadly, so prox chat is useless. 3: a lot of other games have training rooms and Prone. Your point? 1. i have heard that, hopefully they add more persistence since thats kind of where gaming is going anyway. 2. console players wont use ts, chat will be in the game client and use a headset. 3. my point is dust does not have them and not including basic features like this gets ur game ignored. 1. I don't play PS2, but if they can do that, good for them. 2. The use of TS is not exclusive to PC. Console users, or at least those with an Android phone or a computer nearby, can use it as well to their advantage. The only thing that TS can't do is proximity chat and that's it. Beyond that, it's a tool that trumps all means of communication due to its flexibility. 3. Good point. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 444	Posted - 2014.06.01 18:11:00 - [14] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: PS2 is dying................. EDIT: Also, 1: elite players complain about the battles not meaning anything 2: teamspeak exists sadly, so prox chat is useless. 3: a lot of other games have training rooms and Prone. Your point? 1. i have heard that, hopefully they add more persistence since thats kind of where gaming is going anyway. 2. console players wont use ts, chat will be in the game client and use a headset. 3. my point is dust does not have them and not including basic features like this gets ur game ignored. 1: They don't seem to be, so it's just going to die like PS did 2: They do it now; wtf are you talking about? 3: You said those make PS2 great, when they are basic features.......... your argument made no sense, and it still doesn't........... it looks like u have a problem with basic comprehension (reading) so i'll humor u one last time. dont be silly, do you use TS on dust? ur "console players use ts more than the game client" claim is flat out wrong. PS2 is much further along than dust/legion in regards to being a great MMOFPS so its what i'm going to play until CCP gets their head out of their ass. if they never do? i'll never come back. simple.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3561	Posted - 2014.06.01 18:31:00 - [15] - Quote Tyjus Vacca wrote: PS2 has moving compass too. CCP MC Peanut has been working on a moving compass prototype. Look at the top of the screen. It looks promising. Right now it only has the azimuth number, but he intends to add the letters for North, South, East, and West. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2504	Posted - 2014.06.02 01:32:00 - [16] - Quote Reiki Jubo wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Reiki Jubo wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: PS2 is dying................. EDIT: Also, 1: elite players complain about the battles not meaning anything 2: teamspeak exists sadly, so prox chat is useless. 3: a lot of other games have training rooms and Prone. Your point? 1. i have heard that, hopefully they add more persistence since thats kind of where gaming is going anyway. 2. console players wont use ts, chat will be in the game client and use a headset. 3. my point is dust does not have them and not including basic features like this gets ur game ignored. 1: They don't seem to be, so it's just going to die like PS did 2: They do it now; wtf are you talking about? 3: You said those make PS2 great, when they are basic features.......... your argument made no sense, and it still doesn't........... it looks like u have a problem with basic comprehension (reading) so i'll humor u one last time. dont be silly, do you use TS on dust? ur "console players use ts more than the game client" claim is flat out wrong. PS2 is much further along than dust/legion in regards to being a great MMOFPS so its what i'm going to play until CCP gets their head out of their ass. if they never do? i'll never come back. simple. 1: I have, yes. I've done it for a lot of console games. Your point? 2: no, I didn't say that, I said that people do use it. Your own insult just turned on you it seems. 3: No, it's not. It's not even a good MMOFPS. Yes, it has basic things that every game should have (because sadly figuring stuff out on your own doesn't cut it anymore), but as far as it being a good game is just no. It's as bad as dust, and the only thing keeping it going is noobs who thinks otherwise. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Dusters Blog Galactic News Network 746	Posted - 2014.06.02 02:57:00 - [17] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Tyjus Vacca wrote: PS2 has moving compass too. CCP MC Peanut has been working on a moving compass prototype. Look at the top of the screen. It looks promising. Right now it only has the azimuth number, but he intends to add the letters for North, South, East, and West. really? its small but its a start, any other common sense features they adding u know of? Stay tuned for the largest community project ever! The Legion Whiteboard. Email us here: [email protected]
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8731	Posted - 2014.06.02 03:33:00 - [18] - Quote Dusters Blog wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Tyjus Vacca wrote: PS2 has moving compass too. CCP MC Peanut has been working on a moving compass prototype. Look at the top of the screen. It looks promising. Right now it only has the azimuth number, but he intends to add the letters for North, South, East, and West. really? its small but its a start, any other common sense features they adding u know of? They're moving from a 2D HUD to a 3D HUD. Apparently according to CCP MC Peanut the 3D HUD seems to help with code optimization compared to a 2D HUD. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

CCP MC Peanut C C P C C P Alliance 437	Posted - 2014.06.02 04:37:00 - [19] - Quote Dusters Blog wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Tyjus Vacca wrote: PS2 has moving compass too. CCP MC Peanut has been working on a moving compass prototype. Look at the top of the screen. It looks promising. Right now it only has the azimuth number, but he intends to add the letters for North, South, East, and West. really? its small but its a start, any other common sense features they adding u know of? We've added a new HUD system that allows us to more easily, on the content side, add things like a 'compass' without the direct support of Engineers. There was a great discussion on this in another thread and there were a lot of cool ideas that I've passed onto the team. Feel free to pose your own specific ideas/requests and I'll try my best to explain how it could/could not be done. I can't make any promises that it will be done. But I can say we've already had lots of feedback that has made us re-think things.

SponkSponkSponk The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 857	Posted - 2014.06.02 04:58:00 - [20] - Quote CCP MC Peanut wrote: I can't make any promises that it will be done. But I can say we've already had lots of feedback that has made us re-think things. I'm of the opinion that Legion should steal the best ideas from other games, which leaves more time to put in the stuff that other games haven't thought of. Dust/Eve transfers

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8733	Posted - 2014.06.02 05:24:00 - [21] - Quote SponkSponkSponk wrote: CCP MC Peanut wrote: I can't make any promises that it will be done. But I can say we've already had lots of feedback that has made us re-think things. I'm of the opinion that Legion should steal the best ideas from other games, which leaves more time to put in the stuff that other games haven't thought of. Just as long as we don't copy from CoD. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2507	Posted - 2014.06.02 05:50:00 - [22] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: SponkSponkSponk wrote: CCP MC Peanut wrote: I can't make any promises that it will be done. But I can say we've already had lots of feedback that has made us re-think things. I'm of the opinion that Legion should steal the best ideas from other games, which leaves more time to put in the stuff that other games haven't thought of. Just as long as we don't copy from CoD. But that would mean that the lobby shooter aspect of legion would need to go. But apparently that's a no no click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Dusters Blog Galactic News Network 747	Posted - 2014.06.02 10:32:00 - [23] - Quote CCP MC Peanut wrote: Dusters Blog wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Tyjus Vacca wrote: PS2 has moving compass too. CCP MC Peanut has been working on a moving compass prototype. Look at the top of the screen. It looks promising. Right now it only has the azimuth number, but he intends to add the letters for North, South, East, and West. really? its small but its a start, any other common sense features they adding u know of? We've added a new HUD system that allows us to more easily, on the content side, add things like a 'compass' without the direct support of Engineers. There was a great discussion on this in another thread and there were a lot of cool ideas that I've passed onto the team. Feel free to pose your own specific ideas/requests and I'll try my best to explain how it could/could not be done. I can't make any promises that it will be done. But I can say we've already had lots of feedback that has made us re-think things. what about the features the OP started with? Prox Chat, Massive battles, VR Training, Prone and Friendly Fire? Stay tuned for the largest community project ever! The Legion Whiteboard. Email us here: [email protected]

CCP MC Peanut C C P C C P Alliance 438	Posted - 2014.06.02 11:57:00 - [24] - Quote Dusters Blog wrote: what about the features the OP started with? Prox Chat, Massive battles, VR Training, Prone and Friendly Fire? Sure, I can give them a stab Prox Chat The Prox Chat system itself is out of the scope of my ability to discuss. I can say that if there is a Prox Chat system, we would probably be able to notify who is chatting with a 3D Icon state. And if we gave you the ability to mute people, we could probably use it to show they are both muted, but trying to say something. If we implement this 3D Icon system right (we are in progress with that), we should do it in a way that we can have visual states that can overlap--meaning we don't need to create a visual permutation for every combination of things (muted + talking for example). Of course there is a simpler way to handle this--just have multiple 3D Icons in the same spot. Massive Battles Massive Battles is more a design and performance thing--not something I can speak about. But if we increased the number of players on the battlefield, we would need to look at the interface elements and make sure they are still use-able. VR Training Currently, I think it should be possible to create a training level where a player has access to practice on all items and equipment--I can't really speak on why or why not, though. What I can say is that since we've moved the UI to 3D it would be easier to create custom training tips and tutorials since the UI can be easily edited with client side visual scripting (Kismet). In the Menus thread there was a request for tooltips--I don't see a reason why we can't do 3d Tooltips on things. The limitation would be we need some attachment point that is persistent across the item type (such as the Muzzle for a weapon--which includes an attachment point). Prone and Friendly Fire These are both possible but are in the realm of the gameplay people.

Dusters Blog Galactic News Network 748	Posted - 2014.06.02 12:20:00 - [25] - Quote o7 McPeanut, thank you. just want to go on the record about how essential all those features are, the hardcore community has consistently asked for them to be implemented. With the move to PC many of the immature types are no longer in the playerbase. probably be a good idea to dance with who brought you. Stay tuned for the largest community project ever! The Legion Whiteboard. Email us here: [email protected]
m621 zma Seraphim Initiative.. 135	Posted - 2014.06.03 00:20:00 - [26] - Quote CCP MC Peanut wrote: Prone and Friendly Fire These are both possible but are in the realm of the gameplay people. Hopefully they'll leave Prone out of it? I've never felt any FPS multiplayer game has been improved by the ability for someone to be able to lie down and shoot from behind a box
m621 zma Seraphim Initiative.. 135	Posted - 2014.06.03 00:25:00 - [27] - Quote Dusters Blog wrote: what about the features the OP started with? Prone Dusters Blog wrote: just want to go on the record about how essential all those features are, the hardcore community has consistently asked for them to be implemented. LOL? Point me to a thread where the 'hardcore' community has asked for prone?? Prone isn't a hardcore feature It's a bad mechanic for camping pussies and COD kids
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8736	Posted - 2014.06.03 00:25:00 - [28] - Quote m621 zma wrote: CCP MC Peanut wrote: Prone and Friendly Fire These are both possible but are in the realm of the gameplay people. Hopefully they'll leave Prone out of it? I've never felt any FPS multiplayer game has been improved by the ability for someone to be able to lie down and shoot from behind a box I've never understood why anyone doesn't want to see anyone go prone in a first-person shooter. I remember back when Ghost Recon was still a thing on the PC and nobody complained about it allowing prone. EDIT: Oh yeah, and Delta Force iirc. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8736	Posted - 2014.06.03 00:29:00 - [29] - Quote m621 zma wrote: Dusters Blog wrote: what about the features the OP started with? Prone Dusters Blog wrote: just want to go on the record about how essential all those features are, the hardcore community has consistently asked for them to be implemented. LOL? Point me to a thread where the 'hardcore' community has asked for prone?? Prone isn't a hardcore feature It's a bad mechanic for camping pussies and COD kids I'm a hardcore player and I like to be able to prone. Hint: I'm not a sniper. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 417	Posted - 2014.06.03 02:42:00 - [30] - Quote not a sniper either and prone is essential. I use it to hide behind cover when outnumbered or if tanks roll by. if u make the getting down and rising animation slow dropshotting = useless and it cant be used in combat.



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