DUST Search - meaningful transfer

All Channels

General Discussions

meaningful transfer

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2014.05.31 06:34:00 - [1] - Quote of our dust mercs to legion... by meaningful I mean all my isk, all my sp, my stats, my assets (or the isk equivalent for isk items and the AUR equivalent for AUR items) and our bpo's... as far as the blue prints go, if legion is gonna be the eve connected game you have promised us, then they should work just like eve BPO's. if a bpo item no longer exists in legion we should get a bpo of the closest thing resembling it in dust. these bpo's should either be exclusive (meaning no one else can get them ever) or they should be incredibly expensive and they should be tradable either way. if they can not work like eve bpo's then they should still be in some way unique items we get to keep with some sort of slight advantage and are still NOT consumable. or give us the option of cash or plex for them. I don't think isk should be a problem if eve and legion will have a connected market.... even if the markets are not connected at first, the amount of people who have a lot of isk is such a tiny number compared to how many people should be playing legion that they wont be able to have a serious long term impact on the games economy, and you can always create sinks and faucets to alleviate the isk deficit in new players. I don't see any reason why all of our sp shouldn't transfer. we put a lot of time into it, just like an eve pilot....even if you change how sp is gained, or the value of that sp, there isn't any reason why you can't make those changes with the mindset to include our investment.... in other words there is always more than one way to complete a task... if the way you are working on doesn't keep our time and investment in mind, then it's not the best way to complete the task and you need to find a better way. I know a lot of people have given you great ways to do this. dont make the same mistakes by ignoring us again.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 67	Posted - 2014.06.01 15:57:00 - [2] - Quote I honestly cant believe you all would settle for less.... unless you either never spent a dime, or like to throw money away....
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2007	Posted - 2014.06.01 21:10:00 - [3] - Quote IMHO, only things that should carry over are our names, AUR (and AUR Items) and SP. All of the Isk and Isk items should be burnt and forgotten. There would've never been such a drastic disparity had CCP actually thought PC through a little more. What about the ones who wisely managed their wallets you ask? They wisely managed their wallets in Dust, they can do the same in Legion. Minmatar Weapons Specialist Explosives Connoisseur Logi for Hire
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 68	Posted - 2014.06.01 21:20:00 - [4] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: IMHO, only things that should carry over are our names, AUR (and AUR Items) and SP. All of the Isk and Isk items should be burnt and forgotten. There would've never been such a drastic disparity had CCP actually thought PC through a little more. What about the ones who wisely managed their wallets you ask? They wisely managed their wallets in Dust, they can do the same in Legion. the amount of dust players who have way to much isk and sp is such a small number compared to how many will be playing legion... and out of that small number some wont even play legion. and lets not forget, if eve is connected to legion then eve isk will flood legion anyway, so why shouldn't we keep our isk? as far as sp goes, you want aur items to cross over... well what about sp garnered through boosters from aur? not to mention this was a serious time investment to get that sp, why shouldn't that investment be honored?
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2008	Posted - 2014.06.01 22:47:00 - [5] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: IMHO, only things that should carry over are our names, AUR (and AUR Items) and SP. All of the Isk and Isk items should be burnt and forgotten. There would've never been such a drastic disparity had CCP actually thought PC through a little more. What about the ones who wisely managed their wallets you ask? They wisely managed their wallets in Dust, they can do the same in Legion. the amount of dust players who have way to much isk and sp is such a small number compared to how many will be playing legion... and out of that small number some wont even play legion. and lets not forget, if eve is connected to legion then eve isk will flood legion anyway, so why shouldn't we keep our isk? as far as sp goes, you want aur items to cross over... well what about sp garnered through boosters from aur? not to mention this was a serious time investment to get that sp, why shouldn't that investment be honored? So you mean to tell me that you have traveled back in time from the future when Legion is actually a live game and you've brought hard data concerning player counts? I can only run under the assumption that there will be smaller player counts than Dust since I am not really inclined to believe that a simple change of platform will cause an explosion of players. Why smaller than Dust? Because the Dust playerbase is the only one I can picture being really truly interested in Legion and there are a good number of them that have made it fully clear that they will have nothing to do with Legion at all. I am also not very inclined to imagine that the Legion player market will have any serious connection to the actual TQ player market until the second or third build at the earliest. Dust was broken by passive Isk and passive Isk should have no place in Legion at all. In order to ensure this, the financial playing field should be leveled. I've highlighted a portion of my post that I believe you may have overlooked. Minmatar Weapons Specialist Explosives Connoisseur Logi for Hire
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8730	Posted - 2014.06.01 23:33:00 - [6] - Quote In regards to AUR items such as the 'Kindred', 'Neo', and other suits as well as AUR BPOs and our SP, I would say let us keep those. For AUR BPOs, since they will be made completely redundant with Legion's all-suits-are-now-bpos system, I would expect the AUR BPOs to be at least cosmetic items that can be applied to any suit you wear within its class. For example, if I have a 'Skinweave' BPO or a 'Templar' BPO suit, then the color schemes of those suits should be able to be applied to any suit we choose within the class and can only remain applicable as long as we possess the specific AUR BPO in our possession. If we sell off the AUR BPOs to someone else, then we lose that ability while someone else gets that ability. Fair enough for me. In regards to keeping ISK from Dust, I'm going to have to say that from an economic point of view, it will be a terrible idea to transfer all of it WITHOUT first actively removing the ISK farmed via the exploitation of district locking. This is less to do with protecting Legion's market and more to do with protecting Eve Online's market. For example, if I'm a player that actually earned the ISK from PC by actively fighting and finishing a PC battle as I should, then I should keep that ISK. But if I'm a player who exploited the district locking mechanic to farm ISK without having to worry about being attacked, then I shouldn't be allowed to keep all that ISK. I should lose a huge chunk of that ISK upon transfer. To prevent PC-ISK farmers from circumventing the ISK removal by turning all that ISK into assets, only a fraction of those NON-AUR items should be transferred over. I don't care if I pissed any of you off with my suggestion here. If you farmed massive amounts of ISK via PC district locking, then you are not worthy of keeping that ISK. Period. And don't try to convince me to change my mind on the matter. Cheating is cheating and I will not condone it. Constant district locking WAS NOT what CCP intended for you to do with the district. They expected us to fight over all of Molden Heath back in Dust, not lock Molden Heath completely from the outside world. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.


Pages: [1] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online/DUST514, the EVE/DUST514 logo, EVE/DUST514 and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to OMG Labs to use EVE Online/DUST514 and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, OMG Labs. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.