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Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.30 23:22:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:This looks like someone wrote this 8 months ago. Didn't put a single person who has been active and relevant as of late. +1 for trying though.
tis better to be silent and thought a fool.
What history of Dust would start when YOU started playing? it has to encompass the game's whole history. If you don't have a clue about some of the people/events they're talking about that's your clue to listen instead of talking. |
AFK Godfather
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2014.05.30 23:48:00 -
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DustMercsBlog wrote:AFK Godfather wrote:Reiki Jubo wrote:DustMercsBlog wrote:AFK Godfather wrote:Another poor list of "most memorable" people in DUST. Zionshad? REALLY??!!!! lol For a site that's been here from the start, the list of players and corps you made shows how little knowledge, or how biased you are to people you know. Then again, right from the start this site's been a joke. I remember the list Dusters made for the top corps in the game... anyone else remember that joke? Betamax was on that list why thank u...you realize tho, that Betamax was where guys like The Zitros, Kane Spero and other core Imperfects came from before they left to form their own group, right? owned. At the time of that "blog" imperfects were already established. So yeeeeaaaa btw, I like how you log out of your Dusters Blog account to comment on this thread under this name ur completely missing the point which is: Betamax was a haven for tons of elite level players. When you say their name like they were scrubs you show your lack of knowledge. I understand not everyone was there from closed beta on. But dont disregard groups/people just because they predate you. You started watching this game in the 3rde quarter while many of us were here in the beginning.
You're missing the point. Betamax did nothing in DUST, period. I don't care who was there, or who wasn't. Basing their "ranking" on who was there is a dumb logic. Betamax since beta was a none factor in MANY ways. I'm not just picking on them, but Zion was as well, none factor, yet if I'm not mistaken, was also on that top 10 corps list.
Your website is nothing but biased, made up news, and generally uninformed information sir.
http://dustmercs.blogspot.com/2012/12/1213-corp-power-rankings.html
In case people are wondering what joke I speak of. Look at those rankings... only corp you have right is IMP, and later on PFB (8v8 corp battles). Every other corp there either ran from competition, or were beaten up by other corps not on that list.
You put Zion there based on leadership??? ....let's forget actual player skill right?
You should have made these ranking when PC came out, and people couldn't hide and dodge battles.
Any way, that list and this current list of "Hall of Fame" players just prove that you don't know what you speak of. |
THUNDERGROOVE
The Last of DusT.
883
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Posted - 2014.05.31 02:05:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:This looks like someone wrote this 8 months ago. Didn't put a single person who has been active and relevant as of late. +1 for trying though. reading is fundamental! "I understand not everyone was there from closed beta on. But dont disregard groups/people just because they predate you. You started watching this game in the 3rde quarter while many of us were here in the beginning." No I read the entire article. I've played DUST since before Chromosome. There are people who I still think would be better on this list.
>Team quota reached
Darnit I have to wait for one of the blueberry shit LAVs to get blown up:(
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
15262
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Posted - 2014.05.31 05:32:00 -
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I find it insulting that CWJ gets no category of his own.
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3321
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Posted - 2014.05.31 08:14:00 -
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Kalante Schiffer wrote:Seriously? no mention of cubs and soul arguably the two best FC's in the game. This list a joke.
Never played a better FC than Soul.
Cubs and Radar get special mention as well.
But Soul > All. I wanted to beat Soul's teams that had marauder more than I wanted anything else.
This list is poor.
CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1
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DustMercsBlog
Galactic News Network
133
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Posted - 2014.05.31 11:48:00 -
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AFK Godfather wrote: Another poor list of "most memorable" people in DUST. Zionshad? REALLY??!!!! lol You're missing the point. Betamax did nothing in DUST, period. I don't care who was there, or who wasn't. Basing their "ranking" on who was there is a dumb logic. Betamax since beta was a none factor in MANY ways. I'm not just picking on them, but Zion was as well, none factor, yet if I'm not mistaken, was also on that top 10 corps list. In case people are wondering what joke I speak of. Look at those rankings... only corp you have right is IMP, and later on PFB (8v8 corp battles). Every other corp there either ran from competition, or were beaten up by other corps not on that list. You put Zion there based on leadership??? ....let's forget actual player skill right? You should have made these ranking when PC came out, and people couldn't hide and dodge battles. Any way, that list and this current list of "Hall of Fame" players just prove that you don't know what you speak of.
the list was done right after the tourney and reflected how teams performed. if you didnt like ur ranking maybe you should have performed better.
fyi: no one from betamax is listed in the HOF.
for the record 'betamax never did anything' is patently false. they were integral parts of the first major alliance [cronos] which is one of only three that were able to own the majority of land in MH [the others are EON and ERA] as an aside they also pioneered the awoxing that was a popular tactic early in pc, but please go on. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2152
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Posted - 2014.05.31 13:39:00 -
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DustMercsBlog wrote:for the record 'betamax never did anything' is patently false Actually it's not really all that false. Betamax did play and win some meaningless corp battles in their first iteration early in closed beta while the Imperfects people were still there, but that's pretty much it.
Yes, they were a part of Cronos, but implying they were a central part of that alliance is pretty hilarious. SI, WTF and GAC were the main components of Cronos and Betamax did close to nothing.
Yes, some of their people (Jenza mainly) awoxed at the start of PC, but Grief University did more in that regard, and if you do remember Betamax for awoxing, it's only because they still lost when they did it.
So yes, it's pretty hilarious putting Betamax on any top corp ranking lists etc, both back in closed beta or now.
For the OP, yes, it could have included other people, but it's probably not all that wrong.
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Dusters Blog
Galactic News Network
738
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Posted - 2014.05.31 18:14:00 -
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keep in mind our intent was to create a top ten list for the HOF. with only 10 slots we wanted as little overlap as possible. we tried to grab the preeminent guy in each field with a focus on what actually happened in the game world. so we had questions like:
who was Dust's most elite player? the answer was alldin kan who was the best alliance leader, mastermind & manipulator? kane spero who led the field in terms of suggestions and design balance ideas w/o favoring anyone in particular? kagehoshi what was the most elite corp? the imperfects early, but teamplayers had the most longevity. who did the most for the community in-game? easy answer - Kevall the CEO of Dust University
We chose shottygobang for his contribution to revamping the scout and influencing the registry movment. we felt cazaderon went above and beyond in terms of service on multiple levels website, suggestions, elite gameplay, CPM and his resignation from that group will always earn high marks with us...in our opinion he is the ultimate Dust player.
then we looked at corps with longevity and the ability to constantly reinvent themselves and stay relevant. Many dont like guys like quickgloves and zionshad but they were the best at this. both also managed huge corps well and could have dominated the game if it grew. people like to insult them but CEOs like Shad, QG and CBJ were basically handicapped by CCPs decision to make the game a 16v16 shooter. had it given us the asymmetrical warfare we all wanted who knows what they could have accomplished. Especially since both TCD and STB had a lot of good players.
we were bound to leave out people many of you should have made the list, but ask yourself if they were more deserving than the people we chose, and most importantly...................why?
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Lanius Pulvis
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
285
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:33:00 -
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Prius Vecht wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:This looks like someone wrote this 8 months ago. Didn't put a single person who has been active and relevant as of late. +1 for trying though. tis better to be silent and thought a fool. What history of Dust would start when YOU started playing? it has to encompass the game's whole history. If you don't have a clue about some of the people/events they're talking about that's your clue to listen instead of talking.
Relevance once upon a time does not mean relevance now however. Nostalgia is not the same as a meaningful contribution.
Not new, just new to you.
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nathan scrapper-MY
Harimau Malaya.
8
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Posted - 2014.06.01 14:48:00 -
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Shotty of course. Jenza gets my vote as well (not trolling) |
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Prius Vecht
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
388
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Posted - 2014.06.01 15:00:00 -
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Lanius Pulvis wrote:Prius Vecht wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:This looks like someone wrote this 8 months ago. Didn't put a single person who has been active and relevant as of late. +1 for trying though. tis better to be silent and thought a fool. What history of Dust would start when YOU started playing? it has to encompass the game's whole history. If you don't have a clue about some of the people/events they're talking about that's your clue to listen instead of talking. Relevance once upon a time does not mean relevance now however. Nostalgia is not the same as a meaningful contribution.
And who would be more qualified to determine relevance? Someone who's been here since Chromosome or someone who's been playing 6 months? Take your time.
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General John Ripper
22086
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Posted - 2014.06.01 15:47:00 -
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4/10 would not read again.
The legend never dies.
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Immortal John Ripper
22091
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Posted - 2014.06.01 15:47:00 -
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4/10 would not read again.
The legend never dies.
Appia Vibbia is paying me 100m isk to tell you "Vote for appia"
Message her if u want isk too.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
13890
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Posted - 2014.06.01 17:25:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:4/10 would not read again.
Overly generous.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cross Atu for CPM1
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AFK Godfather
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2014.06.01 18:24:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:keep in mind our intent was to create a top ten list for the HOF. with only 10 slots we wanted as little overlap as possible. we tried to grab the preeminent guy in each field with a focus on what actually happened in the game world. so we had questions like:
who was Dust's most elite player? the answer was alldin kan who was the best alliance leader, mastermind & manipulator? kane spero who led the field in terms of suggestions and design balance ideas w/o favoring anyone in particular? kagehoshi what was the most elite corp? the imperfects early, but teamplayers had the most longevity. who did the most for the community in-game? easy answer - Kevall the CEO of Dust University
We chose shottygobang for his contribution to revamping the scout and influencing the registry movment. we felt cazaderon went above and beyond in terms of service on multiple levels website, suggestions, elite gameplay, CPM and his resignation from that group will always earn high marks with us...in our opinion he is the ultimate Dust player.
then we looked at corps with longevity and the ability to constantly reinvent themselves and stay relevant. Many dont like guys like quickgloves and zionshad but they were the best at this. both also managed huge corps well and could have dominated the game if it grew. people like to insult them but CEOs like Shad, QG and CBJ were basically handicapped by CCPs decision to make the game a 16v16 shooter. had it given us the asymmetrical warfare we all wanted who knows what they could have accomplished. Especially since both TCD and STB had a lot of good players.
we were bound to leave out people many of you thought should have made the list, but ask yourself if they were more deserving than the people we chose, and most importantly...................why?
Shad and CBJ would have dominated the game if it grew? Is this a joke? You're talking about zerg tactics, then a few lines later mention "allot of good players"? Zerg tactics and skill are completely different things. If they had allot of skilled players, then 16v16 would have enable them to dominate PC.
Zion was already the biggest corp in the game, and they were by all means USELESS when PC came out. QG was also a joke. I remember when NF took their planet in 2 weeks, and QG hired TP to take it back. Did you forget that or was that conveniently not mentioned?
The first big war, CRONOS vs EON... I don't think you realize it, but TP was busy with NF on STB's planet. During that period EON's other corps were the ones that were fighting battles against CRONOS. But I guess you didn't know that because you weren't there to see it, but like always, you make up stuff.
TP, IMP, and the CEO of Dust Uni is the only thing I agree with on that list. Everything else just comes across as uneducated guesses with opinions motivating the majority of it. |
Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
415
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Posted - 2014.06.01 18:50:00 -
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here we go....another eon lover aying they should have had spot 1-10. give it a rest. |
JDEZ09
Dark Side Alliance
65
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Posted - 2014.06.01 19:35:00 -
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Lol these types of threads are always funny.
I agree with the TP part. Cubs ran a well oiled machine of a PC match.
I couldnt speak on behalf of other corps because I didnt really run with many of the other top dogs back in the day, but TP helped me see the vision of how to lead a team and communicate with discipline. it was an everyday, every match discipline that they were an example of.
EON was alot of fun to support. Those guys taught me alot, helped me unplug from the matrix that is, "run n gun fps style" playing.
So thanks to those of them who read this. |
AFK Godfather
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:22:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:here we go....another eon lover aying they should have had spot 1-10. give it a rest.
EON lover? Pretty sure I talked about CRONOS as well.
Just my knowledge leans more towards the winners of the war |
General John Ripper
22104
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:22:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:4/10 would not read again.
Overly generous. I am too much of a nice guy at heart.
The legend never dies.
Appia Vibbia is paying me 100m isk to tell you "Vote for appia"
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Immortal John Ripper
22105
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:22:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:4/10 would not read again.
Overly generous. I am too much of a nice guy at heart.
The legend never dies.
Appia Vibbia is paying me 100m isk to tell you "Vote for appia"
Message her if u want isk too.
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Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
444
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:34:00 -
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I liked the list. |
Dusters Blog
Galactic News Network
745
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Posted - 2014.06.01 20:44:00 -
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AFK Godfather wrote:Dusters Blog wrote:keep in mind our intent was to create a top ten list for the HOF. with only 10 slots we wanted as little overlap as possible. we tried to grab the preeminent guy in each field with a focus on what actually happened in the game world. so we had questions like:
who was Dust's most elite player? the answer was alldin kan who was the best alliance leader, mastermind & manipulator? kane spero who led the field in terms of suggestions and design balance ideas w/o favoring anyone in particular? kagehoshi what was the most elite corp? the imperfects early, but teamplayers had the most longevity. who did the most for the community in-game? easy answer - Kevall the CEO of Dust University
We chose shottygobang for his contribution to revamping the scout and influencing the registry movment. we felt cazaderon went above and beyond in terms of service on multiple levels website, suggestions, elite gameplay, CPM and his resignation from that group will always earn high marks with us...in our opinion he is the ultimate Dust player.
then we looked at corps with longevity and the ability to constantly reinvent themselves and stay relevant. Many dont like guys like quickgloves and zionshad but they were the best at this. both also managed huge corps well and could have dominated the game if it grew. people like to insult them but CEOs like Shad, QG and CBJ were basically handicapped by CCPs decision to make the game a 16v16 shooter. had it given us the asymmetrical warfare we all wanted who knows what they could have accomplished. Especially since both TCD and STB had a lot of good players.
we were bound to leave out people many of you thought should have made the list, but ask yourself if they were more deserving than the people we chose, and most importantly...................why? Shad and CBJ would have dominated the game if it grew? Is this a joke? You're talking about zerg tactics, then a few lines later mention "allot of good players"? Zerg tactics and skill are completely different things. If they had allot of skilled players, then 16v16 would have enable them to dominate PC. Zion was already the biggest corp in the game, and they were by all means USELESS when PC came out. QG was also a joke. I remember when NF took their planet in 2 weeks, and QG hired TP to take it back. Did you forget that or was that conveniently not mentioned? The first big war, CRONOS vs EON... I don't think you realize it, but TP was busy with NF on STB's planet. During that period EON's other corps were the ones that were fighting battles against CRONOS, because it was rumored that the EU timezones were not the best for them. There were a couple TP ringers, but the majority of EON fights were fought by OTHER EON corps. But I guess you didn't know that because you weren't there to see it, but like always, you make up stuff. TP, IMP, and the CEO of Dust Uni is the only thing I agree with on that list. Everything else just comes across as uneducated guesses with opinions motivating the majority of it.
no its not. ur like most people who only see their style of play as valid and discount all others. what u call 'zerging' were valid tactics used by napoleon, hannibal, the allies at normandy and the sioux at lil bighorn. but of course those tacticians probably pale in comparison to ur genius
CCP rewarded the small, elite corp by not allowing larger groups to bring their numbers to bear, but acting like a numbers advantage is somehow less valid than a skill one is silly.
wrong. dotlan consistently showed that PRO was the largest corp....and Zion TCD was so useless they controlled Mimiror and the area above it for months. if you read you notice we also cataloged how QG pioneered ringers and theres no shame in this, notice how popular it became. we dont expect you to agree with our list as you see things through ur EON tinted glasses, but as I stated before, who would you replace the people we chose with and why?
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General John Ripper
22105
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Posted - 2014.06.01 21:37:00 -
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I would replace everyone with Lady Killington because I wanna make her dust famous.
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Immortal John Ripper
22108
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Posted - 2014.06.01 21:37:00 -
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I would replace everyone with Lady Killington because I wanna make her dust famous.
The legend never dies.
Appia Vibbia is paying me 100m isk to tell you "Vote for appia"
Message her if u want isk too.
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Scheneighnay McBob
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
5128
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Posted - 2014.06.01 21:42:00 -
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2 big problems with this- Entire corps shouldn't be counted In my (nearly) 2 years of playing, I have never heard of Kevall Longstride
BOOP!
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Dusters Blog
Galactic News Network
745
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Posted - 2014.06.01 22:14:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:2 big problems with this- Entire corps shouldn't be counted In my (nearly) 2 years of playing, I have never heard of Kevall Longstride
then ur not very aware of your contemporaries....because he was the CEO of Dust Univ from its inception until present. says more about you than anything else.
leave out corps like the IMPs and TP just because their entities instead of individuals? probably not. the real question is were they HOF worthy? the short answer is yes. if not then tell us who was more deserving than them.
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Reiki Jubo
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
445
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Posted - 2014.06.01 22:15:00 -
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lol...they think the HOF should be the top 10 on the leaderboard. smh |
AFK Godfather
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:22:00 -
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Dusters Blog wrote:no its not. ur like most people who only see their style of play as valid and discount all others. what u call 'zerging' were valid tactics used by napoleon, hannibal, the allies at normandy and the sioux at lil bighorn. but of course those tacticians probably pale in comparison to ur genius CCP rewarded the small, elite corp by not allowing larger groups to bring their numbers to bear, but acting like a numbers advantage is somehow less valid than a skill one is silly. wrong. dotlan consistently showed that PRO was the largest corp....and Zion TCD was so useless they controlled Mimiror and the area above it for months. if you read you notice we also cataloged how QG pioneered ringers and theres no shame in this, notice how popular it became. we dont expect you to agree with our list as you see things through ur EON tinted glasses, but as I stated before, who would you replace the people we chose with and why?
Talking about a video game this dude brings up Napoleon... SMFH...
in a 16v16 game, having thousands of players means nothing doesn't it? Yet somehow you think that Zion was "the ****" because he commanded a zerg army that did nothing but land grab at the start? Who did they fight? Who did they beat?
You're rewarding QG for hiring ringers? LOOOOOOOL ... I understand rewarding FC with leading a team to victory, but hiring ringers? Sure, let's big up QG for that "tactic", because that's "skill". Thing is I'm not even hating on QG, I find him funny, but I don't hate on him.
Ringers became popular because teams couldn't field a team worth a damn, or people didn't have enough because inactivity. To say otherwise is foolish.
EON tinted glasses? IMO EON's era was the best era of DUST. Post 8v8 corp battles, those first wars were the best. Everything afterward was a joke. Carebear central.
I'm not saying who should be on the list, as my criteria isn't the same as yours...obviously
Which brings me to my next point about not making another list on these forums. Everyone has their own prejudices about who should be there...BUT this list has to be one of the funniest I've seen...QG and Zion Shad lol... needed to wipe a tear from laughing at that one. |
AFK Godfather
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
162
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:27:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:lol...they think the HOF should be the top 10 on the leaderboard. smh
"they"?... lol @ leaderboards in this game. Only in DUST you see so many people with a high KD. Trying to tell me DUST has THAT much skill? hahahaha
Games like COD and BF people have avg 1-2 KD, obviously some people higher...DUST? If you don't have at least a 5KD by now you might legally be blind or mentally challenged. The game is so easy.
Anyone who thinks leaderboards should be a criteria is also an idiot. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1094
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Posted - 2014.06.02 03:15:00 -
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AFK Godfather wrote:Anyone who thinks leaderboards should be a criteria is also an idiot. Having "Alldin Kan" as a name is a criteria buddy.
Alldin Kan has joined the battle!
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