what was stupid idea 246?

Keep playing Dust

Look at how much a proto repair tool repairs.

Look at how much DPS an unskilled STD rifle does.

So where would the logi be more useful in battle, with a repair tool out or with a gun out?

Remote repairers are useless unless your babying a bricked heavy.

most of the time i use adv or higher injector, uplink and hive for much more WPs.. last match i was at 2050 points and i didnt realise till end of the match and i sooo could have called an orbital T_T

Why other equipement isn't used much? Lets see:
1- Nanite injectors. For some reason about 2/3 of the dead people end up below the ground and can't be revived. The proto version gives as much WP as the militia one.
2- Scanners. For some reasons scanners give +15 "scan assists" only for you squad, you can light up the entire team, a blueberry can launch an orbital and kill 10 of them and you get 0 wp. And recharge time is soooooo long.
3- Drop uplinks. Good only on the amarr logi. Toooooo slow
4- Nanohives. Dries up almost immediately unless used on a caldari logi.

Repair tool: still good on every Logi, awesome on the minmatar logi. It is the only piece of equipement that is reliable in giving WP.
IMO the repair tool is fine but everything else was nerfed too much. Or doesen't work (see injectors).

Well after being babied by a logi all night last night I have decided **** it, I'm skilling into the rep tool.

But I still feel like this thread is valid. Think about it.

Even if a Gallente Logi has reps, he is less valuable to those people who want you to have constant reps on heavies in PC.

The way old four-eyes has to do it now is pause to make a scan, rep a little, pause to make another scan and/or drop equipment, rep some more.

The Gal Logi with reps will be a less effective scanner. By a lot.



People in your squad will be pissed if you have a needle with no reps. Especially if they start taking fire right after you revive them.

This is assuming all bullets hit the target, and the heavy stands still and never uses cover. -_-
Such an annoying and stupid argument.

Either way, I usually try to help apply DPS then rep the heavy as he runs back to cover, or rep the heavy after he kills things.
Those guardian points though when you have a good heavy...I'd keep my core focused on him all day long :3

What sucks is when I'm the only good heavy on the team :/

I am not really a fan of how "popular" the rep tool is. It's basically a gimmick to farm WP, a copy paste from Eve space battle tactics that does NOT work the same way in an FPS. All it really does is enable a player to run around babysitting proto stompers, and tactically in PC it forces the heavy and logi into a symbiotic role that makes them useless in any other play style. In fact I would say this also forces heavies to use Light weapons to be independent of the Logi.

In the words of a closed beta heavy who has given up Amarr for the Caldari Sentinel, "you're stuck with a logi and I have more freedom."

I switched from the Minmatar Logi to the Amarr Sentinel in 1.8 to avoid being stuck with a rep tool, because honestly it is not my favorite play style. I would rather spend my time in an FPS shooting other players with a gun, not healing them constantly and basically being a slave on a leash.
Then I decided once I was done skilling into the heavy to become a Gal Logi because Scouts are FOTM and I wanted to be their one weakness. But now I am realizing that I will be forced to skill into the Rep Tool no matter what I do, because no one wants to use a Logi in PC that doesn't "have reps."

Wasn't the goal of changing the Logi bonuses in 1.8 to "reward specialization" into the racial equipment? I would say uplinks and repair tools are the ONLY thing people care about when hiring ringers or picking up players for PC battles.