We were thinking of a complex mime minigame :-)

At the most basic level there will be a much more accessible chat function

No they will be comic book style bubbles since the new direction is going to be super deformed and cell shaded

Perhaps one of the materials you could find planetside can be used to provide you with an emergency clone or two.

Or perhaps when killing other players you can harvest their biological materials for additional clones.

Players deploy salvage scanner that draws attention like fighting in dom.

Loot that a player or drone picks up should be recoverable off their body if you kill them. Or at least much of it should be. Also, when you kill another player or drone, some of their modules should survive and be salvageable.

Just so you know, I'm still alive and reading. Just been a bit busy. Will catch up on this thread soon.

If we don't do anything then my worry is that when people leave high sec they may well fall off a cliff in to a world of ganking...

The most obvious difference with Legion is it looks better than Dust already. It uses all the PC graphical bells and whistles and revels in it - although it did have a running start. Being on PC means freedom, too - freedom to chop and change the game without involving Sony. And it means CCP can aim for Legion to have a slightly different tone - a tone closer to Eve Online's.

"Eve Online is all about betrayal," Gaudechon told me. The best bits of Eve Online happen when you ditch high-security, AI-policed space for the open waters of null-sec (no security) space. Legion will adopt the same approach. "As you venture deeper into space, there's basically no one to save your ass, to a certain extent," Gaudechon said. "In more secure space it's more like a social space; CONCORD [the policing body - Consolidated Cooperation and Relations Command] is there, there's no friendly fire - and if you do you'll get squished by the CONCORD foot.

"As you venture deeper into space, there's basically no one to save your ass"
Jean-Charles Gaudechon
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The skies and views are lovely. Watching while cloaked.
"As you go lower and CONCORD is not there any more, and friendly fire is turned on, you can imagine how that can go! And that probably will even become the most interesting PVP in the game."

You choose where in space you want to go from your apartment, your quarters, "your hub for the galaxy". You access the star map - a staple of Eve's - and choose battles or tournaments or, the new thing, Scavenging Grounds. These are the first iteration of the sandbox areas Gaudechon hopes will stand Legion apart, mixing PVE and PVP and offering people a place "to come and fight for loot".

"And as you get deeper into space to fight for loot, the line between friend and foe will become very blurry," he said, "so watch your back down there." That loot you'll find on downed AI drone enemies and, incidentally, other players. "That's the idea," Gaudechon nodded. "You can get the stuff out of people by killing them."

Salvage fields are set in the aftermath of battle and the salvage is scattered across the map and must be located and harvested. You don't gain it from directly killing drones currently.

At a minimum there will be text chat but we are considering some further indication of player intention.

There were some interesting thoughts earlier about seeing players with FF on as reds and FF off as blues. More ideas on this would be good to hear.

What about retaliation?

Someone shoots at me and becomes a threat, if I shoot back do I get marked too?

I had a little think about this and I'd be interested in putting a reward of that type in the hands of the players. For example at the end of or during a session you could gift people with stuff. Thanks Mr Policeman! That in turn could end up creating a lot more possible roles and could be done on an ad-hoc basis managed by players without the need for us to create specific game systems to support it.

Could also lead to protection rackets...

If we go down the line of being able to put bounties on enemy players. It would be cool if EVE players could get some of those bounties if they kill them via orbital bombardment.

Personally whilst I don't think the IFF module is a bad idea, I prefer a reactive system over a proactive one in this case because of the uncertainty it creates. I think it's a shame to lose that aspect of play by telegraphing peoples intentions.

Nothing quite makes a gun feel as badass than accidently blowing your best friends in one shot. :-P

This will only work on low alpha weaponry.

A cloaky shotgunner can one-shot just about everyone, cloak, and wait for the cooldown to expire for the next hit.

Same with FGs, snipers, PLCs, REs and, to a lesser extent, fully charged SCRs.

Quick note on consequences - Pking not only increases your suspicion rating but it is also one of the largest factors for increasing drone hostility towards you. High hostility will mean the drones are actively hunting you.

One PK is all it takes to become tagged as a 'threat' in match. If you were to leave a match and rejoin you would get only one PK before everyone who saw you knew you were a danger. Also there is a cost to deploy to a salvage site (to cover clones, jump cost etc) so ending a session and rejoining another is going to get costly if you're not earning.

Scenario: Squad Member 1 spawns first, landing in a ramdom location. Upon landing she/he puts out an LODB. The rest of the squad deploy to the becon. While they are in transit, random player destoys the LODB. What happens to players in transit? Do they lose their way? Do they now deploy to a random location within "x" meters of becon (say within 100-200 meters), so they can still regroup, but they aren't as far as they would be if they had randomly deployed? etc

So if we added the ability to drift how would like to control it with MKB?

I would put it like this assuming you are going straight down.

Mouse: Looking around. Has no bearing on which direction you actually fall but it should spring back to center after a moment of not looking around.

Yes but a freelook option would allow for some pretty cool player vids.

Oh and colored smoke grenades strapped to our ankles so we can make pretty rainbows as we fall.

How is Drift controlled in DUST using MKB? I use drift often when jumping off towers to land on lower sections of the tower, or when jumping out of the MCC to avoid landing on RDVGÇÖs or buildings, but I play with the DS3 controller