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        |  Aeon Amadi
 Edimmu Warfighters
 Gallente Federation
 
 5829
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.28 21:27:00 -
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 Some stuff that was talked about between the CPM 1 candidates.
 
 Warpoints for vehicle repair
- This was removed in closed beta due to abuse. Since we gain WP from causing damage to vehicles, is there any way that we could re-evaluate the Axis Repair Tool to both make it more viable as well as give incentive to repairing vehicles?
 
 Warpoint scaling with equipment tier (we currently get the same amount of WP for using militia nanite injectors as we do with prototype injectors)
- This was brought up by Cross Atu . Currently, the system incentives the use of all equipment tiers for the same rewards. It's actually more beneficial to use a militia injector and then repair the damage using a lower tiered repair tool, garnishing more WP in the end. Is there any way that we can re-evaluate this and encourage the use of better equipment tiers beyond them being more powerful? Can we encourage specialization?
 
 On a personal note, I think this would be a great opportunity to reduce some of the blow to Support Logistics incurred in 1.8 by giving more WP for better gear usage.
 
 An option to opt out of being revived
- Brought up by Appia Vibia. This has been needed for a very long time and was the sole reason that injector spamming in Faction Warfare was allowed to be abused. It's currently possible, given a small window, in the spawn screen - but it could use another look. Players should have an option to deny a revive, if possible. What are the possibilities of this happening in Dust 514?
 
 Re-evaluating Faction Warfare LP payouts.
- This was a common concern brought up by the community and it hasn't been touched in a while. What are the possibilities for re-evaluating Faction Warfare to give more incentive to play it, and utilize the gear provided more often?
 
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        |  Soraya Xel
 Abandoned Privilege
 Top Men.
 
 2605
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.28 21:50:00 -
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 Aeon Amadi wrote: An option to opt out of being revived
- Brought up by Appia Vibia . This has been needed for a very long time and was the sole reason that injector spamming in Faction Warfare was allowed to be abused. It's currently possible, given a small window, in the spawn screen - but it could use another look. Players should have an option to deny a revive, if possible. What are the possibilities of this happening in Dust 514?  
 This one has been brought up countless times by countless people. It really really really needs to change. But I don't think it can be hotfixed. The UI needs to change to allow you to accept or reject a revive.
 
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        |  TRULY ELITE
 WarRavens
 Final Resolution.
 
 14
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.28 21:56:00 -
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 I agree with factional changes, surely increased payouts could be achieved in alpha but this depends on when they have planned to launch the hotfix. You never know it could be a week or a month.
 
 Made a post earlier about factional @ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=163786&find=unread
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        |  One Eyed King
 Land of the BIind
 
 1682
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.28 22:10:00 -
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 Aeon Amadi wrote:Re-evaluating Faction Warfare LP payouts.
- This was a common concern brought up by the community and it hasn't been touched in a while. What are the possibilities for re-evaluating Faction Warfare to give more incentive to play it, and utilize the gear provided more often?
 I think FW needs to get some of its ISK back too.
 
 The current dynamic was based on the future implementation of a marketplace, which we know we are no longer getting. I am assuming of course that payout is easily changeable, and not a client side fix.
 
 If this is a client side problem, I think this should go on the back burner as I think there are many other client side issues that need addressing first, if its even possible to get to any at all.
 
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        |  CCP Rattati
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 1927
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.28 23:34:00 -
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 Aeon Amadi wrote:Some stuff that was talked about between the CPM 1 candidates.Warpoints for vehicle repair - This was removed in closed beta due to abuse. Since we gain WP from causing damage to vehicles, is there any way that we could re-evaluate the Axis Repair Tool to both make it more viable as well as give incentive to repairing vehicles? Warpoint scaling with equipment tier (we currently get the same amount of WP for using militia nanite injectors as we do with prototype injectors) - This was brought up by Cross Atu . Currently, the system incentives the use of all equipment tiers for the same rewards. It's actually more beneficial to use a militia injector and then repair the damage using a lower tiered repair tool, garnishing more WP in the end. Is there any way that we can re-evaluate this and encourage the use of better equipment tiers beyond them being more powerful? Can we encourage specialization?  On a personal note, I think this would be a great opportunity to reduce some of the blow to Support Logistics incurred in 1.8 by giving more WP for better gear usage. An option to opt out of being revived - Brought up by Appia Vibia . This has been needed for a very long time and was the sole reason that injector spamming in Faction Warfare was allowed to be abused. It's currently possible, given a small window, in the spawn screen - but it could use another look. Players should have an option to deny a revive, if possible. What are the possibilities of this happening in Dust 514? Re-evaluating Faction Warfare LP payouts. - This was a common concern brought up by the community and it hasn't been touched in a while. What are the possibilities for re-evaluating Faction Warfare to give more incentive to play it, and utilize the gear provided more often? EDIT: As brought up by One Eyed King, below, the current system was implemented on the assumption that there would be a player market in play later on. This is no longer the case and it needs to be re-considered. 
 All these have been on my list for some time now, good to know they are supported by the community. On a very similar note, I feel like mobile crus should be incentivized.
 
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        |  SponkSponkSponk
 The Southern Legion
 Final Resolution.
 
 833
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.28 23:43:00 -
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 Do mobile crus get the uplink-style WP bonus yet?
 
 Mobile CRUs do have an advantage that (theoretically) it's tougher to take one out, and they start at 10 seconds spawn instead of 15.
 
 Perhaps the mobile CRU skill needs to be looked at? Perhaps a fitting bonus (subtle), or a bonus to deploy speed (blatant)?
 
 But frankly, it has to do with the fact that they have to compete against damage mods, speed mods and scanners for mid slots so they're a very niche fit.
 
 
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        |  Bradric Banewolf
 D3ATH CARD
 
 179
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.28 23:43:00 -
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 [quote=Aeon Amadi]Some stuff that was talked about between the CPM 1 candidates.
 
 Warpoints for vehicle repair
- This was removed in closed beta due to abuse. Since we gain WP from causing damage to vehicles, is there any way that we could re-evaluate the Axis Repair Tool to both make it more viable as well as give incentive to repairing vehicles?
 
 This is one i am interested in simply to see if you guys can fix it to where it isn't abused. If some guy is able, and brave enough, to rep a tank in battle why not give him some points? After all some rep tools in-game are still built for vehicle repair.
 
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        |  SponkSponkSponk
 The Southern Legion
 Final Resolution.
 
 834
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.28 23:55:00 -
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 Ironically, most of the time, a repair tool is clearly inferior to either a basic heavy repairer, or calling in a new tank and recalling the old one.
 
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        |  lithkul devant
 Legions of Infinite Dominion
 Zero-Day
 
 235
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 00:00:00 -
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 Bradric Banewolf wrote:[quote=Aeon Amadi]Some stuff that was talked about between the CPM 1 candidates.Warpoints for vehicle repair
- This was removed in closed beta due to abuse. Since we gain WP from causing damage to vehicles, is there any way that we could re-evaluate the Axis Repair Tool to both make it more viable as well as give incentive to repairing vehicles?
 
 
 This is one i am interested in simply to see if you guys can fix it to where it isn't abused. If some guy is able, and brave enough, to rep a tank in battle why not give him some points? After all some rep tools in-game are still built for vehicle repair.
 
 If the tank kills someone while you are repping it, you do get the guardian wp bonus for 35 points, similar to how that happens when you are repping an infantry and they get a kill and give you the guardian wp bonus. Also, to be repping a tank is very dangerous most times, since you usually are in an open field, the tanker will not look out for you, meaning you're probably an easy kill if someone gets the drop on you.
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        |  SponkSponkSponk
 The Southern Legion
 Final Resolution.
 
 834
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 00:09:00 -
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 In other games, you can use a repair tool on the vehicle you're in :/
 
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 Edimmu Warfighters
 Gallente Federation
 
 5839
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 00:13:00 -
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 SponkSponkSponk wrote:In other games, you can use a repair tool on the vehicle you're in :/ 
 Helicopter passenger repair in Battlefield, right. That'd be seriously OP in Dust 514 though, just saying >_>;;;
 
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        |  SponkSponkSponk
 The Southern Legion
 Final Resolution.
 
 834
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 00:17:00 -
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 Aeon Amadi wrote:Helicopter passenger repair in Battlefield, right. That'd be seriously OP in Dust 514 though, just saying >_>;;;
 
 Not if you tweak it to only be turret seats.
 
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 Edimmu Warfighters
 Gallente Federation
 
 5839
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 00:28:00 -
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 SponkSponkSponk wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Helicopter passenger repair in Battlefield, right. That'd be seriously OP in Dust 514 though, just saying >_>;;;
 Not if you tweak it to only be turret seats. Heck, if you want, make it a separate turret type. 
 That was actually a proposal for remote repair/shield transporters before they were removed - I don't think it's very likely now that Dust 514 is only doing server side stuff. Though, it does give us a golden opportunity to make Axis Repair Tools far more viable than they currently are =)
 
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        |  Adipem Nothi
 Nos Nothi
 
 1144
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 01:25:00 -
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 No one mentioned Vehicles / AV?
 
 :: Scratches Head ::
 
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        |  Cross Atu
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 2180
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 01:34:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Some stuff that was talked about between the CPM 1 candidates.Warpoints for vehicle repair - This was removed in closed beta due to abuse. Since we gain WP from causing damage to vehicles, is there any way that we could re-evaluate the Axis Repair Tool to both make it more viable as well as give incentive to repairing vehicles? Warpoint scaling with equipment tier (we currently get the same amount of WP for using militia nanite injectors as we do with prototype injectors) - This was brought up by Cross Atu . Currently, the system incentives the use of all equipment tiers for the same rewards. It's actually more beneficial to use a militia injector and then repair the damage using a lower tiered repair tool, garnishing more WP in the end. Is there any way that we can re-evaluate this and encourage the use of better equipment tiers beyond them being more powerful? Can we encourage specialization?  On a personal note, I think this would be a great opportunity to reduce some of the blow to Support Logistics incurred in 1.8 by giving more WP for better gear usage. An option to opt out of being revived - Brought up by Appia Vibia . This has been needed for a very long time and was the sole reason that injector spamming in Faction Warfare was allowed to be abused. It's currently possible, given a small window, in the spawn screen - but it could use another look. Players should have an option to deny a revive, if possible. What are the possibilities of this happening in Dust 514? Re-evaluating Faction Warfare LP payouts. - This was a common concern brought up by the community and it hasn't been touched in a while. What are the possibilities for re-evaluating Faction Warfare to give more incentive to play it, and utilize the gear provided more often? EDIT: As brought up by One Eyed King, below, the current system was implemented on the assumption that there would be a player market in play later on. This is no longer the case and it needs to be re-considered. All these have been on my list for some time now, good to know they are supported by the community. On a very similar note, I feel like mobile crus should be incentivized. Great to hear
  
 ~Cross
 
 ps ~ Thanks to Aeon for taking the time to write up this OP. o7
 
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        |  Adipem Nothi
 Nos Nothi
 
 1145
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 02:11:00 -
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 SponkSponkSponk wrote:In other games, you can use a repair tool on the vehicle you're in :/ In other games, AV means "anti-vehicle" and pilots actually try to avoid it :/
 
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 Edimmu Warfighters
 Gallente Federation
 
 5842
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 02:47:00 -
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 Adipem Nothi wrote:HOTFIX BETA Vehicle / AV Balance Pass Rep Tools for my Tank! :: Scratches Head :: :: Glares at Aeon :: Judge Rhadamanthus: "Remove vehicles from Ambush" 
 Politics is the art of compromise ^_- Advocating one thing does not necessary mean that I don't want sacrifices to come from other areas.
 
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        |  MINA Longstrike
 
 803
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 03:44:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Some stuff that was talked about between the CPM 1 candidates.Warpoints for vehicle repair - This was removed in closed beta due to abuse. Since we gain WP from causing damage to vehicles, is there any way that we could re-evaluate the Axis Repair Tool to both make it more viable as well as give incentive to repairing vehicles? Warpoint scaling with equipment tier (we currently get the same amount of WP for using militia nanite injectors as we do with prototype injectors) - This was brought up by Cross Atu . Currently, the system incentives the use of all equipment tiers for the same rewards. It's actually more beneficial to use a militia injector and then repair the damage using a lower tiered repair tool, garnishing more WP in the end. Is there any way that we can re-evaluate this and encourage the use of better equipment tiers beyond them being more powerful? Can we encourage specialization?  On a personal note, I think this would be a great opportunity to reduce some of the blow to Support Logistics incurred in 1.8 by giving more WP for better gear usage. An option to opt out of being revived - Brought up by Appia Vibia . This has been needed for a very long time and was the sole reason that injector spamming in Faction Warfare was allowed to be abused. It's currently possible, given a small window, in the spawn screen - but it could use another look. Players should have an option to deny a revive, if possible. What are the possibilities of this happening in Dust 514? Re-evaluating Faction Warfare LP payouts. - This was a common concern brought up by the community and it hasn't been touched in a while. What are the possibilities for re-evaluating Faction Warfare to give more incentive to play it, and utilize the gear provided more often? EDIT: As brought up by One Eyed King, below, the current system was implemented on the assumption that there would be a player market in play later on. This is no longer the case and it needs to be re-considered. All these have been on my list for some time now, good to know they are supported by the community. On a very similar note, I feel like mobile crus should be incentivized. 
 I fit MCRU's to some of my tanks and LAV's when I'm going to be pushing objectives - I'd love to get a few wps for people surviving a minimum of say 15 seconds once spawned, I'd also love to see inherent cost reductions to dropships fitting them. Please turn them into activated modules with no cool down/uptime so they can be activated / de activated as seen fit pilot, with higher module tiers allowing faster spawns.
 
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        |  XxGhazbaranxX
 The New Age Outlaws
 Proficiency V.
 
 1406
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 03:52:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Some stuff that was talked about between the CPM 1 candidates.Warpoints for vehicle repair - This was removed in closed beta due to abuse. Since we gain WP from causing damage to vehicles, is there any way that we could re-evaluate the Axis Repair Tool to both make it more viable as well as give incentive to repairing vehicles? Warpoint scaling with equipment tier (we currently get the same amount of WP for using militia nanite injectors as we do with prototype injectors) - This was brought up by Cross Atu . Currently, the system incentives the use of all equipment tiers for the same rewards. It's actually more beneficial to use a militia injector and then repair the damage using a lower tiered repair tool, garnishing more WP in the end. Is there any way that we can re-evaluate this and encourage the use of better equipment tiers beyond them being more powerful? Can we encourage specialization?  On a personal note, I think this would be a great opportunity to reduce some of the blow to Support Logistics incurred in 1.8 by giving more WP for better gear usage. An option to opt out of being revived - Brought up by Appia Vibia . This has been needed for a very long time and was the sole reason that injector spamming in Faction Warfare was allowed to be abused. It's currently possible, given a small window, in the spawn screen - but it could use another look. Players should have an option to deny a revive, if possible. What are the possibilities of this happening in Dust 514? Re-evaluating Faction Warfare LP payouts. - This was a common concern brought up by the community and it hasn't been touched in a while. What are the possibilities for re-evaluating Faction Warfare to give more incentive to play it, and utilize the gear provided more often? EDIT: As brought up by One Eyed King, below, the current system was implemented on the assumption that there would be a player market in play later on. This is no longer the case and it needs to be re-considered. All these have been on my list for some time now, good to know they are supported by the community. On a very similar note, I feel like mobile crus should be incentivized. 
 YES !!! I also think that advanced and proto CRUs should be made to have faster spawn times... Love having a mobile cru, hate no one using it cause it's 10 seconds and there is something better on the ground
 
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        |  Adipem Nothi
 Nos Nothi
 
 1147
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 04:06:00 -
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 Aeon Amadi wrote:
 Politics is the art of compromise ^_- Advocating one thing does not necessary mean that I don't want sacrifices to come from other areas.
 
  
 As a member of CPM1, you can count on the New Aeon Amadi to:
 
 * Evade / Redirect when asked difficult questions
 * Ignore the big issues and advocate for fluff
 * Promise everything while committing to nothing
 
 It's a good thing this New Aeon Amadi isn't running for CPM, right?
 
 The Old Aeon Amadi was way more likely to win my vote.
 
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        |  Harpyja
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1784
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 04:16:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Some stuff that was talked about between the CPM 1 candidates.Warpoints for vehicle repair - This was removed in closed beta due to abuse. Since we gain WP from causing damage to vehicles, is there any way that we could re-evaluate the Axis Repair Tool to both make it more viable as well as give incentive to repairing vehicles? Warpoint scaling with equipment tier (we currently get the same amount of WP for using militia nanite injectors as we do with prototype injectors) - This was brought up by Cross Atu . Currently, the system incentives the use of all equipment tiers for the same rewards. It's actually more beneficial to use a militia injector and then repair the damage using a lower tiered repair tool, garnishing more WP in the end. Is there any way that we can re-evaluate this and encourage the use of better equipment tiers beyond them being more powerful? Can we encourage specialization?  On a personal note, I think this would be a great opportunity to reduce some of the blow to Support Logistics incurred in 1.8 by giving more WP for better gear usage. An option to opt out of being revived - Brought up by Appia Vibia . This has been needed for a very long time and was the sole reason that injector spamming in Faction Warfare was allowed to be abused. It's currently possible, given a small window, in the spawn screen - but it could use another look. Players should have an option to deny a revive, if possible. What are the possibilities of this happening in Dust 514? Re-evaluating Faction Warfare LP payouts. - This was a common concern brought up by the community and it hasn't been touched in a while. What are the possibilities for re-evaluating Faction Warfare to give more incentive to play it, and utilize the gear provided more often? EDIT: As brought up by One Eyed King, below, the current system was implemented on the assumption that there would be a player market in play later on. This is no longer the case and it needs to be re-considered. All these have been on my list for some time now, good to know they are supported by the community. On a very similar note, I feel like mobile crus should be incentivized. And give a purpose to training the skill beyond 1. Perhaps reduced spawn time going up into enhanced and complex? Or just simply change the skill to offer -10% spawn time per level.
 
 And please rename the skill (it's engineering iirc). The old engineering skill gave us PG. I'm sure I'm not the only one that wants it back. There needs to be more benefits to investing SP into vehicles. Some form of a SP gap is good. Right now there's almost no SP gap for vehicles.
 
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        |  John Demonsbane
 Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
 League of Infamy
 
 3445
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 04:52:00 -
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 Can we please get some kind of visual cue that your are being repped put back in? Yes, I can babble on and on and on over the comms to tell my plump friend he is or is not being repped, the rest of my squad loves that.
 
 Doesn't help much when I'm running solo or a wayward heavy not in my squad happens by.
 
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        |  SirManBoy
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 584
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 05:56:00 -
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 Opting out of revives? We might as well throw the injector in the garbage completely then.
 
 It's an already under used and under appreciated piece of equipment that puts its users in significant danger. You can't make a change like that without replacing it with a mechanic or reward system that still makes the injector worth using.
 
 Also, what sense does it make for an incapacitated body to have the ability to make any decisions at all? Even having the ability to bleed out is a stretch as it suggests that people can just commit suicide with their mind.
 
 People look at the injector all wrong. Yes, getting revived at an inopportune time can hurt your KDR a bit, but it can also save you a suit. Ultimately, that's far more important. Now I'm no proponent for idiotic logi play and I think bad injector use is poor form on the battlefield, but allowing people to deny a resuscitation seems like the wrong way to address this problem.
 
 
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        |  CCP Rattati
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 1936
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 06:18:00 -
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 SirManBoy wrote:Opting out of revives? We might as well throw the injector in the garbage completely then.
 It's an already under used and under appreciated piece of equipment that puts its users in significant danger. You can't make a change like that without replacing it with a mechanic or reward system that still makes the injector worth using.
 
 Also, what sense does it make for an incapacitated body to have the ability to make any decisions at all? Even having the ability to bleed out is a stretch as it suggests that people can just commit suicide with their mind.
 
 People look at the injector all wrong. Yes, getting revived at an inopportune time can hurt your KDR a bit, but it can also save you a suit. Ultimately, that's far more important. Now I'm no proponent for idiotic logi play and I think bad injector use is poor form on the battlefield, but allowing people to deny a resuscitation seems like the wrong way to address this problem.
 
 
 
 I am of the mind that people who don't want revives should suicide immediately and then they can't be revived. Second, I would like to make WP be in proportion to healed HP, it shouldn't pay off to heal with a militia needle and rep, instead of using a proto needle. Something like 25-50-75 or even just WP=HP healed. Same for damage, I don't like getting 25 WP for an assist when I dropped 95% of the damage.
 
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        |  KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
 Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
 
 10962
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 06:23:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:SirManBoy wrote:Opting out of revives? We might as well throw the injector in the garbage completely then.
 It's an already under used and under appreciated piece of equipment that puts its users in significant danger. You can't make a change like that without replacing it with a mechanic or reward system that still makes the injector worth using.
 
 Also, what sense does it make for an incapacitated body to have the ability to make any decisions at all? Even having the ability to bleed out is a stretch as it suggests that people can just commit suicide with their mind.
 
 People look at the injector all wrong. Yes, getting revived at an inopportune time can hurt your KDR a bit, but it can also save you a suit. Ultimately, that's far more important. Now I'm no proponent for idiotic logi play and I think bad injector use is poor form on the battlefield, but allowing people to deny a resuscitation seems like the wrong way to address this problem.
 
 
 I am of the mind that people who don't want revives should suicide immediately and then they can't be revived. Second, I would like to make WP be in proportion to healed HP, it shouldn't pay off to heal with a militia needle and rep, instead of using a proto needle. Something like 25-50-75 or even just WP=HP healed. Same for damage, I don't like getting 25 WP for an assist when I dropped 95% of the damage. There is no suicide option when incapacitated, pressing O doesn't automatically kill you; it just takes you to the map to select your spawn point, and there is a lot of time between pressing O and selecting your next spawn point in which you can get revived when you don't want to be.
 
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        |  Regis Blackbird
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 264
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 06:39:00 -
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 KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:There is no suicide option when incapacitated, pressing O doesn't automatically kill you; it just takes you to the map to select your spawn point, and there is a lot of time between pressing O and selecting your next spawn point in which you can get revived when you don't want to be.
 
 This ^ is very true.
 It happens quite frequently I die (yes, I am good at that
  ) and want to switch suite and location to counter the new threat, just to be revived at the last second leaving me in a very bad spot (I died for a reason, right...) 
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        |  SirManBoy
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 584
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.29 07:00:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:SirManBoy wrote:Opting out of revives? We might as well throw the injector in the garbage completely then.
 It's an already under used and under appreciated piece of equipment that puts its users in significant danger. You can't make a change like that without replacing it with a mechanic or reward system that still makes the injector worth using.
 
 Also, what sense does it make for an incapacitated body to have the ability to make any decisions at all? Even having the ability to bleed out is a stretch as it suggests that people can just commit suicide with their mind.
 
 People look at the injector all wrong. Yes, getting revived at an inopportune time can hurt your KDR a bit, but it can also save you a suit. Ultimately, that's far more important. Now I'm no proponent for idiotic logi play and I think bad injector use is poor form on the battlefield, but allowing people to deny a resuscitation seems like the wrong way to address this problem.
 
 
 I am of the mind that people who don't want revives should suicide immediately and then they can't be revived. Second, I would like to make WP be in proportion to healed HP, it shouldn't pay off to heal with a militia needle and rep, instead of using a proto needle. Something like 25-50-75 or even just WP=HP healed. Same for damage, I don't like getting 25 WP for an assist when I dropped 95% of the damage. 
 You're a good egg, Rattati. I'm really enjoying your presence on the forums.
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        |  CCP Rattati
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2014.05.29 07:11:00 -
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 KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:SirManBoy wrote:Opting out of revives? We might as well throw the injector in the garbage completely then.
 It's an already under used and under appreciated piece of equipment that puts its users in significant danger. You can't make a change like that without replacing it with a mechanic or reward system that still makes the injector worth using.
 
 Also, what sense does it make for an incapacitated body to have the ability to make any decisions at all? Even having the ability to bleed out is a stretch as it suggests that people can just commit suicide with their mind.
 
 People look at the injector all wrong. Yes, getting revived at an inopportune time can hurt your KDR a bit, but it can also save you a suit. Ultimately, that's far more important. Now I'm no proponent for idiotic logi play and I think bad injector use is poor form on the battlefield, but allowing people to deny a resuscitation seems like the wrong way to address this problem.
 
 
 I am of the mind that people who don't want revives should suicide immediately and then they can't be revived. Second, I would like to make WP be in proportion to healed HP, it shouldn't pay off to heal with a militia needle and rep, instead of using a proto needle. Something like 25-50-75 or even just WP=HP healed. Same for damage, I don't like getting 25 WP for an assist when I dropped 95% of the damage. There is no suicide option when incapacitated, pressing O doesn't automatically kill you; it just takes you to the map to select your spawn point, and there is a lot of time between pressing O and selecting your next spawn point in which you can get revived when you don't want to be. 
 I know, that's why I want it (we actually had proper suicide once I believe)
 
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        |  Luther Mandrix
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      | Posted - 2014.05.29 07:52:00 -
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 How about pay us some isk for faction Warfare?
 Not getting paid is a bummer because not everyone is rich.
 Can we give LP to others like money?
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        |  Joseph Ridgeson
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      | Posted - 2014.05.29 07:55:00 -
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 A suicide option would be great; maybe exiting the "death screen" bleeds you out immediately. As it stands, you can actually open the map and spot for your team as they come in to needle you. Plus, NOTHING is more frustrating than dying, picking out the suit you are going to use after your death and being resurrected when you are completely unprepared.
 
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