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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1783
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Posted - 2014.05.28 15:26:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:"Fine" was maybe overstating it. When we get Alpha out, I will start the feedback loop for Hotfix Beta. I can imagine the main topics being vehicle TTK, assault suits, sidearms to name a few
Railguns and damage amps need nerfing overtime. Period.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1783
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Posted - 2014.05.28 21:46:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:XxGhazbaranxX wrote:I always thought vehicle battle would have been awesome if they where slugfests. a constant back and forth... They are actually. The problem these tankers are having is that they don't build their tanks for tank on tank fights. They build them to troll troops in ambush. So when a tank buster shows up they get hurt bad. If you're lucky enough to ever see two tank busters go at it, it's a treat!
Yeah sure. One extra railgun shot. Wow, so intense. Instead of 2 shotting, now it's 3 shotting! 
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1785
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Posted - 2014.05.29 14:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
DS's are support craft. ADS might be more combat-oriented, but it's still combat. It shouldn't be able to just smash a HAV by doing something that is that easy in such a short time.
And yet HAVs should be able to just smash a Dropship by doing something as easy as aiming an 80GJ Railgun or Large Missile Launcher at them in such a short time? 
Hey, don't put missile turrets alongside rails. Missiles are not easy to use. They have considerable flight time to account for. You have to react fast and have accurate judgement of how much you need to lead the dropship. I often end up missing my first 3-5 missiles, after which I must quickly compensate and even then there's no guarantee that the rest of the missiles will hit, allowing the dropship to just barely escape.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1787
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Posted - 2014.05.29 21:33:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Harpyja wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
DS's are support craft. ADS might be more combat-oriented, but it's still combat. It shouldn't be able to just smash a HAV by doing something that is that easy in such a short time.
And yet HAVs should be able to just smash a Dropship by doing something as easy as aiming an 80GJ Railgun or Large Missile Launcher at them in such a short time? Hey, don't put missile turrets alongside rails. Missiles are not easy to use. They have considerable flight time to account for. You have to react fast and have accurate judgement of how much you need to lead the dropship. I often end up missing my first 3-5 missiles, after which I must quickly compensate and even then there's no guarantee that the rest of the missiles will hit, allowing the dropship to just barely escape. 1: those are rockets, not missiles 2: that is true for DS's, but against HAV's, it's just sad.
You still need positioning against HAVs, especially shield ones (unless you're using a damage amp, which I'm not, though dage amps need some serious nerfing anyways).
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1792
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Posted - 2014.05.31 03:15:00 -
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1.6 was much closer to achieving balance than the current state of the game... 
Yeah sure back then I avoided Madrugars and forge guns like the devil itself and missile launchers sucked, but getting two-shotted by a railgun tank almost every match right now is even worse.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1806
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Posted - 2014.06.02 23:13:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:1) Not entirely sure why this thread continues to get bumped
2) Yes, I have to agree Double Damage mod and Triple Damage mod rails are frustrating but my incubus fits survives two shots. I know when I have been hit by it so I just get away and press the down button and the get to harassing the hell out of it. Obviously, in the dom maps there are some terrible players who just end up so deep in their own red it's disgusting.
3) If two tanks are brought out and then, suddenly, it's impossible to bring out another vehicle then that is because they control the map. It isn't imbalance. Everyone spawns in with plenty of time to summon a vehicle and press the down button and zoom in at the enemy redline and see what they are calling in.
4) I've re read through the forum and I'm having hard time finding any evidence that vehicle vs vehicle is so imbalanced. TTK is about the same as Inf vs Inf. In perspective, it makes sense that Vehicle vs Vehicle battles aren't prolonged. They are bad enough when two triple rep middy's with blasters are up against eachother.
If one team achieves vehicle dominance where the other team is either completely unable to bring in a vehicle then, in 90% of the cases I have witnessed, a sign of skill on their part and not a sign of imbalance.
Keep complaining though. I'm excited for my MLT missile tank to be able to be on better footing against expensive rail tanks.
2) My Python gets one-shotted....
3) No comment. Wait, actually, the overview map doesn't always show everything. Firstly, when something's being called in, you only see the RDV, and then sometimes the vehicle itself doesn't get rendered until a bit later. Also, the overview map has on multiple occasions showed that there were no enemy tanks on the field, but a few moments after I resume rolling on the ground an enemy tank suddenly appears out of nowhere, and I'm surprised as I did not see it while scanning the whole overview map.
4) The current TTK would be fine if it were between two opponents of equal SP investment (and maybe even ISK, as a proto turret deals much more damage). However, it's not fine when someone with 0 SP can fit up a glass cannon and 2-3 shot any tank out there.
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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