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jinn ko82
Deep Space Dangerous Logistics
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Posted - 2014.05.27 01:20:00 -
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so i have been waiting for those tanks that were removed around christmas time last year. i believe they said they were long range variants of the standards. anyone remember those? i never got a chance to use them as i started just days before they were removed |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Final Resolution.
1918
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Posted - 2014.05.27 01:26:00 -
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Marauders, removed longer back than that mate. They weren't exactly longer range tanks. They got some zoom bonus IIRC can got a damage bonus to Blaster (Gallente) and Missiles (Caldari). Not very good all things considered.
As such, I do not expect anything new to come into DUST as there are no content patches planned as a huge portion of the team is primary focused on Legion. Also, given the complete and total disgust everyone has with the Red Line Sniper, I do not expect a long range tank to be implemented ever again.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.05.27 01:38:00 -
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Nope, I believe he means the Enforcer types. Those were supposed to be longer range "glass cannons"
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Lynn Beck
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.05.27 04:20:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Marauders, removed longer back than that mate. They weren't exactly longer range tanks. They got some zoom bonus IIRC can got a damage bonus to Blaster (Gallente) and Missiles (Caldari). Not very good all things considered.
As such, I do not expect anything new to come into DUST as there are no content patches planned as a huge portion of the team is primary focused on Legion. Also, given the complete and total disgust everyone has with the Red Line Sniper, I do not expect a long range tank to be implemented ever again. You do know we could get proper Enforcers still, or heck, even a Marauder(if they do it right)
It's simply a reskinning of a tank with some sorta bonus applied.
Also, they were Enforcers, Marauders were quite simply Pro tanks, with a bonus to resists.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.05.27 06:37:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Marauders, removed longer back than that mate. They weren't exactly longer range tanks. They got some zoom bonus IIRC can got a damage bonus to Blaster (Gallente) and Missiles (Caldari). Not very good all things considered. You said "not very good" about MARAUDERS. Well done.
They had significant damage bonuses AND a larger damage reduction effect than tanks got on our shield and armour skills early in Uprising, while ALSO having more base HP than any other tank hull in the game. They also had better PG/CPU and slot layouts than other tanks. |
Nelo Angel0
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.27 07:42:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Marauders, removed longer back than that mate. They weren't exactly longer range tanks. They got some zoom bonus IIRC can got a damage bonus to Blaster (Gallente) and Missiles (Caldari). Not very good all things considered. You said "not very good" about MARAUDERS. Well done. They had significant damage bonuses AND a larger damage reduction effect than tanks got on our shield and armour skills early in Uprising, while ALSO having more base HP than any other tank hull in the game. They also had better PG/CPU and slot layouts than other tanks.
Don't forget that they were also pretty well balanced against pre uprising AV. Unless a team of swarms or officer FGs were shooting at those things don't expect to tickle it. Aside from the stats though each tank costed 1.2mill(?) so killing them was 1.2mills worth it. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.27 08:13:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote: well balanced against pre uprising AV
Unless a team of officer FGs were shooting at those things don't expect to tickle it..
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Final Resolution.
1922
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Posted - 2014.05.27 08:59:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Marauders, removed longer back than that mate. They weren't exactly longer range tanks. They got some zoom bonus IIRC can got a damage bonus to Blaster (Gallente) and Missiles (Caldari). Not very good all things considered. You said "not very good" about MARAUDERS. Well done. They had significant damage bonuses AND a larger damage reduction effect than tanks got on our shield and armour skills early in Uprising, while ALSO having more base HP than any other tank hull in the game. They also had better PG/CPU and slot layouts than other tanks. Ah, yes, I mixed the Enforcer and the Marauder. That's what I get for drinking a bunch of bleach every night.
I stand by Marauders being "not very good all things considered." Higher CPU/PG at 6 times the cost of a regular tank. Better slot layout consisted of an extra low for the Caldari and an extra high for the Gallente. For the Gallente armor version, 3 N-Type Hardeners, Polycrystalline plate, and the best repairer was probably the best armor tank. You could also fit in a heat sink and scanner the highs. Having more PG/CPU didn't let me create anything better compared to my Madrugar. Slightly higher base armor and shields didn't make up for the fact that it was far more expensive. I originally made my Surya but couldn't find a reason for it to exist compared to the cost effectiveness of my Madrugar.
For the Caldari one, that was not too bad. They were so PG starved that the extra low slot could mean more defensive numbers. A Power Diagnostic System would also result in higher shields. For that one, maybe the Sagaris had a larger advantage over the Gunnlogi. But still, the price of the thing was still a hard sticking point.
I will admit though: the additional damage on the Blaster was pretty nice; still not something I consider great in the ISK-SP cost to Effectiveness ratio.
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Yoma Carrim
Last VenDetta.
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Posted - 2014.05.27 10:03:00 -
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jinn ko82 wrote:so i have been waiting for those tanks that were removed around christmas time last year. i believe they said they were long range variants of the standards. anyone remember those? i never got a chance to use them as i started just days before they were removed I too would like to have my Falcon Enforcer tank back There is this little thing called a XT-201 Missile Launcher I would like to put on it
*now if we could get the Chakram back with a built in cloak that renders it stationary when active I would be in heaven*
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Sir Dukey
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.27 10:26:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Marauders, removed longer back than that mate. They weren't exactly longer range tanks. They got some zoom bonus IIRC can got a damage bonus to Blaster (Gallente) and Missiles (Caldari). Not very good all things considered.
As such, I do not expect anything new to come into DUST as there are no content patches planned as a huge portion of the team is primary focused on Legion. Also, given the complete and total disgust everyone has with the Red Line Sniper, I do not expect a long range tank to be implemented ever again.
marauders got defensive resistances and enforcers were the ones that got damage and range bonuses. |
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.05.27 11:14:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Marauders, removed longer back than that mate. They weren't exactly longer range tanks. They got some zoom bonus IIRC can got a damage bonus to Blaster (Gallente) and Missiles (Caldari). Not very good all things considered.
As such, I do not expect anything new to come into DUST as there are no content patches planned as a huge portion of the team is primary focused on Legion. Also, given the complete and total disgust everyone has with the Red Line Sniper, I do not expect a long range tank to be implemented ever again. marauders got defensive resistances and enforcers were the ones that got damage and range bonuses. Marauders had a damage bonus too.
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