DUST Search - the suicide epidemic

Atiim wrote:

Pvt Numnutz wrote:

I'm sure you would have some valid points if you weren't coming off like such a raging d-íck head. From what I can read here you listed a few of the things an assault dropship pilot can do and a lot of stuff any body can do with a milita ship. I don't see how it justifies keeping a broken mechanic that allows for easy instant kills.

I don't see where Micheal is raging. Would you like to point that out for me?

It's not a broken mechanic, as anybody with an Afterburner and/or situational awareness can evade the Kamikaze Dropship. The 3rd Person view allows you to see them before they hit you, so there really isn't an excuse as to why your being killed by them.

Pvt Numnutz wrote:

I think you mid understood my question, I didn't fight you in my milita suit, I didn't shoot or throw a grenade or strafe or anything that would typically happen in a fire fight, I just ran up to your proto suit and touched you, and you die, instantly. Would you be okay with that?

So your basically using a Shotgun?

I'd be perfectly fine with that, as it would only happen due to gross incompetence on my part. If I allow someone to get withing 0m of me, then I deserve to die. Especially if I saw them coming in the first place (which is true in terms Dropships, as your flying in a 3rd Person view)

Pvt Numnutz wrote:

As much as I would love to keep calling in assault dropships to fight these suicide dropships they cost 700k isk a pop and I just don't have the money to do that. You see my money is earned transporting troops, destroying installations, suppressing infantry, and destroying vehicles. I can't do any of that because a guy got in a mlt dropship and won't stop trying to hit me, so I don't get paid, and I probably loose another two games worth of isk.

Assault Dropships don't cost 700k unless you make them cost 700k. As demonstrated here, it is perfectly possible to fit aa Incubus that's far below 700k. I'm sure the price of a Python won't have that great of a price difference either.

So basically your complaining about people preventing you from doing your job?

Pvt Numnutz wrote:

Thank you for being so considerate and trying to look at the issue from both sides rather than just shouting and carrying on and pointing fingers and calling names. That's what leads to constructive ideas and serious issues being worked out....

Looking at the issues from both an Swarmer and an Incubus Pilot's point of view, there's no way I can possibly debate this without insulting you.


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m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 641	Posted - 2014.05.24 06:43:00 - [1] - Quote This is strategy. Don't complain because you can't out maneuver suicide dropships. Yes its a cheap tactic. Yes its been used in real life (Pearl Harbor). Yes its a viable tactic. New Eden is all about "Risk vs. Reward". They risk their suit and dropship to take out your suit and dropship. I commend people that will do whatever it takes to win a match. Whether its a cheap tactic or not, if they get the win, they get the win.
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 643	Posted - 2014.05.24 07:06:00 - [2] - Quote Atiim wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: I'm sure you would have some valid points if you weren't coming off like such a raging d-íck head. From what I can read here you listed a few of the things an assault dropship pilot can do and a lot of stuff any body can do with a milita ship. I don't see how it justifies keeping a broken mechanic that allows for easy instant kills. I don't see where Micheal is raging. Would you like to point that out for me? It's not a broken mechanic, as anybody with an Afterburner and/or situational awareness can evade the Kamikaze Dropship. The 3rd Person view allows you to see them before they hit you, so there really isn't an excuse as to why your being killed by them. Pvt Numnutz wrote: I think you mid understood my question, I didn't fight you in my milita suit, I didn't shoot or throw a grenade or strafe or anything that would typically happen in a fire fight, I just ran up to your proto suit and touched you, and you die, instantly. Would you be okay with that? So your basically using a Shotgun? I'd be perfectly fine with that, as it would only happen due to gross incompetence on my part. If I allow someone to get withing 0m of me, then I deserve to die. Especially if I saw them coming in the first place (which is true in terms Dropships, as your flying in a 3rd Person view) Pvt Numnutz wrote: As much as I would love to keep calling in assault dropships to fight these suicide dropships they cost 700k isk a pop and I just don't have the money to do that. You see my money is earned transporting troops, destroying installations, suppressing infantry, and destroying vehicles. I can't do any of that because a guy got in a mlt dropship and won't stop trying to hit me, so I don't get paid, and I probably loose another two games worth of isk. Assault Dropships don't cost 700k unless you make them cost 700k. As demonstrated here, it is perfectly possible to fit aa Incubus that's far below 700k. I'm sure the price of a Python won't have that great of a price difference either. So basically your complaining about people preventing you from doing your job? Pvt Numnutz wrote: Thank you for being so considerate and trying to look at the issue from both sides rather than just shouting and carrying on and pointing fingers and calling names. That's what leads to constructive ideas and serious issues being worked out.... Looking at the issues from both an Swarmer and an Incubus Pilot's point of view, there's no way I can possibly debate this without insulting you. His argument is absolutely pathetic. You should insult him. If not, I will.