DUST Search - if you ever NEEDED OP scouts and a cloak

mr musturd wrote:

Crimson ShieId wrote:

mr musturd wrote:

Crimson ShieId wrote:

I've been running a Min scout since Chrome, why would I avoid using something that brings new life to the game for me not seen since I got my Isukone Nova Knives? The cloaks are a way to add entertainment, not a crutch for the good scouts, everyone else that jumped on the bandwagon when 1.8 hit are just the FoTM chasers. Those who've been in the scouting game since before 1.8 will wreck the majority of the new scouts, cloak or no cloak.

So... no. I'm going to enjoy screwing with people using this new, interesting toy CCP gave me. Don't like it? Take it up with my Isukones. They love meeting new mercs. Blink

There was no minny scout in chrome Big smile

Was it a light frame then? I know I specced into some minmatar light suit shortly before Uprising was released, Nova Knives too. Straight

Got the thing because I thought I could use the coloration of the suit to avoid getting spotted because, well, it was brown, and so was everything else.

I believe the type2 scout had the same slot layout as the proto minny now but all chrome scouts were gallente

Nova Knives are magic~ -Inserts knife into nearest merc's spinal column- And now, so are you! Bask in the magics!

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CrotchGrab 360 Commando Perkone Caldari State 1508	Posted - 2014.05.23 16:59:00 - [1] - Quote you're doing it wrong. all this time I have been running a militia minmatar frame with 200hp and I laugh at proto scouts. If the crutch is removed then good, really I think it's just being balanced but people don't want that, they want to abuse whatever's OP and hope the person on the other team isn't using it too! Give the light frames some love Militia minmatar light frame CRG 3 shotgun 2x complex kinectic catalysers 10.38m/s sprint speed 13,000 ISK The caldari light frame is more expensive at 25K ISK but with 2x complex and 1x enhanced shield extender you can get 334hp shield I think. The gallente militia light frame is a beast, I have a few setups with that one, the one with 311armour is very fast, the one with 404 armour can still jump over railings and the one with 533 armour is a bit pointless. Gallente militia light frame K5 specialist light frame use a mixture of ferroscale and standard plates to your liking 18-20K ISK depending on how much armour you have. ditch the proto cloaks and GET GOOD. DUST VIDEOS
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp Covert Intervention 535	Posted - 2014.05.23 17:03:00 - [2] - Quote I run galente light frames with three standard reactives in the lows, an assault rifle, and a ion pistol -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 5489	Posted - 2014.05.23 17:13:00 - [3] - Quote Run a minmatar scout prior to 1.8 in a PC match and get back to me about "getting gud." Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Tectonic Fusion 1670	Posted - 2014.05.23 17:24:00 - [4] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Run a minmatar scout prior to 1.8 in a PC match and get back to me about "getting gud." I ran a mlt minni scout for anti vehicle warefare back in 1.7 :p
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1905	Posted - 2014.05.23 19:34:00 - [5] - Quote Let me go out on a limb here: By "all this time..." you've been running scouts Do you mean: in "1.8", as your builds reflect? Where scouts are OP, and light frames are.... Still way better than medium frames? Still better base precision, range, dampening, CPU & PG than their 1.7 (and before) light frame and scout counterparts. But I do agree that if you need scouts in their current form (well, Gal/Cal anyway) to do well, then you're in need of help. Double posting like a Kaiser.
Eko Sol Strange Playings 368	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:06:00 - [6] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Run a minmatar scout prior to 1.8 in a PC match and get back to me about "getting gud." I have seen your vids. You're good. I think all of the above average or better players run MLT fits with some success. I run the Gal MLT Light Suit as well. MLT Damage mod, 3 MLT Armor Plates, LW, SA, nade, Hive The Cloak was a win button for terrible players. It gave bad players with bad habits a chance at beating skilled players on a bad day. I can't tell you how many times some Adv Gal scout got past my 2 complex precision enhancers on my min scout. Now, no freebies. Gal's have to put the dampener on and they can't rely on a proto cloak to stay out of people tacnet. 35% is not enough to keep off people's tacnet anymore. It will have to be the full 60% to have a chance against everyone but Cal Scouts. Cal Scouts have to fit 2 complex dampeners to stay off the tacnet of any other scout with one complex precision enhancer. I really like this. All of that being said, I rely on my cloak to get past cal scouts guarding tanks from my RE's. I now have been nerfed in AV and have to figure something out. But these changes actually buff assaults a bit. Because of this "nerf", Assaults will have a better role on the field. In addition, the real thing that needed to happen was taking away one equipment slot in addition to everything else. PSN is "Ekopalm" I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
TechMechMeds KLEENEX INC. 3430	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:12:00 - [7] - Quote Im pretty sure that the new hotfix will eliminate the scrubs. Proper scouts need not worry. Eve Legion FTW!
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 800	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:16:00 - [8] - Quote ive been running my mlt gal light frame with a bk 42 lately. 87 shield 349 armor. 2 mlt plates and mlt kin cat with mlt light dmg mod. no eq couldnt fit one as pg/cpu is basically maxed out. who also have an smg on it as will. id switch between mlt shotgun and bk42 on the fit though. its weaker than my mlt starter fits which have 356 armor and 150 shields. but a little faster. and the acr has been some what usefull to me. though it clearly has its limitations. almost every other light frame ive come across/killed. has been using a cloak. it almost seems like this. cloaked scout: hah im cloaked! im invisible and cant be seen now!. any1 whos smart:. uhhh i can see u right there u know.(fires gun killing cloaked scout). dust 514 shall be eternal. pve for dust 514. oh look. FF somehow made dust better!.
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 504	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:20:00 - [9] - Quote I have a 4.5k Dren scout with dren shotgun, a toxin, and couple of BPOs and two kincats (one enhanced one basic). I wreck face with that more than my proto scout. XD "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
knight of 6 Heaven's Lost Property 1967	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:51:00 - [10] - Quote what do you mean by "NEEDED OP scout"? I've run a Gallente scout since closed beta, scouts are what i do. I'm OP because I'm OP not because of the suit. 160s/240a ish ADV gallente scout { high: complex shield etender basic light damage mod low: basic range extender complex armor rep complex ferroscale plate equip: basic cloak primary: ADV rail rifle } "ugghh fotm user uses cloak" yea, so what? It is a tool, I use it to cross open ground and take tighter flanking routes. my gif is gone, DINKLEBURG!! Ko6, scout

IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 444	Posted - 2014.05.23 21:53:00 - [11] - Quote GODDAMMIT ***** BOLLOX ARSE ** I 'm so sad DUST died coz this thread makes me wanna wreck face with a pre 1.8 scout [edit] or fukkit a post 1.8 scout :D You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 4864	Posted - 2014.05.23 22:33:00 - [12] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: you're doing it wrong. all this time I have been running a militia minmatar frame with 200hp and I laugh at proto scouts. If the crutch is removed then good, really I think it's just being balanced but people don't want that, they want to abuse whatever's OP and hope the person on the other team isn't using it too! Give the light frames some love Militia minmatar light frame CRG 3 shotgun 2x complex kinectic catalysers 10.38m/s sprint speed 13,000 ISK The caldari light frame is more expensive at 25K ISK but with 2x complex and 1x enhanced shield extender you can get 334hp shield I think. The gallente militia light frame is a beast, I have a few setups with that one, the one with 311armour is very fast, the one with 404 armour can still jump over railings and the one with 533 armour is a bit pointless. Gallente militia light frame K5 specialist light frame use a mixture of ferroscale and standard plates to your liking 18-20K ISK depending on how much armour you have. ditch the proto cloaks and GET GOOD. You would die in PC. Pubs? Yeah, that fit would kick ass. PC? Scanned scout is dead scout. Headed to Destiny, To Hell with CCP PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
Onesimus Tarsus Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 2027	Posted - 2014.05.23 22:47:00 - [13] - Quote Exclusive AmScout since 1.8 dropped, and about 10 minutes in a cloak. Took a bath and got over that garbage. Went back to ScrP and SMG shredding with old-fashioned sneaky and a Valdez load of uplinks. Real scout since day 1. Battlefield 1943. Running since 2009. I'm diskinetic, BTW. Birth, growth, decline, death.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 464	Posted - 2014.05.23 23:12:00 - [14] - Quote I've been running a Min scout since Chrome, why would I avoid using something that brings new life to the game for me not seen since I got my Isukone Nova Knives? The cloaks are a way to add entertainment, not a crutch for the good scouts, everyone else that jumped on the bandwagon when 1.8 hit are just the FoTM chasers. Those who've been in the scouting game since before 1.8 will wreck the majority of the new scouts, cloak or no cloak. So... no. I'm going to enjoy screwing with people using this new, interesting toy CCP gave me. Don't like it? Take it up with my Isukones. They love meeting new mercs. Nova Knives are magic~ Inserts knife into nearest merc's spinal column And now, so are you! Bask in the magics!
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 448	Posted - 2014.05.23 23:22:00 - [15] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: I've been running a Min scout since Chrome, why would I avoid using something that brings new life to the game for me not seen since I got my Isukone Nova Knives? The cloaks are a way to add entertainment, not a crutch for the good scouts, everyone else that jumped on the bandwagon when 1.8 hit are just the FoTM chasers. Those who've been in the scouting game since before 1.8 will wreck the majority of the new scouts, cloak or no cloak. So... no. I'm going to enjoy screwing with people using this new, interesting toy CCP gave me. Don't like it? Take it up with my Isukones. They love meeting new mercs. There was no minny scout in chrome
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 290	Posted - 2014.05.23 23:27:00 - [16] - Quote Only have 2 non proto scout suit (most of my protos have cloak) with an adv cloak, and its ewar-ish( second suit's Lows have armor reps) Basically when i run the cloak im already(not really to cal scouts or ewar tanks) hard to find
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 464	Posted - 2014.05.23 23:30:00 - [17] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: I've been running a Min scout since Chrome, why would I avoid using something that brings new life to the game for me not seen since I got my Isukone Nova Knives? The cloaks are a way to add entertainment, not a crutch for the good scouts, everyone else that jumped on the bandwagon when 1.8 hit are just the FoTM chasers. Those who've been in the scouting game since before 1.8 will wreck the majority of the new scouts, cloak or no cloak. So... no. I'm going to enjoy screwing with people using this new, interesting toy CCP gave me. Don't like it? Take it up with my Isukones. They love meeting new mercs. There was no minny scout in chrome Was it a light frame then? I know I specced into some minmatar light suit shortly before Uprising was released, Nova Knives too. Got the thing because I thought I could use the coloration of the suit to avoid getting spotted because, well, it was brown, and so was everything else. Nova Knives are magic~ -Inserts knife into nearest merc's spinal column- And now, so are you! Bask in the magics!
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 448	Posted - 2014.05.23 23:51:00 - [18] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: mr musturd wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: I've been running a Min scout since Chrome, why would I avoid using something that brings new life to the game for me not seen since I got my Isukone Nova Knives? The cloaks are a way to add entertainment, not a crutch for the good scouts, everyone else that jumped on the bandwagon when 1.8 hit are just the FoTM chasers. Those who've been in the scouting game since before 1.8 will wreck the majority of the new scouts, cloak or no cloak. So... no. I'm going to enjoy screwing with people using this new, interesting toy CCP gave me. Don't like it? Take it up with my Isukones. They love meeting new mercs. There was no minny scout in chrome Was it a light frame then? I know I specced into some minmatar light suit shortly before Uprising was released, Nova Knives too. Got the thing because I thought I could use the coloration of the suit to avoid getting spotted because, well, it was brown, and so was everything else. I believe the type2 scout had the same slot layout as the proto minny now but all chrome scouts were gallente
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2535	Posted - 2014.05.24 00:15:00 - [19] - Quote I have a 989 HP Thale's wielding Quafe Scout gk.0 that never dies! ..... I'm a bad player...
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 465	Posted - 2014.05.24 01:51:00 - [20] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: mr musturd wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: I've been running a Min scout since Chrome, why would I avoid using something that brings new life to the game for me not seen since I got my Isukone Nova Knives? The cloaks are a way to add entertainment, not a crutch for the good scouts, everyone else that jumped on the bandwagon when 1.8 hit are just the FoTM chasers. Those who've been in the scouting game since before 1.8 will wreck the majority of the new scouts, cloak or no cloak. So... no. I'm going to enjoy screwing with people using this new, interesting toy CCP gave me. Don't like it? Take it up with my Isukones. They love meeting new mercs. There was no minny scout in chrome Was it a light frame then? I know I specced into some minmatar light suit shortly before Uprising was released, Nova Knives too. Got the thing because I thought I could use the coloration of the suit to avoid getting spotted because, well, it was brown, and so was everything else. I believe the type2 scout had the same slot layout as the proto minny now but all chrome scouts were gallente I could have sworn it was Minmatar... Hm... Brown suit, specifically remember my thoughts on camouflage when I specced into the thing... Ugh. I hate my memory sometimes. Nova Knives are magic~ -Inserts knife into nearest merc's spinal column- And now, so are you! Bask in the magics!

THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 1168	Posted - 2014.05.24 02:27:00 - [21] - Quote lol scouts. gallente heavy says hi. And when alpha comes out.... 40 armor rep per sec with 656 armor gallente heavy says hi. Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3 Nyain SanGäó (rated ® for rape) is currently accepting hatemails.
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1590	Posted - 2014.05.24 06:33:00 - [22] - Quote EWAR scouts FTW! None of my fits have over 300ehp. I haven't even skilled into armor plates. But I and my team can see ever one of you from 60+ m away. :D
PARKOUR PRACTIONER The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 1552	Posted - 2014.05.24 06:42:00 - [23] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: what do you mean by "NEEDED OP scout"? I've run a Gallente scout since closed beta, scouts are what i do. I'm OP because I'm OP not because of the suit.. That rhymed. You do that on purpose? PSN SIL4NTCHAOZZ 10.4mil SP and can PC with the big boys Woooooo \m/ Minja Knifer AKA The Chef <===\|=
Izlare Lenix Arrogance. Dark Taboo 593	Posted - 2014.05.24 08:24:00 - [24] - Quote The only reason that fit works is because hardly anyone uses active scanners anymore. With the removal of the cloak dampining every suit but the gal scout can be scanned easier again. This means more gal logis with multiple scanners will be used, " you have been scanned" will be burned into all of our tvs again and this suit you use will become much less effective. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.


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