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Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 502	Posted - 2014.05.23 13:14:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: In all fairness, we are discussing completely eliminating the restocking of all grenades by nanohives, this is the moderated proposal. (We would keep them for supply depots) Please don't. As I said before, this will be a huge nerf to MD users. The Flux MD combo, which is actually viable against the current Heavy Frame onslaught, will become a Great White Buffalo. Might as well grab a rifle like 90% of Dusters... Also, I'm suprised no one has brought this up yet. What are the new CPU / PG values for Militia Armor Plates and BPO's? Currently they are 15 CPU, 3PG. New Basic Plates are becoming 9 CPU, 3 PG. Are you looking at increasing Mlitia Plates to something crazy like 20CPU and 5 PG? I don't see the proposed Min Commando speed nerf in your document either. Thanks for the numbers, they provide us with sustenance, NOM NOM!!!
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 512	Posted - 2014.05.23 16:30:00 - [2] - Quote Militia Armor Plate and BPO numbers please?
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 516	Posted - 2014.05.25 03:19:00 - [3] - Quote Still never saw the numbers for Militia Plates and BPO's. They are currently at 15 CPU 2 PG. Enhanced Plates really should be back to 5%, but hey, any increase to speed penalty is good at this point. Small steps, right?
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 526	Posted - 2014.05.30 06:08:00 - [4] - Quote You finally add the Militia Plate / BPO values, and they're as CPU / PG intensive as Enhanced Plates?!?! No Militia item in the game costs as much as it's advanced tier! Put down the pipe and please re-evaluate this... What possible reason is there for a 200% increase to the PG requirements?
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 526	Posted - 2014.05.30 14:14:00 - [5] - Quote Firbolg Barun wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: You finally add the Militia Plate / BPO values, and they're as CPU / PG intensive as Enhanced Plates?!?! No Militia item in the game costs as much as it's advanced tier! Put down the pipe and please re-evaluate this... What possible reason is there for a 200% increase to the PG requirements? Because basic plates were OP for a very long time. While that may be true, Basic Plates received both a buff and a nerf. They require 2 more PG, and 1 less CPU. Enhanced Plates are unchanged. Militia Plates get an increase of 3 CPU and 4PG, while almost all plates received some sort of nerf and buff, the Militia Plates got taken out back behind the woodshed. If you can fit a militia plate, why on earth wouldn't you use the enhanced version now? So much for fitting that BPO anymore...
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 526	Posted - 2014.05.30 15:41:00 - [6] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I believe the main rule of militia gear is that its stats are the same as standard and the fitting is 50% worse than standard. That is the price of the zero skill level requirement of militia gear, encouraging you to try out gear and then skill into it. If you have been playing with a militia plate for all this time, obviously it was fundamentally broken. I agree. Basic plates have cost way too little and provided way too much in return for a long time. However, you're not even in the ballpark of 50% higher. It's a flat 200% hike across the board. Heaven forbid that I have maxed my core skills, so that I CAN fit cheaper and more CPU / PG intensive items AND still be efficient in combat. I use a militia repair tool on some of my fits as well. With my Min Logi bonus, it works just as good as an advanced repper. Is that fundamentally broken too?
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 526	Posted - 2014.05.30 16:26:00 - [7] - Quote While we're waxing philosophical on the topic of Militia Plates, I want to stress that it's not like I'm stacking them. I use one, on SOME of my fits (not all), because I can fit it, and the rest of my slots are a mix of biotics, codebreakers, and ferro & reactive (before they become cool with Alpha). If Militia items are supposed to be 50% higher in fitting cost, shouldn't the CPU stay the same (15) and the PG just get bumped from 2 (current) to 6 (double the Alpha Basic Plate)? Wouldn't that be more in line with how the tiers flow, since you didn't touch Enhanced plates at all?
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 526	Posted - 2014.05.30 18:23:00 - [8] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Booby Tuesdays wrote: While we're waxing philosophical on the topic of Militia Plates, I want to stress that it's not like I'm stacking them. I use one, on SOME of my fits (not all), because I can fit it, and the rest of my slots are a mix of biotics, codebreakers, and ferro & reactive (before they become cool with Alpha). If Militia items are supposed to be 50% higher in fitting cost, shouldn't the CPU stay the same (15) and the PG just get bumped from 2 (current) to 6 (double the Alpha Basic Plate)? Wouldn't that be more in line with how the tiers flow, since you didn't touch Enhanced plates at all? Why are we discussing militia plates, skilling into basic costs 12k SP and should be the first thing a new player buys. We are discussing them because over the course of 1,000 deaths, a new player would have saved almost 1 million ISK. 1 million ISK to a new player is huge. I have enough money to never run Militia, but I choose to run it because it's cheaper, and my Core Skills are maxed so I can fit it as well. Nerfing Militia Plates this hard is only hurting new players. It's not hurting me, I'll just run Basic since I have the money, but it hurts players not wealthy from broken PC mechanics the most.
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 527	Posted - 2014.05.30 22:01:00 - [9] - Quote voidfaction wrote: [ How much would they save if they used Starter Fits? Starter fits are FREE. No way to go isk negative. STD gear is still cheap and hard to go isk negative unless you just really suck. Risk vs Reward - Forcing people to risk isk to have advantages is part of the game. I keep my wallet under 1 million at all times. spend all isk as soon as I get it. If I want to save isk I run what is the cheapest which in return is the weakest. I personally think they should make all militia mods cpu/pg = to the advanced version but make all the stats = to std. std cost in both ISK and SP is so cheap and should always be the goto mod not militia. What on earth are you buying if you always keep your wallet under 1 mil? An average player can make upwards of 1 million ISK a day from pubs alone...

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