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Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 372	Posted - 2014.05.21 18:21:00 - [1] - Quote Everyone seems to think Dust is going to do sooo well on PC vs PS3, er, i mean LEGION (DUST 2.0). When in fact the reason that Dust failed as a FREE TOP DOWNLOADED PS3 game was your NPE was SH!T and no one wanted to keep playing. Here is the stats on Dark Souls 2, which certainly have lower graphic settings then your new turd burger game http://farfire.darksoulsii.com/pc/players/index.html PS3 players outnumber PC OVER 3 to 1. I have no stake in this game, I quit a while ago, but this back and forth debate over PC draws in more players is stupid, look at the server stats of any other multi-platform game out there. Make a man a fire and he will be warm for a night, set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 624	Posted - 2014.05.21 18:24:00 - [2] - Quote ib4 pcmaster race n@zis
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 912	Posted - 2014.05.21 18:30:00 - [3] - Quote Ignoring all the other stuff like hit detection and relative balance if they do not fix: Time it takes to get boots down in a PvP battle Matchmaking Spawning in after your first death Then battles are going to be awful for the pc elite. Public Relations - tick tick BOOM. PSN: CallOfTheDark
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 2975	Posted - 2014.05.21 18:37:00 - [4] - Quote Ah... the tears of entitled console players. Never gets old.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 372	Posted - 2014.05.21 18:45:00 - [5] - Quote Well I don't know what you are getting at, I have a fine time playing on both systems, I like not bothering my wife when I am on my computer with its tiny little screen and I like relaxing playing with dolby 5.1 and a 51 plasma. I am just saying all these threads about PC gets more players than consoles are absolutely wrong. And it doesn't matter what platform you are using, I can hack a 360 security sector and use a SSD, or put an SSD in a PS3, or use SSD on my computer, get a hardline t1 and there will always be an advantage. It's not like they have a gate countdown timer on Pub matches. After I switched out to a SSD Drive; I was at the first objective hacking it before the rest of my team had spawned. Make a man a fire and he will be warm for a night, set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1877	Posted - 2014.05.21 18:47:00 - [6] - Quote It has nothing to do with number of players and not much to do with anything like PC > Console or the like. I really don't think CCP every really wanted to do a console game. It is cool, hip, sexy to get all the gaming press like "We are linking a console FPS and a PC MMO together!" but then you actually have to do it. I don't think CCP every stopped to think "can we do this?" I am sure they stopped to say "Can the PS3 handle this?" which they said yes to but to the idea of if they had the ability to make DUST what was promised to be on the PS3? I don't think that was ever asked. For this game (DUST/Legion/whatever it ends up being called), I do see it drawing more people on the PC. There are probably half a million EVE subscribers. Let's say that it works out to 200,000 people. If it had been on the PC from the start, every one of them would have least made a character and played it. The problem with going on the PS3 for DUST, which is an extremely niche environment, is that the niche that would most enjoy it (people interested in New Eden) is separated from the game. The EVE forums were abuzz with "I would love to play DUST but I don't have a PS3" when it was first announced. To people uninterested in the New Eden part, the game offered nothing other than a Call of Duty / Battlefield arcade shooter play that is an objectively worse experience than those games. The game play is not as smooth, the graphics are not as polished, the frame rate drops for no reason, massive lag issues, online only, and is not nearly as balanced as those games. That is pretty much the fate of any game that wants to be a COD/BF/WoW clone; "why play the clone when I can play the original that is generally better?" That isn't a failing of the PS3; that's a failing of CCP to not utilize the unique selling point of the game (New Eden) in a way that would set it apart from COD/BF. Maybe CCP couldn't get DUST to work on the PS3 and maybe PC is the only chance to get DUST as the idea that we all wanted. Now that DUST is crying in the crib with soiled diapers CCP is wishing that it would have just never had us. It doesn't matter really; CCP still screwed up with letting DUST come to full term before just saying "we gotta do it on the PC." "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 2975	Posted - 2014.05.21 18:48:00 - [7] - Quote Yeah beats me man, PC has a huge F2P market but its a little silly to expect it will attract more players necessarily. It's not why they are doing it though. They essentially said, though not directly, that the PC port is so they can make a better game. CCP makes PC games, and they will make a better version of legion on the PC than they could on the PS4. I truly believe that. When the time is right they can create a PS4 client and PS4 players will have a fairly polished game to come into.
pegasis prime PROTO WOLVES 1722	Posted - 2014.05.21 18:48:00 - [8] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Ah... the tears of entitled console players. Never gets old. No genuine anger from folks who invested cash in this game based on CCP's 10 year road map for the Consol market . I hope their 10 year plan included receiving dog **** in the mail for tthe next 8 weeks. Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 2976	Posted - 2014.05.21 18:54:00 - [9] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Ah... the tears of entitled console players. Never gets old. No genuine anger from folks who invested cash in this game based on CCP's 10 year road map for the Consol market . I hope their 10 year plan included receiving dog **** in the mail for tthe next 8 weeks. Its a free to play game. Any money spent was spent voluntarily to improve the user's Dust experience. that's pretty much it. If you only spent money on Dust due to speculation of its future. Then you gambled on it and that gamble didn't come through. You can be angry all you want about it but the fact is, its your own fault (you being figurative) for spending money on a game you didn't enjoy today and you only have yourself to blame for not playing it on PC. Everyone has the ability to purchase and/or build a gaming PC. If you don't want to play on PC, that's not CCPs fault. Wait for the PS4 port if that is what you want to do.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 3952	Posted - 2014.05.21 19:03:00 - [10] - Quote They are not moving to PC because of a bigger player base they are moving because they can do more for the game on the PC Try EVE for free Resub to EVE with exciting account

CharacterNameWasTaken Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1	Posted - 2014.05.21 19:06:00 - [11] - Quote What Zdub said exatly what ive been saying CCP has not really worked on a console. Yes EVE has alot of people that love it but that is a PC game. CCP does pc games.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 1038	Posted - 2014.05.21 20:02:00 - [12] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: pegasis prime wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Ah... the tears of entitled console players. Never gets old. No genuine anger from folks who invested cash in this game based on CCP's 10 year road map for the Consol market . I hope their 10 year plan included receiving dog **** in the mail for tthe next 8 weeks. Its a free to play game. Any money spent was spent voluntarily to improve the user's Dust experience. that's pretty much it. If you only spent money on Dust due to speculation of its future. Then you gambled on it and that gamble didn't come through. You can be angry all you want about it but the fact is, its your own fault (you being figurative) for spending money on a game you didn't enjoy today and you only have yourself to blame for not playing it on PC. Everyone has the ability to purchase and/or build a gaming PC. If you don't want to play on PC, that's not CCPs fault. Wait for the PS4 port if that is what you want to do (or don't play it at all, no one is forcing you to). Anyone can purchase expensive hookers as well. There are plenty of solid reasons why some people wouldnt.
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1268	Posted - 2014.05.21 20:15:00 - [13] - Quote Regardless of the amount of players on either system CCP has more players on PC. The eve community will try legion and I would imagine there will be a lot of alt-tabing. So legions population will grow from what it had on dust day 1. In fact a lot of the new berries might be eve players trying to get a head start for legion.
xAckie Ghost. Mob 426	Posted - 2014.05.21 20:19:00 - [14] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Yeah beats me man, PC has a huge F2P market but its a little silly to expect it will attract more players necessarily. It's not why they are doing it though. They essentially said, though not directly, that the PC port is so they can make a better game. CCP makes PC games, and they will make a better version of legion on the PC than they could on the PS4. I truly believe that. When the time is right they can create a PS4 client and PS4 players will have a fairly polished game to come into. The fundamental 'problems' with the game are design choices not platform choices. Having gone through the experience of the last 2 years, I think they seem more clued up on what 'makes an FPS work' with their recent comments of 'pace, action' and redesign of the skill tree. but who knows
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 355	Posted - 2014.05.21 20:27:00 - [15] - Quote Console Master Race. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny = Biomass Console Master Race
PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 149	Posted - 2014.05.21 20:32:00 - [16] - Quote CCP vision merge console and PC market = translated to horrible eve tards getting owned by console fps players see nayin sayin and all the elite corps who's members came from MAG CCP new vision consolidate new Eden to PC = same evetards getting owned by the 15 yo neckbeards that cheat using rediculas hacks aka the PC fps experience on every other PC game you already don't play. Face if your play eve and play dust/legion it's because you suck at fps that experience will only get worse on the PC, the only difference is instead of getting owned by someone with better reflex you be getting owned by someone with better macros on the kb/m. #Pcmasterraceftw smh Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 161	Posted - 2014.05.21 21:48:00 - [17] - Quote PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: CCP vision merge console and PC market = translated to horrible eve tards getting owned by console fps players see nayin sayin and all the elite corps who's members came from MAG CCP new vision consolidate new Eden to PC = same evetards getting owned by the 15 yo neckbeards that cheat using rediculas hacks aka the PC fps experience on every other PC game you already don't play. Face if your play eve and play dust/legion it's because you suck at fps that experience will only get worse on the PC, the only difference is instead of getting owned by someone with better reflex you be getting owned by someone with better macros on the kb/m. #Pcmasterraceftw smh This gotta be one of the worst posts I ever saw.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 3954	Posted - 2014.05.21 21:54:00 - [18] - Quote PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: CCP vision merge console and PC market = translated to horrible eve tards getting owned by console fps players see nayin sayin and all the elite corps who's members came from MAG CCP new vision consolidate new Eden to PC = same evetards getting owned by the 15 yo neckbeards that cheat using rediculas hacks aka the PC fps experience on every other PC game you already don't play. Face if your play eve and play dust/legion it's because you suck at fps that experience will only get worse on the PC, the only difference is instead of getting owned by someone with better reflex you be getting owned by someone with better macros on the kb/m. #Pcmasterraceftw smh I play both and do pretty well in both... Try EVE for free Resub to EVE with exciting account
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 69	Posted - 2014.05.21 22:07:00 - [19] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: PR0FESSOR CHAOS wrote: CCP vision merge console and PC market = translated to horrible eve tards getting owned by console fps players see nayin sayin and all the elite corps who's members came from MAG CCP new vision consolidate new Eden to PC = same evetards getting owned by the 15 yo neckbeards that cheat using rediculas hacks aka the PC fps experience on every other PC game you already don't play. Face if your play eve and play dust/legion it's because you suck at fps that experience will only get worse on the PC, the only difference is instead of getting owned by someone with better reflex you be getting owned by someone with better macros on the kb/m. #Pcmasterraceftw smh I play both and do pretty well in both... Playing both atm and, well, it's actually much more competitive on PS3. Much more fair, if you want. But seriously, CCP didn't listen to its player base when it comes to slight nerfs/buffs, why should they listen now? It's a wrong decision, game-community wise, I think nobody can argue on that. And don't come here saying that the majority of the actual community will also play Legion on PC. It's just not. You may use the forums and notice that is almost 50% - 50%, but the truth is even sadder. All the others already left/does not speak english/don't care to post their opinions here in GD. After all, what did you expect with all those former-MAG clans flocking here on Dust? They/We are all console players.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom 1960	Posted - 2014.05.21 22:13:00 - [20] - Quote Aszazel wrote: Everyone seems to think Dust is going to do sooo well on PC vs PS3, er, i mean LEGION (DUST 2.0). When in fact the reason that Dust failed as a FREE TOP DOWNLOADED PS3 game was your NPE was SH!T and no one wanted to keep playing. Here is the stats on Dark Souls 2, which certainly have lower graphic settings then your new turd burger game http://farfire.darksoulsii.com/pc/players/index.html PS3 players outnumber PC OVER 3 to 1. I have no stake in this game, I quit a while ago, but this back and forth debate over PC draws in more players is stupid, look at the server stats of any other multi-platform game out there. "more players" is the refrain of a clueless developer. if their game was looking for more players, they'd make it more playable. for anyone who doesn't know Eternal Crusade is like mag with an even more robust leadership tree. keep it on your radar. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.

anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 83	Posted - 2014.05.21 22:35:00 - [21] - Quote It will be funny if they draw people away from eve and lose subscriptions due to the dust 514 ripoff. Make CCP lose more money :) hahahah. Thats all I can see happening. Lots of people on eve thats had enough of the same crap will eventually jump on and forget paying that subscription. Waiting for CCP's downfall will be ever so sweet :) Fully sick Anaboop trading card
End is Near Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 56	Posted - 2014.05.22 00:55:00 - [22] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Regardless of the amount of players on either system CCP has more players on PC. The eve community will try legion and I would imagine there will be a lot of alt-tabing. So legions population will grow from what it had on dust day 1. In fact a lot of the new berries might be eve players trying to get a head start for legion. That's where your WRONG! Eve players may show an interest 'at first'. There is NO WAY they can maintain both accounts at once. I would NOT be wasting my time on a FREE game when im paying 20 bucks a month. I find it SOOOOO funny how bad Eve players crack on dust. Yet they are ALL running over here now. Im enjoy protostomping the fk out of em. You should read their QQ posts on Eve. 'Dust is dumb' 'why am I being killed so quick?' 'waaaaa waaaaa waaaa' LMAO GG scrubs. Even the other eve players where cracking on them.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1881	Posted - 2014.05.22 01:06:00 - [23] - Quote End is Near wrote: That's where your WRONG! Eve players may show an interest 'at first'. There is NO WAY they can maintain both accounts at once. I would NOT be wasting my time on a FREE game when im paying 20 bucks a month. I find it SOOOOO funny how bad Eve players crack on dust. Yet they are ALL running over here now. Im enjoy protostomping the fk out of em. You should read their QQ posts on Eve. 'Dust is dumb' 'why am I being killed so quick?' 'waaaaa waaaaa waaaa' LMAO GG scrubs. Even the other eve players where cracking on them. People may subscribe to Xbox Live and still play off line. People may have a subscription to World of Warcraft yet still play League of Legends. Hell, someone could have a 15 dollar a month subscription to 'adult websites' but they probably don't spend all days ogling at the website's content. Being subscribed to a monthly game bit doesn't mean that you have to devote your life to it. The games are quite different. The shtick with having the same name might work nicely for many people that like to do gang PvP so they can play a game without having to check every 90 seconds to see if their corp needs them. Whether or not someone does poorly in this game has nothing to do with being an 'EVE player.' That is like saying "Jon is a terrible healer. What do you expect; he is a chess player." The person may be familiar or unfamiliar with the genre but 'EVE player' really isn't a term that you can use to describe someone. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 755	Posted - 2014.05.22 01:08:00 - [24] - Quote CharacterNameWasTaken wrote: What Zdub said exatly what ive been saying CCP has not really worked on a console. Yes EVE has alot of people that love it but that is a PC game. CCP does pc games. More specifically ccp does A pc game. So far every other game they have done has also been shut down. Including the attempt to bring Eve to linux. Pretty sad track record really. IF i was a betting man and CCP was on the stock market i would invest, but would sell shortly after initial announcement on new platforms and games and such as the price likely goes up. Mostly because given the chance so far everything other than EVE on the PC ends up being flushed.


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