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RayRay James
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.22 16:02:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :) Might be worth finally doing a Double ISK payout Event. For me and vet's like me it wouldnt matter, how i could spend over 2 bil personally before this game ends is beyond me. But most who didnt partake in PC since it's implementation are not in similar boats. I Think it would improve competition on the battlefield atleast until the ISK get's used up. P.S. You Pair an Experience event(Possibly an ISK) with Omega Boosters, And possibly add Heavy Weapon Variants... And watch Revenues flow back into DUST.
2 BILLION ISK??? In Dust??? How the, what the.....
[jealous]
I'm going straight broke just trying to become a competent pilot
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
140
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Posted - 2014.05.22 16:05:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Bethhy wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :) Might be worth finally doing a Double ISK payout Event. For me and vet's like me it wouldnt matter, how i could spend over 2 bil personally before this game ends is beyond me. But most who didnt partake in PC since it's implementation are not in similar boats. I Think it would improve competition on the battlefield atleast until the ISK get's used up. P.S. You Pair an Experience event(Possibly an ISK) with Omega Boosters, And possibly add Heavy Weapon Variants... And watch Revenues flow back into DUST. 2 BILLION ISK??? In Dust??? How the, what the..... [jealous] I'm going straight broke just trying to become a competent pilot
I thought I had done well with 205k, but 2 billion is absurd. How well does PC pay out? |
Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
63
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Posted - 2014.05.22 16:43:00 -
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Thank you for a new event, please keep them coming through. along with the rewards in the "news" letter.
I realise that ccp are up to things concerning legion but there is still a potential long time before that comes out or the ps3 player base completely leaves for ps4, and it would be nice to keep getting incentive to stay on and to keep others staying put.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2114
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Posted - 2014.05.22 16:46:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :) It's a pity the tools to allow for a less taxing and more consistant set of community events aren't finished. I hope completing them is not so deeply resource intensive as to be totally off the table as a consideration moving forward.
Be that as it may, I'm sure the community would rather have more events even in somewhat limited scope (and we do love our SP ) so it's good to hear they'll still be happening.
Thanks for the update, it's good to see an active CCP presence maintaining on these forums and I hope it continues all the way into Legion launch.
Cheers, Cross
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
2114
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Posted - 2014.05.22 16:53:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :) While cool, a full respec shouod be discussed now that it no longer matters, considering unless you guys are batshit insane (possible) Legion will have a respec by only transfering our SP totals, instead of trying to do some Frankenstein transfer from an old SP system to a new one Just let us enjoy what we have Not entirely accurate Fiend. I see where you're coming from here, and your point is valid as far as it goes, however here's the flip-side.
The more stable and persistent Dust is during the (possibly years) before a full Legion launch as a live game, the more reasonable and doable the transfer of assets beyond SP becomes upon Legion Launch. With respecs that are too free flowing we start to impact the entire shape of what is used, purchased, spent, etc and that will carry over into Legion as assets are transferred, unless CCP choose to wipe all of our assets during character migration. To be clear, I am firmly opposed to such a wipe. Which is why I perceive it as important that we maintain Dust with as much stability and persistence as possible in the lead up to Legion.
0.02 ISK Cross
ps ~ Dust development is ongoing, even if at a lower resource pool, and one of the key ongoing elements is balance polish. Honing that meta, rather than just swinging it wildly from one thing to another, is going to be more possible in a persistent environment not a purely fluid one such as that created by limitless respec options.
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
938
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Posted - 2014.05.22 19:09:00 -
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I want a Redline Sniper Event.
200 points for all snipers killing anyone outside the redline.
150 points for all snipers killing anyone inside the redline.
300 points for all non-snipers killing any sniper inside or outside the redline.
25 points for all non-snipers killing non-snipers inside the redline.
75 points for all non-snipers killing non-snipers outside the redline.
50 points for all hacks.
400 points for HAV and LAV kills outside the redline.
50 points for HAV and LAV kills inside the redline.
Munch
Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
749
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Posted - 2014.05.22 20:07:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :) Might be worth finally doing a Double ISK payout Event. For me and vet's like me it wouldnt matter, how i could spend over 2 bil personally before this game ends is beyond me. But most who didnt partake in PC since it's implementation are not in similar boats. I Think it would improve competition on the battlefield atleast until the ISK get's used up. P.S. You Pair an Experience event(Possibly an ISK) with Omega Boosters, And possibly add Heavy Weapon Variants... And watch Revenues flow back into DUST.
Yea I finally started throwing isk away stupidly in battles, its great fun :)
I too would buy AN OMEGA! nom nom |
End is Near
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2014.05.22 20:36:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :) When do we get the 3 day omega boosters for the 1 year birthday event? I redeemed mine last week (which ultimately led me to find out about Legion), but it hasn't showed up on my account yet. At this point, I plan on enjoying dust while people are still playing so I might as well use the boosters I have (or in this case should have). "Newsletter rewards go through INSTANTLY" id say either you were logged in on a different account or it glitched. Try try try again. |
Eko Sol
Strange Playings
360
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Posted - 2014.05.22 20:38:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :)
Are you freaking kidding me? You guys suck. I'm done being nice about your guys participation. First, you send in CCP Pok+Žmon Guy to ask us questions on what we want to see and then you confirm you don't have the manpower for events? This is absurd. How the hell are you going to deliver balance in other areas if you can't even do an event?
PSN is "Ekopalm"
I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games
Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
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Kierkegaard Soren
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
468
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:25:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :) Are you freaking kidding me? You guys suck. I'm done being nice about your guys participation. First, you send in CCP Pok+Žmon Guy to ask us questions on what we want to see and then you confirm you don't have the manpower for events? This is absurd. How the hell are you going to deliver balance in other areas if you can't even do an event?
Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty unhappy with the situation too, but the logistics behind running and administrating an event are a much bigger task than balancing weapons and the like; the hard part of the latter is figuring out the how and the why. From a technical standpoint it's pretty simple, you just change some numbers around server-side and shazam you're good to go. Keeping track of awards and sp earned for every player during an event though is much more fiddly.
Which is a shame. I loved the heavy/scout event, it got me into an entirely new playstyle.
Dedicated Commando.
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
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Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
370
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:34:00 -
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too bad we never got that *Cough* logi *cough* event
Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
360
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:38:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Eko Sol wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :) Are you freaking kidding me? You guys suck. I'm done being nice about your guys participation. First, you send in CCP Pok+Žmon Guy to ask us questions on what we want to see and then you confirm you don't have the manpower for events? This is absurd. How the hell are you going to deliver balance in other areas if you can't even do an event? Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty unhappy with the situation too, but the logistics behind running and administrating an event are a much bigger task than balancing weapons and the like; the hard part of the latter is figuring out the how and the why. From a technical standpoint it's pretty simple, you just change some numbers around server-side and shazam you're good to go. Keeping track of awards and sp earned for every player during an event though is much more fiddly. Which is a shame. I loved the heavy/scout event, it got me into an entirely new playstyle.
I do database programming. You create a SP to audit and update toons. Events are something I can run bymyself in minutes. Telling me that changing the radius of let us say...a grenade blowing up is easier than an event is absurd. That's like saying climbing one step is easier than climbing 3. They are in the same category of ease.
If it is, at all, any more complicated then what I described then CCP definitely has terrible management AND terrible developers. What developer can't come up with an audit SP to run on toons? That's absurd. It's the basic test I give potential new hires in interviews. "I need you to create an audit SP that stores the data from X,Y, and Z tables into View 'J' and check 'J' for columns 'A' and 'B' where B is the constant. After the check I need it to update Table 'L' in Boolean on whether column 'A' of view 'J' was equal or greater than column 'B' of that same view. The Boolean output should be in new colum 'Z' in table 'L'l".
Anyway, it isn't hard.
I'll tell you what happened.
CCP didn't know how to make a lot of stuff for the game so at the beginning they outsourced a lot of code. It all half sucked. Over time they lost the source of compiled code or never got it in the first place. They don't know how to make some of that outsourced compiled code from scratch and this has built up over and over and over for the past 2+ years. Now they have a game they can't fix b/c they honestly don't have the technical ability to do it given it's current circumstance. In addition, they probably have some licensing issues with some of the initial rendered products of the game. For example, if I pay company X to make my Y number of guns then Company X might have requirements for the developer to use them. Without thinking the developer company takes the deal and now you can't copy and paste guns and change a few things because it would breach agreements with other companies.
I've seen it before. What is sad is that they are going to do it again for Legion and everyone is getting their hopes up thinking it will be better. They have bad habits and follow zero standardized and existing models that have breaded wild success for other companies
If I could stop drinking when I play Dust then I would stop buying AUR but I really like not spending that SP for complex Kinkats and just buying them with AUR. Sigh.
PSN is "Ekopalm"
I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games
Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA
12
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Posted - 2014.05.22 22:23:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :) Might be worth finally doing a Double ISK payout Event. For me and vet's like me it wouldnt matter, how i could spend over 2 bil personally before this game ends is beyond me. But most who didnt partake in PC since it's implementation are not in similar boats. I Think it would improve competition on the battlefield atleast until the ISK get's used up. P.S. You Pair an Experience event(Possibly an ISK) with Omega Boosters, And possibly add Heavy Weapon Variants... And watch Revenues flow back into DUST.
You ancient exiles billionares why not sponsored a corp? If the current competition is not up to par then trained them to be and then once they get up to par you can fight them. |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
576
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Posted - 2014.05.23 09:48:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:The old events were very taxing on resources and manpower. Now that much of the Dust team has been shipped over to Legion we will be pretty limited in regards to what kind of events can be run. Which is not to say we won't be getting any at all, just that they may be more limited in scope and design. This is fairly accurate. There will be an Accelerated SP Event coming up in the next few weeks though :) Might be worth finally doing a Double ISK payout Event. For me and vet's like me it wouldnt matter, how i could spend over 2 bil personally before this game ends is beyond me. But most who didnt partake in PC since it's implementation are not in similar boats. I Think it would improve competition on the battlefield atleast until the ISK get's used up. P.S. You Pair an Experience event(Possibly an ISK) with Omega Boosters, And possibly add Heavy Weapon Variants... And watch Revenues flow back into DUST. 2 bil
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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End is Near
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
85
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Posted - 2014.05.25 15:28:00 -
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The new blue |
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