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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:19:00 -
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As we know, CCP has mentioned many times that they want to give the players to tools to create in the "sandbox". I think that is a great idea...user generated content.
I had a quick conversation (and by conversation, I mean me annoying Saberwing until he acknowledged me) in the DevHangout channel in game on DUST 514. It was here I inquired his familiarity with the Customization of game settings and the map edit (forge) in the Halo Series. He said he was not familiar but would look into. Well, below is a few highlights into that Game Tool.
Example One Example Two Example Three Example Four Example Five
The reason I bring this up is not because I want Legion to be a loby shooter, rather it is the opposite. I want Legion to have the tools to allow players to create what they want and what they envision for the betterment of the community. With a customization function like the examples above, the EVE community could run tournaments and competitions from everything Capture the Flag, to LAV Races, to epic tank battles (think Roman Colosseum with ships) to DropShip challenges and aerial acrobatic events. The possibilities are nearly endless.
EVE Legion needs a tool like this, one where the players can create and generate what it is we want to see. You don't even need to do that much work, just create a literal blank sandbox (or two, one big and one small) and give us the abilities to add a variety of elements that we choose. You can create two maps with a lot of various object to be used at our disposal and the community will take those to maps and make thousands!
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
343
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Posted - 2014.05.20 22:38:00 -
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Also, to address the potential concern of, "but everything in New Eden is real and actually happens somewhere"
A possible solution would then be to make the ability to do the things I suggested tied to corporations and skills in the skill tree. Just like a CEO must train to lead a corp, an "Arena Editor" must train to be able to customize the sandbox maps. Likewise, you can tie in player owned or corporation owned Battle Arenas that are located on planets (similar to districts). High sec Arenas could have a certain set of parameters (no betting?, no outside gear?) while null sec Arenas have a different set of parameters (betting, no holds barred type of stuff).
Just a thought. I am sure there are many more great ideas out there as to how this would be possible and why it is a good idea...
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:20:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Hey guys! Sorry about the late response I really dig player created content like this. I had a look at a little bit of the video you posted. We've got some things in the pipeline for player created events, tournaments, etc, ... This is certainly awesome news Thanks for letting everyone know.
As I think we have seen with the DUST tournaments, the community really supports this type of content and it would be great to allow the players to set the various rules and regulations to dampen complaining
CCP Saberwing wrote:As part of that, the custom map creation is something I know nothing about personally and it would really be down to the Designers to create as it involves a bunch of functionality that we don't currently have! I agree that this is an aspect of the game that you don't currently have. I would also venture a guess that it is something that has not been talked about frequently.
I just hope that you give it some serious thought and consideration. I wont ramble on repeating everything I already said in OP, but I will highlight a few main things:
This is the essence of "User Generated Content" Let the users of Legion generate custom tournaments Let the users of Legion generate custom maps Let the users of Legion generate custom game modes
Tools, Tools and more Tools If you want to give players tools, start with this one
A simple way to give the community A LOT of variety
CertainAffinity has some great videos on YouTube, I hope you take some time to view them and show to fellow devs
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.24 17:25:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote: Some good stuff Custom map creation or randomized world generation would be a -tremendous- aspect of immersion. Static maps, even with randomized socket types, make the game look like it was all built by the same construction company. It's a very high level idea but it certainly would go a long way to adding a deeper sense of being in New Eden. I agree Amadi, you are correct that this is a high level idea, but one I think fully looking into and investing in.
By investing in this type of thing early, you allow players great immersion on day one. I don't see how you lay the building blocks for this type of game without the types of tools discussed in this thread (custom map creation and custom game mode creation).
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.09 13:48:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:This isn't just the kind of thing that should just be done for events like tournaments... we aren't supposed to be that kind of game. Tournament content is side-content. This is supposed to be a game about territory. Anyone who owns anything on a planet should be able to customize their district and do incredibly cool things with it, but it should be in the spirit of owning cool stuff.
So of course you run the risk of allowing players to wall-in objectives or create something unpenetrable. That might actually be a good idea, provided you can properly make all placeable objects destroyable. Someone has created a giant wall with a dozen large turret installations mounted on top? Drop an orbital to wipe out all the defenses and move up some rail/artillery tanks to knock that wall down.
Cool, game changing stuff can be done. But anything placeable must also be destroyable. If it's going to be a TRUE sandbox game that is an absolute requirement... and I'm not against it. Anyone who owns anything on a planet should be able to customize their district and do incredibly cool things with it, but it should be in the spirit of owning cool stuff.
Customizing a district would be awesome!
Personally, I see it as two separate areas:
1) Just as I originally described, customized maps and matches/game modes (CTF, KoTH)
2) A more in depth map "node" system with small, medium and large turrets; small, medium and large sockets/structures. Within each small medium and large, have multiple options to choose from so each district can be truly unique.
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.10 01:07:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:Titus Stryker wrote:[ This is the essence of "User Generated Content" Let the users of Legion generate custom tournaments Let the users of Legion generate custom maps Let the users of Legion generate custom game modes fully customisable suit colours and logos for corps and alliances too Though not related, I support this as well.
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:16:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Please change the thread title it hurts everytime i see it :-( better?
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:28:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:As much as I love this thread and LOVE the idea of user created maps, I just want to say its quite a lot of work to transfer what ever tools the devs use into functional fairly straight forward tools the players can use in game. It's been done before and that was with technology that is at least 7 years old.
CommanderBolt wrote:On the other hand, if the devs could just create the tools to set objectives / restrictions in a match... that could be really awesome. Ok we wouldn't be able to design levels but we could have LAV races setting waypoints to create tracks, dropship races, capture the flag, melee / nova knifes only matches etc.. They could even be found in the special contracts part! Bam! I think that would be a lot more reasonable of a request! This would be better than nothing. I like the custom map building like in Halo's forge but I would settle to use existing maps and just change the settings as you described.
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.28 14:19:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:User created content is a deliciously tasty thing that exists in most modern PC games to at least some degree; perhaps the best example of a good, all-powerful explodelicious kit I can cite is the good old Hammer Editor] (of the Valve SDK) Another thingy that any players of the Fallout series may have seen is the G.E.C.K. (Garden of Eden Creation Kit), and associated kits for Bethshida's other games. This is awesome, thanks for linking and hte insight.
I really hope the Legion devs are taking this seriously, it would elevate this game to a whole new level
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