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Vitharr Foebane
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Posted - 2014.05.17 06:23:00 -
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use a swarm launcher and make those statements please
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
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Vitharr Foebane
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.05.17 06:36:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:use a swarm launcher and make those statements please I do use swarms only when the time is right. Your statement is pointless. I primarily go after tanks and lav's. Swarms are meant as support for ground vehicles but mostly for DS and ADS.
If swarms were "meant" for DS and ADS why do they have an inherent resistance to them? Mind you i ask this as a purely philosophical statement as i am a heavy with prof IV in forges.
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.05.17 06:46:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:use a swarm launcher and make those statements please Swarm launcher is the least player skill intensive weapon in the game. Any scrub can switch into a completely free suit and use one. It doesn't even require aiming. It can, and should, do an incredibly pitiful amount of damage for the amount of effort it takes, which is nothing. When you get enough terrible players together it can become an issue. That's exactly where the weapon should be, and it's exactly where it is. Proto swarm launchers should be feared though and they are not.
the sad fact of the matter is that no infantry AV is feared unless its a RE, proto FG, or jihad LAV. That is wrong on more levels then i can possibly put in a single post...
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.05.17 06:54:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Eko Sol wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:use a swarm launcher and make those statements please I do use swarms only when the time is right. Your statement is pointless. I primarily go after tanks and lav's. Swarms are meant as support for ground vehicles but mostly for DS and ADS. If swarms were "meant" for DS and ADS why do they have an inherent resistance to them? Mind you i ask this as a purely philosophical statement as i am a heavy with prof IV in forges. I'm done explaining. I'm done. The way I look at it is that a true AV infantry unit has 2 out of the 4 AV methods and knows when to execute. In addition, knows when the vehicle in question just doesn't matter. How many tanks just stay outside the city? Why the hell do I have to be successful at AV'ing that tank? There is no reason. I should stay in the city and protect the null or take it. Why should I care about the ADS that's just going around picking off outsiders when the dom Null is underground? It just doesn't make sense. AV is about picking battles and using two out of the four following methods: 1) AV nades/RE's 2) Proxy RE's 3) Forge 4) Swarms I change my mind. I'm going to explain a little. If someone goes after every vehicle with swarms then they suck. If they go after every single vehicle with AV Nades and RE's then they suck. If they expect every vehicle to run over Proxy RE's then they suck. If someone is on lower ground and comes out with a FG every time then they suck. If you choose only one method then you might only have a small percentage of times where it is appropriate. Just because I'm good at AV doesn't mean I go after every tank. It means I go after the tanks that matter and are in a situation in which I can win with my method. Sometimes they are out in the open. Forges are more successful then Nades and RE's. Sometimes the tank is in the city where Nades and RE's are more successful. Swarms are successful from high ground in semi-open areas like the map that has the mushroom but not the towers. EDIT: BTW, although you don't get WP. Get good at crashing cheap gorgons into ADS. I do it all of the time. I'm not going to count this as number 5 simply because it only works on ADS. After Burner, Rep, Armor plate and chase it around. Even if you don't get it it won't get anything either.
Since you are in an explaining mood how is a heavy supposed to effectively use your 2 of 4 method? Being next to a tank equals dead no matter if you are a heavy or ewar scout. Also a heavy cannot use a re or proxy. So where does a heavy fit into your little rule?
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vitharr Foebane
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.05.17 07:10:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Atiim wrote:I'm just gonna sit here and LOL at this thread because it means absolutely nothing, and will serve to do nothing but regurgitate points that have already disprove several times over. Also: CCP Logibro wrote:I also want to add that we're not happy with the current balance between infantry AV and tanks, so that's one of the things we have on our list to look at for DUST 514. Dude, you suck at AV. I watched you in action. It's obvious. Get over it.
Dude when 3+ people cant take out a tank with AV there is a problem...
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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