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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.05.17 21:19:00 -
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Your ideas for roles are quite odd or just downright aweful (EWAR medium suit? LOL), but the overall idea is good.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.05.17 21:27:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:snip
Sir, having complex game mechanics Like PC and FW as well as a open world, as well as having fittings and such, additionally allowing cheating (not game cheating, but like person to person), lying, stealing, etc. as allowed will drive those away. I ask yet again, why is a system that limits others for a group of idiots better than fixing the system and teaching those idiots how to use the system, as well as give them a guide?
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.05.18 00:23:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:snip
Sir, having complex game mechanics Like PC and FW as well as a open world, as well as having fittings and such, additionally allowing cheating (not game cheating, but like person to person), lying, stealing, etc. as allowed will drive those away. I ask yet again, why is a system that limits others for a group of idiots better than fixing the system and teaching those idiots how to use the system, as well as give them a guide? Well, calling them idiots is hardly a welcoming start wouldn't you say?
I call myself a idiot sometimes, so don't mind me calling people idiots. I wouldn't deal with bluedots anyways; if they wanna fight or ride with me, they better know how to play ball.
EDIT: You get my point; don't act like IWS, and nit pick every little thing I say 
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.05.18 02:05:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Your ideas for roles are quite odd or just downright aweful (EWAR medium suit? LOL), but the overall idea is good.
EDIT: This is pretty much the sight of how the ISIS and skill system would look (with T I suits added though). I can't draw and is horrible with putting pics together, so you doing this is a good thing. Yeah I needed to fill all roles to complete the UI. Some were thrown together at the last second. I'm sure smarter people than myself could come up with better roles to fill those boxes.
lol, I knew it. Just stamp st the top of it, as well as all over the OP that those are not actual concepts 
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:56:00 -
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Odd how the players could come up with better ideas faster than CCP could lol
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:59:00 -
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Only problem with the tree is that is has cap stuff, and that you put all the T I suits under one skill.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.05.20 01:59:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:I'm against the idea of Tech I having specializations. Having each dropsuit be suited for a particular role over another is one thing, but full-fledged specializations are something I would rather see from Tech II alone.
And Tech III can be the crazy child that can't seem to fit in. Try to think of the basic suits like better noob ships and the racial suits as basic, like frigs, destroyers, cruisers, battle cruisers, and battleships; they're more general/flexible. Sure logistics is a kind of specialty, but it a broad specialty able to do a wide variety of logistics tasks. The t2 advanced suits I proposed would be real specialties, designed to do one task really well. Like the triage specialist might only have 2 equipment slots and get large bonuses to nanite injectors and remote reps for shields or armor depending on the race. They might only have a sidearm. They would be poor choices for dropping links or hives. Or the command specialist might be really great at staying alive and boosting his allies with warfare links, but with fairly modest DPS.
Crusader.... you know what, I'm tired of bringing that up. Whatever...........
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.05.21 03:02:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Vell0cet wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Your skill trees are too open, from what I can tell anyway.
You appear to only have 1 step between choosing your suit size and your factional specialisation, this is not good.
No offence, but add somd more intermediary steps, as if you are asking a series of questions?
What suit size do you want?
What role do you want?
What faction do you want?
Focus on a tree that expands regularly, not all at once.
This is an interesting suggestion, in other words, adding depth to the noob tree. One concern is what you would bonus a generic assault/logi/etc. for? Well from what I'm understanding, Assault Suits will have 2 light weapon slots in Legion, like a commando did. So you just give a simple generic bonus Assault: 50% Light Weapon Fitting Cost Logistics: 50% Equipment Fitting Cost allows those to parse up the tree, then you just let the layouts do the talking, no need to change any suit stats or anything yet, let the player get used to the role before you start adjusting the suits. When designing a skill tree you have to imagine that each node is a room, with each door on the room leading to a new one. If you give someone too many doors they will never bother going past that level. You need to guide someone through the tree BEFORE the ISIS overlay. Think about it with weapons. What kimda weapon do you want?A shotgunHere is a shptgun, go play with it a while.Did you like the shotgun?Yeah, but I would prefer less rounds and more damageHere then try a Breach Shotgun, enjoy! Did you like it? No it just didn't fit my style, I need something faster firingHow about the Assault Shotgun? Have a tryWell?It's awsome, though I want even fasterThen how about a Minmatar Assault Shotgun?Oh hell yes!This how your skills tree should feel like a mentor, a friend, not just the Construct
Winmatar shotty = MD.................
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