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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2014.05.18 15:02:00 -
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Gaelon Thrace wrote:Luk Manag wrote:There are two main options. Progression (SP- boosterd) and ISK (AUR gear if you cant afford it in isk is simply buying ISK with AUR). If I recall correctly, CCP Z already said there would be no AUR gear.
If you listen carefully, he wants to avoid situations where people feel like money was used to defeat them. I'm sure the brilliant plan will be to sell skill boosters, something like +5% to weapon damage ( nothing to be noticeable in the kill feed).
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
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Posted - 2014.05.18 15:32:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:Luk Manag wrote:Sell us more fitting slots. Start us with 10 custom fitting slots. Charge more $$ for every additional fitting slot, up to 100 or more. Could work for -ú$Gé¼, but it would be a pain in the ass would it not?
It's already a pain in the ass. I was just trying to suggest things that I would pay real money for.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.18 17:24:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:While the "Treasure Caches" idea has merit, from my point of view this seems like a very Pay-to-win system, in a system that looks easy to exploit. The Money Bomb (deployable booster) idea is a good concept which I think EvE already has, which is excellent for parity! The numbers need to be played with a little and I think there needs to be a detrimental affect for having it out for to long, like bringing in bigger and badder drones the longer you have it out. So while the SP/ISK go's up the fear factor is too. I think you misunderstand the concept with these item chaches. You are paying AUR to buy empty treasure chest that you fill with your own items. Small chest give more available slots to place things in and large chest give more room. Once you designate a chest as ready you select the planet and the server deploys your item chest to a pve zone. Zero pay to win aspect here.
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Jadek Menaheim
Ancient Textiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.18 17:26:00 -
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Very good point on drones for the moneybomb. I like the dynamic this would bring.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.18 18:32:00 -
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DaReaperPW wrote:I did not read all of the post, but i honestly think legion should have two models. if they MUST do F2P
1) If Eve Unification happens, and we get one char for all three games, then they should have the option of tying in a subscription to your eve stuff IF you wish. You would get access to everything, and they could still do the NeX store for cosmetic stuff to nickle and dime you, but they would have a steady flow of money having a small fee. i.e. you pay like $25 a month and you get dust, valk, and eve.
2) Otherwise, you can play for free and spend money on the nex store at your leisure.
I would prolly have a disadvantage to not paying a monthly fee, but i really have zero idea how best to tailor that.
Stuff in nex store (for irl money) Reskining (customization of your suits and vehicles) quarter decorations, boosters, etc.
In regards to Eve Online, I have severe doubts that CCP would increase the subscription to anywhere more than what it is now especially considering the high likelihood of Legion still being F2P. There are many players that I ran into both in-game and in real life that complain about paying anything more than $5-$10 let alone the $25/month that you propose.
My alternative would be keep the same subscription price for access to Eve Online only and make the rest F2P. Or make Legion F2P, Eve Subscription based, and Valkyrie one-time payment. Either way it doesn't matter to me as the key here to accessing Eve Online from either Valkyrie or Legion would be none other than PLEX.
The Pilot License Extension (PLEX) is a very robust and flexible system that has years of being constantly tried, tested, and proven to work. If PLEX can be made available in the in-game Legion and Valkyrie secondary markets, then that will open up a major opportunity to both players and CCP profit wise. A Valkyrie player can buy PLEX with just ISK and then use that PLEX if they wish to gain unrestricted access to Eve Online. Essentially becoming an Eve Online subscriber through the PLEX system. The same can be established for Legionaries looking to gain access to Eve Online as well.
PLEX can also be converted right now to AURUM for purchasing cosmetic items like the monocle, clothes, accessories, prosthesis, and now BPCs for painting their ships.
Another major benefit of PLEX is the market forces itself. If the ISK price of PLEX goes up too high, then players will either just find it cheaper to pay directly to CCP $15 to extend their subscription for the month or pay directly to CCP $19 for a PLEX so they can take advantage of the high ISK value of this special commodity. Ultimately this will flood the market with more PLEX and thus cause a drop in the price. If the ISK price of PLEX goes down too low, then subscribers will be tempted to spend their ISK to PLEX their account instead thus causing a higher demand for this commodity and ultimately raise the price later on.
As you can see, PLEX is a very powerful and flexible commodity and it offers a lot of opportunities to not just Eve Online players but also to Valkyrie and Legion players whole will likely be organized enough to earn ISK on a steady basis and use that ISK to buy PLEX.
What do you think?
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Syeven Reed
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:00:00 -
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I think yes, you have it down. This is a brilliant example of how a fantastic economy across different games that have different payment models could operate. I shall be noting this down on the OP!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:13:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:I think yes, you have it down. This is a brilliant example of how a fantastic economy across different games that have different payment models could operate. I shall be noting this down on the OP!
Thanks. As an Eve Online player myself who has seen PLEX in action plenty of times, I feel that this is the best way to go especially in unifying Eve, Valkyrie and Legion through the economy.
Link: http://eve-central.com/
In Jita 4 - Moon 4 Caldari Navy Assembly Plant at the time of this posting:
PLEX SELLING 723.66 M 5% / 729.90 M median (1,209.00 units) BUYING 712.32 M 5% / 695.10 M median (1,989.00 units)
Note: When PLEX was introduce years ago, the price use to be around 300 million ISK per unit. But be careful. The PLEX market can sometimes be like the housing bubble of 2007.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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