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i3rutal i3rutas
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:24:00 -
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We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances.
our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no.
As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully.
The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress.
Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution.
please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support |
D4GG3R
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
256
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:44:00 -
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Well there you have it community, Nyain decides to keep a third of Molden Heath yet we are still the bad guys...?
Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
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WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
262
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:45:00 -
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Nice format. Very Unique.
Also, welcome aboard, looks like you're part of the "Tiara" princesses.
I would still expect some mass attacks to happen in the future. However it's a lot work to get 200 people on board so that only 20% of them will be up at 6am. You're still safe. =p |
WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
262
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:47:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:Well there you have it community, Nyain decides to keep a third of Molden Heath yet we are still the bad guys...?
Lol, no laziness and lack of will of early morning assaults are keepng people ignorant of the hate. =P
I could get up 2 hrs early before work in the morning......buuuuuuuuttt.... |
i3rutal i3rutas
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:50:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Nice format. Very Unique.
Also, welcome aboard, looks like you're part of the "Tiara" princesses.
I would still expect some mass attacks to happen in the future. However it's a lot work to get 200 people on board so that only 20% of them will be up at 6am. You're still safe. =p no worries. we always have a pending mass attack on us. and the format was jus trying to get away from the solid block of letters. lol our timers and other faq are answered in the op. |
Baan Mee Ho
Expert Intervention Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:02:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:Well there you have it community, Nyain decides to keep a third of Molden Heath yet we are still the bad guys...?
Everyone else will always be the Bad guys... No matter what they do.... They are the Saints :) |
i3rutal i3rutas
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:07:00 -
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Baan Mee Ho wrote:D4GG3R wrote:Well there you have it community, Nyain decides to keep a third of Molden Heath yet we are still the bad guys...? Everyone else will always be the Bad guys... No matter what they do.... They are the Saints :) look around you fool. weve never been saints of anything. we are the most hated group in this game. so you do nothing but dog my every word when im doing my best to change the way we're viewed? give me a break. |
Baan Mee Ho
Expert Intervention Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:38:00 -
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i3rutal i3rutas wrote:Baan Mee Ho wrote:D4GG3R wrote:Well there you have it community, Nyain decides to keep a third of Molden Heath yet we are still the bad guys...? Everyone else will always be the Bad guys... No matter what they do.... They are the Saints :) look around you fool. weve never been saints of anything. we are the most hated group in this game. so you do nothing but dog my every word when im doing my best to change the way we're viewed? give me a break.
The Best way for you to do anything at this point would be to give Most of the Districts up and Become Concord... At this point you gotta do something drastic to get some good PR.... Be Concord, Be unbiased, Leave Blue Donuts and Police PC...
Calling People names and saying stuff like We will Hold what we have for X,Y,Z Reasons... Doesn't help with PR Work... People hate you guys more than they hate CCP... |
D4GG3R
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
259
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:00:00 -
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I don't wanna be a d!ck but you aren't doing the best you can, you don't need to keep 30% of MH "for strength in case of a mass attack." If you had less districts you wouldn't get mass attacked, that is a terrible excuse to mask selfishness.
Honestly idc if you hold onto the districts, I'll go fight for them if I want them, but please lie to us better next time.
I look forward to alarm clocking you guys in the future<3
Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
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dy5t0pia
The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day
501
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:28:00 -
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i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances.
our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no.
As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully.
The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress.
Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution.
please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support
Would you mind contacting me in game please, I am interested in acquiring a district from you guys.
CEO
Closed Beta Vet
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i3rutal i3rutas
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:55:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:I don't wanna be a d!ck but you aren't doing the best you can, you don't need to keep 30% of MH "for strength in case of a mass attack." If you had less districts you wouldn't get mass attacked, that is a terrible excuse to mask selfishness.
Honestly idc if you hold onto the districts, I'll go fight for them if I want them, but please lie to us better next time.
I look forward to alarm clocking you guys in the future<3 what makes you think we wouldnt be mass attacked? all the suddon everybody loves us? how about you just go ahead and QQ. we fought for whats ours. and we're keeping what we had b4 we were in that mislead alliance.. why in the world do you think we need anymore isk? it isnt about that. if it was we would keep what we have and keep pushing people out. but its not. and about you alarm clocking us? im not here to start a fight but jeez, at least try to sound menacing. |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2540
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:57:00 -
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i3rutal i3rutas wrote:our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk.
You need a third of all land in the game to protect yourselves from a mass attack? o_o
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2540
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:05:00 -
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You guys aren't actually really that hated for any other reason. You guys are good players, you have your districts on the timer you're active, nobody can fault you for that. The lag playing against you guys is CCP's fault.
The only reason people dislike your corp is because you're freaking hoarding a third of the game map. If you stop it, people will stop hating you.
And they'll stop attacking you too. Because nobody wants to wake up at freaking 6 AM. If you dropped all but 5-10 districts, you could farm to your heart's content, and you probably would never have to face a mass attack again.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Team Bad Decisions
42
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:08:00 -
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+1 I like how in a PR statement NS went G mode and said "we keepin 30% of the dust universe, do something bout it muhfucka. Act up and we taking more" |
Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1022
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:38:00 -
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WhataguyTTU wrote:Nice format. Very Unique.
For some reason, the Star Wars opening theme was sounding in my head while I was reading it. |
bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
1118
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:39:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:You guys aren't actually really that hated for any other reason. You guys are good players, you have your districts on the timer you're active, nobody can fault you for that. The lag playing against you guys is CCP's fault.
The only reason people dislike your corp is because you're freaking hoarding a third of the game map. If you stop it, people will stop hating you.
And they'll stop attacking you too. Because nobody wants to wake up at freaking 6 AM. If you dropped all but 5-10 districts, you could farm to your heart's content, and you probably would never have to face a mass attack again.
first part can agree with. their timers are on their time. no arguement there,
lag, blah, ccp
game mode is planetary conquest. they own 30% or want to. can't fault them there. so basically what you and the community are wanting is for them to give back they took on YOUR timers and just minimize themselves lol..i hope milkman gets tired of the whining and goes for it all...I'll be right there with him
"CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2540
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:47:00 -
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bigolenuts, New Eden is New Eden. I'm just telling them their PR is bad, their logic is stupid, and if they want to avoid mass attacks, getting rid of districts is the way to do it.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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BLUNT SMKR
Ahrendee Mercenaries
62
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:59:00 -
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i3rutal i3rutas wrote: and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no.
idk wat anyone says thats bullshit u guys hide behind that excuse so much all ur timers are on the same time most corps that arent scared of being attack would have there timers more spread out n i'm not saying spread them out like 6-7 hours apart more like 1-2hr making it somewat easier for people to attack NS is a big corp so i doubt they can only field a full team at 1200 only. actually i'm positive cause u guys used to attack us all the time at all kinds of early timers lol
So wat are u guys scared of there aint no competition left in this game so i doubt u would need ur "greatest players" to beat anyone thats left lol. oh well i'm glad i'm done with this game peace have fun playing pointless farmville
TeamWork>KDR
I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
193
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:08:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:bigolenuts, New Eden is New Eden. I'm just telling them their PR is bad, their logic is stupid, and if they want to avoid mass attacks, getting rid of districts is the way to do it.
Well they must be doing something right.
Every time we've dealt with them or PCed with them, they've been very reasonable and accommodating.
But keep trying to make em look bad. I'm sure they care.
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
684
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:14:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:bigolenuts, New Eden is New Eden. I'm just telling them their PR is bad, their logic is stupid, and if they want to avoid mass attacks, getting rid of districts is the way to do it. There were threads being made to eliminate them with mass attacks back when they only had 15%. The source of their bad PR isn't from holding a large slice of land, though that is a factor.
Even if they give up land there are still going to be those that view them as foreigners hiding behind their timers, as well as tank spammers, pub stompers, etc.
They earned their land through setting their alarm clocks in the early morning, playing on holidays and weekends just so they can fight NA and EU corps. If you haven't noticed, there isn't a single other Japanese corp to compete with them in PC.
The reason why everyone avoids attacking them is because there are much easier targets for them to choose from, while Nyain has no choice but to set their alarm clocks and play at awkward times if they want to take land.
The massive amount of land that they have taken I have no doubt was FAR from easy to acquire. Of course Nyain has employed the help of AE in recent months to take land for them, but only when they have stacked timers. They still have their players waking up at 1-11am in their timezone to fight.
I have no idea if there are still other Japanese corps that can compete in PC, but if there are Nyain should give them the remainder of the land they are willing to part with. That way they have some competition in their own timezone rather than being the only Japanese corp in PC |
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
727
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:26:00 -
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BLUNT SMKR wrote:i3rutal i3rutas wrote: and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no. idk wat anyone says thats bullshit u guys hide behind that excuse so much all ur timers are on the same time most corps that arent scared of being attack would have there timers more spread out n i'm not saying spread them out like 6-7 hours apart more like 1-2hr making it somewat easier for people to attack NS is a big corp so i doubt they can only field a full team at 1200 only. actually i'm positive cause u guys used to attack us all the time at all kinds of early timers lol So wat are u guys scared of there aint no competition left in this game so i doubt u would need ur "greatest players" to beat anyone thats left lol. oh well i'm glad i'm done with this game peace have fun playing pointless farmville
but downtime is at primetime in japan so that gets rid of one entire timer for us |
Ric Barlom
423
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:42:00 -
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i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances.
our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no.
As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully.
The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress.
Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution.
please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support Bro, you need to strike NOW! I appreciate your benevolence, my man, but now is not the time to be soft on the community. You need to go out there and go to work! You need to increase your landmass to about 50% ASAP, increase your ROI, skyrocket the morale among the guys. The community's weak, man. They're practically giving you these planets. Are you man enough to take them?
Who gave out my Monday to Friday phone number!? I don't wanna be getting any phone calls! I've put Dust way behind me!
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D4GG3R
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
262
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:11:00 -
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i3rutal i3rutas wrote:D4GG3R wrote:I don't wanna be a d!ck but you aren't doing the best you can, you don't need to keep 30% of MH "for strength in case of a mass attack." If you had less districts you wouldn't get mass attacked, that is a terrible excuse to mask selfishness.
Honestly idc if you hold onto the districts, I'll go fight for them if I want them, but please lie to us better next time.
I look forward to alarm clocking you guys in the future<3 what makes you think we wouldnt be mass attacked? all the suddon everybody loves us? how about you just go ahead and QQ. we fought for whats ours. and we're keeping what we had b4 we were in that mislead alliance.. why in the world do you think we need anymore isk? it isnt about that. if it was we would keep what we have and keep pushing people out. but its not. and about you alarm clocking us? im not here to start a fight but jeez, at least try to sound menacing.
I don't think you understand. You can't be mass attacked if you don't have a massive amount of districts. I 100% guarantee if you merely held 15 districts and dropped the rest that you would be left alone completely. You don't need the isk, you said it yourself, right?
Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
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D4GG3R
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
262
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:16:00 -
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bigolenuts wrote: game mode is planetary conquest. they own 30% or want to. can't fault them there. so basically what you and the community are wanting is for them to give back they took on YOUR timers and just minimize themselves lol..i hope milkman gets tired of the whining and goes for it all...I'll be right there with him
They can keep the land all they want. But if they do, then they need to stop wondering why they are hated and also shut the he11 up about being mass attacked. If you have 30% of land in a game, I hate to break it to you guys, but you're gonna get mass attacked.
Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
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i3rutal i3rutas
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:27:00 -
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It doesn't matter what we say or do. we will never be liked by everyone. the talks about our timers are rediculous. we have said we dont want to take any more and were giving away alot. still you want more.... theres no pleasing everybody. and really no reason to please the community that hates us. aside from just wanting to see little corps in the starmap again. |
i3rutal i3rutas
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:33:00 -
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D4GG3R wrote:bigolenuts wrote: game mode is planetary conquest. they own 30% or want to. can't fault them there. so basically what you and the community are wanting is for them to give back they took on YOUR timers and just minimize themselves lol..i hope milkman gets tired of the whining and goes for it all...I'll be right there with him
They can keep the land all they want. But if they do, then they need to stop wondering why they are hated and also shut the he11 up about being mass attacked. If you have 30% of land in a game, I hate to break it to you guys, but you're gonna get mass attacked. Please show me where i said i was afraid of being mass attacked? in fact im pretty sure i said that one is always around the corner. we dont like it but it gets handled. |
Killar-12
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
2848
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:33:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances.
our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no.
As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully.
The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress.
Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution.
please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support Bro, you need to strike NOW! I appreciate your benevolence, my man, but now is not the time to be soft on the community. You need to go out there and go to work! You need to increase your landmass to about 50% ASAP, increase your ROI, skyrocket the morale among the guys. The community's weak, man. They're practically giving you these planets. Are you man enough to take them? I'll play along here, then why should I stay playing DUST if I was a little guy?
I AM 1337 Approved
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D4GG3R
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
266
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:48:00 -
[28] - Quote
i3rutal i3rutas wrote:D4GG3R wrote:bigolenuts wrote: game mode is planetary conquest. they own 30% or want to. can't fault them there. so basically what you and the community are wanting is for them to give back they took on YOUR timers and just minimize themselves lol..i hope milkman gets tired of the whining and goes for it all...I'll be right there with him
They can keep the land all they want. But if they do, then they need to stop wondering why they are hated and also shut the he11 up about being mass attacked. If you have 30% of land in a game, I hate to break it to you guys, but you're gonna get mass attacked. Please show me where i said i was afraid of being mass attacked? in fact im pretty sure i said that one is always around the corner. we dont like it but it gets handled.
Show me where I said you were afraid of mass attacks.
Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2548
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Posted - 2014.05.16 03:39:00 -
[29] - Quote
Our point isn't fear. Our point is that people will actually not hate you, and not attack you, if you don't hold 30% of Molden Heath. You're getting your cause and effect messed up.
We don't really dislike you. And we don't really want to get up at the crack of dawn to play DUST. The only reason people mass attack you, is because you're holding a third of the districts.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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i3rutal i3rutas
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:12:00 -
[30] - Quote
lol this has gotten out of hand. we were mass attacked when we had 15% also. If any of you look at the op, i wasnt whining or complaining about the attacks. hell it wasnt even PR. it was a simple announcement. |
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2758
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:22:00 -
[31] - Quote
Meanwhile in a game that matters...
This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
5015
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:30:00 -
[32] - Quote
Spectral Clone wrote:Meanwhile in a game that matters...
that game sucks too.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Lord Tug
C0NFUCIUS
84
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Posted - 2014.05.16 11:48:00 -
[33] - Quote
Why are people giving Brutas a hard time ? If my calculations are right NS have agreed to give away roughly 30/40 districts !! That's totally f#cking awesome . They could of said b@llocks to you lot we're keeping the 100+ districts !!
I'm also real happy to see NS have turned down ringing for the smaller corps . This is great news . I would hope the other big corps will have the same honour as NS are showing regarding the matter. Can't wait to get involved with some real 16 of each battles .
This is a great post Brutas . We can make your timers and in time it would be an honour to meet your A-team on the battlefield o7
Hats off to NS / AE / ERA over the past week . They could've been a$$holes and said f#ck all of you and we couldn't of done sh!t about it .
Now can people stop with the cry baby sh!t , start farming your isk and let's start bashing the hell out of each other in game ..
Peace o7 |
Gelhad Thremyr
Quebec United
283
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Posted - 2014.05.16 14:06:00 -
[34] - Quote
bigolenuts wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:You guys aren't actually really that hated for any other reason. You guys are good players, you have your districts on the timer you're active, nobody can fault you for that. The lag playing against you guys is CCP's fault.
The only reason people dislike your corp is because you're freaking hoarding a third of the game map. If you stop it, people will stop hating you.
And they'll stop attacking you too. Because nobody wants to wake up at freaking 6 AM. If you dropped all but 5-10 districts, you could farm to your heart's content, and you probably would never have to face a mass attack again. first part can agree with. their timers are on their time. no arguement there, lag, blah, ccp game mode is planetary conquest. they own 30% or want to. can't fault them there. so basically what you and the community are wanting is for them to give back they took on YOUR timers and just minimize themselves lol..i hope milkman gets tired of the whining and goes for it all...I'll be right there with him
Proof that those where won, not handed over in a strategic alliance move ? Lots of people are saying they made a mistake hqnding stuff to them ! |
Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
287
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Posted - 2014.05.16 14:41:00 -
[35] - Quote
It's their land. They'll do whatever they want to do with it. Hate on them or don't hate on them. Just don't tell them what to do. |
Bad Cheetah
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.05.16 15:39:00 -
[36] - Quote
Hold what you want NS. If people don't like it, they can try to take it. Haters gonna hate. |
Fiddlestaxp
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
917
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Posted - 2014.05.16 19:01:00 -
[37] - Quote
i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances.
our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no.
Teamplayers and ERA had a similar mentality at land,
In Teamplayers we wanted more land as a buffer against a mass attack.
In ERA we wanted more land so that we had a power bloc large enough to keep AE from attacking us(That goal eventually morphed into attack them, at some point)
Also you had 25% before DNS... Pretty sure.
Regardless, initiate operation Great Dragon. Wait until sunday night and attack everything on the board... You guys are good enough to hold 80%! |
CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
292
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Posted - 2014.05.17 05:30:00 -
[38] - Quote
i3rutal i3rutas wrote:WhataguyTTU wrote:Nice format. Very Unique.
Also, welcome aboard, looks like you're part of the "Tiara" princesses.
I would still expect some mass attacks to happen in the future. However it's a lot work to get 200 people on board so that only 20% of them will be up at 6am. You're still safe. =p no worries. we always have a pending mass attack on us. and the format was jus trying to get away from the solid block of letters. lol our timers and other faq are answered in the op.
I have a few problems with this
1. By holding 30% of Molden Heath you are essentially holding 70-80 districts. It doesn't matter if you held 5 districts or 245 the result would always be the same in a "mass attack", you would not fill but MAYBE one of these battles if ANY with your ENTIRE corp online all at once. If you cannot fill but 1 person, if that, per 75 battles why hold so many if not for alterior purpose?
2. Your timer is at your "prime time" and yet after playing the last few months of DUST, I've clocked Nyain San AND Nyain Chan's "prime time" or at least most of your "A teamers" most active in pub matches between the times of 0:00-4:00 EvE time, and are no where to be found at the 12:00-15:00 timers which are directly contrary to where your timers have been for months. Case in point, you guys have been taking ERA districts at American prime time with your A-team for a week or two now, yet do not see ANY american corp taking multiple districts outside of our "Prime time".
3. You are now in General TSO's alliance, one of the now biggest and most active alliances in DUST to protect you from attack and you STILL need a district barrier with BILLIONS of ISK set aside to feel safe. I feel like there is a problem here whether you don't not trust your alliance or your own strength I do not know.
4. By holding dozens upon dozens of districts you are holding land that you do not need and have openly confessed to have needing no use for except to protect yourselves, while small and new corps sit in pub matches unable to grow in experience and ISK because there is not enough land to go around. Thus you are further halting the progression of DUST exactly as DNS had.
If you had any dignity you would drop your district amount down to 25 like we did when we were in power, as it is a perfect buffer against mass attack as it would cost about a billion ISK to be attacked by clone packs, and because most of your districts are cargo hubs, would take several attempts to overtake (Although all your districts are at the same timer so if you wanted to defend correctly you need like 5 districts?). It also allows others to grow in PC around you and provides a good ISK farm.
If you "aren't hiding behind timers" you would move your districts to more than one timer
If you "aren't hiding behind districts" you would drop your district count to a rreasonable amount
I've beaten your best in pubs with stacked teams
Yet I have not beaten your best in PC because none of my corps are on to play any of you, yet your whole corp seems to be on to play us
I don't mind the meta game, I don't mind the **** talking, I don't mind the backstabbing
But I DO mind being lied to openly
And especially lying to those who haven't been around long enough to know better
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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Emo Knife
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
6
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Posted - 2014.05.17 17:07:00 -
[39] - Quote
Even when we try to do something good for the community, we still end up being hated somehow or another. There's nothing that will ever satisfy this community, and nyain will always be hated.
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
144
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Posted - 2014.05.17 17:51:00 -
[40] - Quote
Arirana wrote: as well as tank spammers, pub stompers, etc.
^This is prettymuch why i utterly despised NS long before I learned about PC politics.
As a new player, there were few easy matches. But most of the time, when i lost or died, it was my fault or for a reason that didn't bother me much. It would be "Oops i shouldnt have went there i got killed" or it would be "damn that guy was almost dead. Must have a better suit. Ill get him next time!".
Not with NS though. The matches would be so incredibly one sided that I would get discouraged and not play for awhile. Its one thing to die cause you made a mistake or got slightly bettered. But with NS, its like you never had a chance. Im shooting people with my militia AR that take no damage, and they kill me in 2 shots. Its not alot of fun to play against people who cant die.
So i would just put the game down for awhile, hope to get some passive SP thinking that maybe it will increase my chances. There were alot of corps that gave me a hard time when I was new, but NS was by far the worst. When i would die out of nowhere and see "Nyain San/Chan" on the kill screen, i knew it was going to be a match devoid of fun. it was like "get a sniper and hide somewhere in the shadow of the MCC, and hope for a better match next time".
Now in all fairness, this is not a behavior unique to NS; The veterans of this game despise new players and run proto squads against their milita fits all the time. It is beyond me why people want to have an eternal 4 digit player population or be kings of an empty game, but I digress. Thats a conversation for another day.
So good luck with your whole PR move. But the irony is, NS has stomped and chased away so many new players, that there are few people left to know or care about you guys.
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Fiddlestaxp
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback
929
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Posted - 2014.05.17 17:52:00 -
[41] - Quote
Emo Knife wrote:Even when we try to do something good for the community, we still end up being hated somehow or another. There's nothing that will ever satisfy this community, and nyain will always be hated.
Just because you say it I for the good of the community, doesn't mean the community believes you... Pretty hard to justify holding more than 1-2 districts per timer as being "for the community!". |
iliel
Heaven's Lost Property
50
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Posted - 2014.05.17 20:48:00 -
[42] - Quote
NS - - I've always respected you, even when you attacked all of my corp's land and took it from us. So no need to apologize for your timers. And definitely no need to apologize for winning at a game mode called planetary conquest.
But wow, how many people in here, now being your support, just two months ago, a part of PD or some other non-NS alliance, being mutiliated by your team, were saying that your timers are like district locking?
Personally, after AE said they were giving up much of their land, and you, Brutal, said NS wanted to keep like 40%, I was a bit shocked.
But now, I say, take it all. The game is dying: that is another way of saying it is already dead.
You're one of the strongest corps left. So be your own army again. Don't let people who yesterday were your enemy today be your friend: for profit!
Today, let us NOT thank heaven for hypocrisy.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2800
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Posted - 2014.05.19 14:26:00 -
[43] - Quote
SoTa PoP wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Meanwhile in a game that matters...
that game sucks too.
Marvel Heroes is great for some casual slaying of villains.
This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
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i3rutal i3rutas
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2014.05.19 19:24:00 -
[44] - Quote
LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Arirana wrote: as well as tank spammers, pub stompers, etc.
^This is prettymuch why i utterly despised NS long before I learned about PC politics. As a new player, there were few easy matches. But most of the time, when i lost or died, it was my fault or for a reason that didn't bother me much. It would be "Oops i shouldnt have went there i got killed" or it would be "damn that guy was almost dead. Must have a better suit. Ill get him next time!". Not with NS though. The matches would be so incredibly one sided that I would get discouraged and not play for awhile. Its one thing to die cause you made a mistake or got slightly bettered. But with NS, its like you never had a chance. Im shooting people with my militia AR that take no damage, and they kill me in 2 shots. Its not alot of fun to play against people who cant die. So i would just put the game down for awhile, hope to get some passive SP thinking that maybe it will increase my chances. There were alot of corps that gave me a hard time when I was new, but NS was by far the worst. When i would die out of nowhere and see "Nyain San/Chan" on the kill screen, i knew it was going to be a match devoid of fun. it was like "get a sniper and hide somewhere in the shadow of the MCC, and hope for a better match next time". Now in all fairness, this is not a behavior unique to NS; The veterans of this game despise new players and run proto squads against their milita fits all the time. It is beyond me why people want to have an eternal 4 digit player population or be kings of an empty game, but I digress. Thats a conversation for another day. So good luck with your whole PR move. But the irony is, NS has stomped and chased away so many new players, that there are few people left to know or care about you guys.
what do you want me to say? im sorry about the broken game that throws 500k sp players against 40-50 million sp squads. Im sorry that we arent babysitters. i'm sorry that myself and those like me enjoy winning. like i said, this is no PR move, just an announcement. |
i3rutal i3rutas
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2014.05.19 19:39:00 -
[45] - Quote
Emo Knife wrote:Even when we try to do something good for the community, we still end up being hated somehow or another. There's nothing that will ever satisfy this community, and nyain will always be hated.
funny thing is, the guys talking trash represent nothing. especially not the community. people get it in their minds that they have a say over what happens because they put it in public. the real community has been mailing me and receiving land, regardless of what anybody has to say. it doesnt matter what points ppl want to throw out there. im done arguing about all this stuff with people that refuse to hear. you got an issue with us? feel free to contact me in-game to Voice chat. i'll gladly explain any questions you have.
this is my final post on this thread. |
ragewardog
SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad.
124
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Posted - 2014.05.19 19:53:00 -
[46] - Quote
i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances.
our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no.
As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully.
The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress.
Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution.
please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support
CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOT TO LOVE NYAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIGHT ZATARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
715
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Posted - 2014.05.19 20:17:00 -
[47] - Quote
i3rutal i3rutas wrote:LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Arirana wrote: as well as tank spammers, pub stompers, etc.
^This is prettymuch why i utterly despised NS long before I learned about PC politics. As a new player, there were few easy matches. But most of the time, when i lost or died, it was my fault or for a reason that didn't bother me much. It would be "Oops i shouldnt have went there i got killed" or it would be "damn that guy was almost dead. Must have a better suit. Ill get him next time!". Not with NS though. The matches would be so incredibly one sided that I would get discouraged and not play for awhile. Its one thing to die cause you made a mistake or got slightly bettered. But with NS, its like you never had a chance. Im shooting people with my militia AR that take no damage, and they kill me in 2 shots. Its not alot of fun to play against people who cant die. So i would just put the game down for awhile, hope to get some passive SP thinking that maybe it will increase my chances. There were alot of corps that gave me a hard time when I was new, but NS was by far the worst. When i would die out of nowhere and see "Nyain San/Chan" on the kill screen, i knew it was going to be a match devoid of fun. it was like "get a sniper and hide somewhere in the shadow of the MCC, and hope for a better match next time". Now in all fairness, this is not a behavior unique to NS; The veterans of this game despise new players and run proto squads against their milita fits all the time. It is beyond me why people want to have an eternal 4 digit player population or be kings of an empty game, but I digress. Thats a conversation for another day. So good luck with your whole PR move. But the irony is, NS has stomped and chased away so many new players, that there are few people left to know or care about you guys. what do you want me to say? im sorry about the broken game that throws 500k sp players against 40-50 million sp squads. Im sorry that we arent babysitters. i'm sorry that myself and those like me enjoy winning. like i said, this is no PR move, just an announcement.
Right? I know what you mean, I'm 6'3 and 240 lbs. Is it my fault that the 8 year olds at the park can't block worth **** when we play football? I mean, the goal IS to win isn't it?
So yeah, I totally get why you have full squads stomping pub Ambush. I mean endless games of going 30-0 is fun as hell and it helps the other team build character. I, for one, love you guys.
Because, that's why.
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Code Slucid
Dust 514 On Life Support
67
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:56:00 -
[48] - Quote
i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances.
our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no.
As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully.
The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress.
Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution.
please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support You guys remind me when PC was starting & eon was fighting a alliance *Won't name cause you guys should know already* and they had crazy timers! You guys could say that they good or bad *IDC* That fact is that their timers were major break point in PC cause it impossible to have a good squad ready around that time &!!! not only that, how long it take to get even 5% of their district? If they never gave up there land they would of be in the same situation as you guys |
bunnywink
775
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Posted - 2014.05.20 14:35:00 -
[49] - Quote
There are still districts being given away, so I don't really see a problem with this. People are just whining that their piece of the cake is bigger, but there is still cake to be had.
G£+ PSN: bunnywink
G£+ SKYPE: bunnywink
G£+ EVE: Erica Durance
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Derrith Erador
The Last of DusT.
1904
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:03:00 -
[50] - Quote
bunnywink wrote:There are still districts being given away, so I don't really see a problem with this. People are just whining that their piece of the cake is bigger, but there is still cake to be had. Can I has pie instead?
Betty White, the worlds hottest grandma.
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3050
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Posted - 2014.05.21 23:43:00 -
[51] - Quote
Somehow I just missed Ari's suggestion, which makes perfect sense. Are there other Japanese corps still around?
CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1
Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
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1st Lady Tiberius
Inner.Hell
0
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Posted - 2014.05.22 06:08:00 -
[52] - Quote
Arirana wrote:I have no idea if there are still other Japanese corps that can compete in PC, but if there are Nyain should give them the remainder of the land they are willing to part with. That way they have some competition in their own timezone rather than being the only Japanese corp in PC
I agree Z this is definitely a solid suggestion, could this be done? |
DJINN n Juice
Finger Popping Inc.
78
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Posted - 2014.05.22 13:20:00 -
[53] - Quote
Zatara Rought wrote:Somehow I just missed Ari's suggestion, which makes perfect sense. Are there other Japanese corps still around?
i know saluki is still around and i know there are a couple others at most, but i als know that their is a bitter rivalry with all the japanese corps. something about hentai vs. tenticle **** hentai. |
Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
364
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Posted - 2014.05.22 14:06:00 -
[54] - Quote
RavenClawArts is japanese based. My friend Himatubusi left our old corp (sephiroth clones) to join them for that sole reason.
He is a very talented amar logi, and the few in his current corp i've played were on the competitive level XD
Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
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bunnywink
791
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Posted - 2014.05.22 19:56:00 -
[55] - Quote
Zatara Rought wrote:Somehow I just missed Ari's suggestion, which makes perfect sense. Are there other Japanese corps still around?
At the top of my head...
S.A.L.U.K.I NF Sounds Unagi PIE 2nd stage
They seem pretty active still.
G£+ PSN: bunnywink
G£+ SKYPE: bunnywink
G£+ EVE: Erica Durance
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Rich MO-FO
Heaven's Lost Property
11
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Posted - 2014.05.22 21:03:00 -
[56] - Quote
So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing?
My Alts are in Real corps
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
948
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Posted - 2014.05.23 04:03:00 -
[57] - Quote
Rich MO-FO wrote:So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? It is for the good of the community, of course they do. |
Rich MO-FO
Heaven's Lost Property
13
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Posted - 2014.05.23 07:20:00 -
[58] - Quote
Fiddlestaxp wrote:Rich MO-FO wrote:So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? It is for the good of the community, of course they do. ^
My Alts are in Real corps
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Brusanan Doesn'tDust
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
22
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Posted - 2014.05.23 07:31:00 -
[59] - Quote
Fiddlestaxp wrote:Rich MO-FO wrote:So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? It is for the good of the community, of course they do. Funny how you weren't complaining about them holding so many districts when they were on your side.
Eve-side diplo for General Tso's Alliance.
I don't actually play Dust.
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Rich MO-FO
Heaven's Lost Property
13
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Posted - 2014.05.23 07:32:00 -
[60] - Quote
Brusanan Doesn'tDust wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:Rich MO-FO wrote:So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? It is for the good of the community, of course they do. Funny how you weren't complaining about them holding so many districts when they were on your side. Nor were FA/AE complaining that ERA was the bad guys.
My Alts are in Real corps
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
576
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Posted - 2014.05.23 07:34:00 -
[61] - Quote
bunnywink wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Somehow I just missed Ari's suggestion, which makes perfect sense. Are there other Japanese corps still around? At the top of my head... S.A.L.U.K.I NF Sounds Unagi PIE 2nd stage They seem pretty active still. yeah NF sound is pretty good do they play PC?
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
951
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Posted - 2014.05.23 07:43:00 -
[62] - Quote
Brusanan Doesn'tDust wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:Rich MO-FO wrote:So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? It is for the good of the community, of course they do. Funny how you weren't complaining about them holding so many districts when they were on your side.
We were a mercenary corp that got caught up in the winds of change. We have had many business models and didn't go back to conquest until AE decided that it was the right thing for the game. We didn't agree at the time, but we embraced it and obviously(They made positive changes to PC) it was.
NS has just followed the same model from the start. Blue up whoever is in power and farm. If you think TP/ERA has been doing that, you aren't familiar with EON history, and what we were doing before The DNS donut. If you can provide an example of Nyain San doing otherwise, please do. As of this moment, they still hold the second most districts ever. They have never communicated any interest in trying to fix the game... They tank spammed because they loved that ****. You can try to defend them, You are the dominant power currently. Being on top makes NS yours, might as well defend them. They seem pretty adept at communicating their intentions when it comes trying to assuage the community and maintain their districts, why not when they want to fix something? |
Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect
1247
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Posted - 2014.05.23 09:03:00 -
[63] - Quote
bunnywink wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Somehow I just missed Ari's suggestion, which makes perfect sense. Are there other Japanese corps still around? At the top of my head... S.A.L.U.K.I NF Sounds Unagi PIE 2nd stage They seem pretty active still. I'm surprised there are as many Japanese players as there are. I thought they generally didn't play FPS or PC (so not into the Dust-Eve link). Maybe that's changing.
The other interesting thing is that the standard of Dust players from Japan seems higher than those from any other country. I don't mean the best Japanese players, I mean the average ones. Do they even have genuinely bad players like the US and Europe produce en masse? |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
576
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Posted - 2014.05.23 09:08:00 -
[64] - Quote
Fiddlestaxp wrote:Brusanan Doesn'tDust wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:Rich MO-FO wrote:So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? It is for the good of the community, of course they do. Funny how you weren't complaining about them holding so many districts when they were on your side. We were a mercenary corp that got caught up in the winds of change. We have had many business models and didn't go back to conquest until AE decided that it was the right thing for the game. We didn't agree at the time, but we embraced it and obviously(They made positive changes to PC) it was. NS has just followed the same model from the start. Blue up whoever is in power and farm. If you think TP/ERA has been doing that, you aren't familiar with EON history, and what we were doing before The DNS donut. If you can provide an example of Nyain San doing otherwise, please do. As of this moment, they still hold the second most districts ever. They have never communicated any interest in trying to fix the game... They tank spammed because they loved that ****. You can try to defend them, You are the dominant power currently. Being on top makes NS yours, might as well defend them. They seem pretty adept at communicating their intentions when it comes trying to assuage the community and maintain their districts, why not when they want to fix something? tell you the truth when i got to play with them in the war they were pretty cool people it kind of changed my view of them.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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