DUST Search - Nyain and the future

i3rutal i3rutas wrote:

LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:

Arirana wrote:

as well as tank spammers, pub stompers, etc.

^This is prettymuch why i utterly despised NS long before I learned about PC politics.

As a new player, there were few easy matches. But most of the time, when i lost or died, it was my fault or for a reason that didn't bother me much. It would be "Oops i shouldnt have went there i got killed" or it would be "damn that guy was almost dead. Must have a better suit. Ill get him next time!".

Not with NS though. The matches would be so incredibly one sided that I would get discouraged and not play for awhile. Its one thing to die cause you made a mistake or got slightly bettered. But with NS, its like you never had a chance. Im shooting people with my militia AR that take no damage, and they kill me in 2 shots. Its not alot of fun to play against people who cant die.

So i would just put the game down for awhile, hope to get some passive SP thinking that maybe it will increase my chances. There were alot of corps that gave me a hard time when I was new, but NS was by far the worst. When i would die out of nowhere and see "Nyain San/Chan" on the kill screen, i knew it was going to be a match devoid of fun. it was like "get a sniper and hide somewhere in the shadow of the MCC, and hope for a better match next time".

Now in all fairness, this is not a behavior unique to NS; The veterans of this game despise new players and run proto squads against their milita fits all the time. It is beyond me why people want to have an eternal 4 digit player population or be kings of an empty game, but I digress. Thats a conversation for another day.

So good luck with your whole PR move. But the irony is, NS has stomped and chased away so many new players, that there are few people left to know or care about you guys.

what do you want me to say? im sorry about the broken game that throws 500k sp players against 40-50 million sp squads. Im sorry that we arent babysitters. i'm sorry that myself and those like me enjoy winning. like i said, this is no PR move, just an announcement.

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Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2758	Posted - 2014.05.16 07:22:00 - [31] - Quote Meanwhile in a game that matters... This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 5015	Posted - 2014.05.16 07:30:00 - [32] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Meanwhile in a game that matters... that game sucks too. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Lord Tug C0NFUCIUS 84	Posted - 2014.05.16 11:48:00 - [33] - Quote Why are people giving Brutas a hard time ? If my calculations are right NS have agreed to give away roughly 30/40 districts !! That's totally f#cking awesome . They could of said b@llocks to you lot we're keeping the 100+ districts !! I'm also real happy to see NS have turned down ringing for the smaller corps . This is great news . I would hope the other big corps will have the same honour as NS are showing regarding the matter. Can't wait to get involved with some real 16 of each battles . This is a great post Brutas . We can make your timers and in time it would be an honour to meet your A-team on the battlefield o7 Hats off to NS / AE / ERA over the past week . They could've been a$$holes and said f#ck all of you and we couldn't of done sh!t about it . Now can people stop with the cry baby sh!t , start farming your isk and let's start bashing the hell out of each other in game .. Peace o7
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 283	Posted - 2014.05.16 14:06:00 - [34] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: You guys aren't actually really that hated for any other reason. You guys are good players, you have your districts on the timer you're active, nobody can fault you for that. The lag playing against you guys is CCP's fault. The only reason people dislike your corp is because you're freaking hoarding a third of the game map. If you stop it, people will stop hating you. And they'll stop attacking you too. Because nobody wants to wake up at freaking 6 AM. If you dropped all but 5-10 districts, you could farm to your heart's content, and you probably would never have to face a mass attack again. first part can agree with. their timers are on their time. no arguement there, lag, blah, ccp game mode is planetary conquest. they own 30% or want to. can't fault them there. so basically what you and the community are wanting is for them to give back they took on YOUR timers and just minimize themselves lol..i hope milkman gets tired of the whining and goes for it all...I'll be right there with him Proof that those where won, not handed over in a strategic alliance move ? Lots of people are saying they made a mistake hqnding stuff to them !
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 287	Posted - 2014.05.16 14:41:00 - [35] - Quote It's their land. They'll do whatever they want to do with it. Hate on them or don't hate on them. Just don't tell them what to do.
Bad Cheetah Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 15	Posted - 2014.05.16 15:39:00 - [36] - Quote Hold what you want NS. If people don't like it, they can try to take it. Haters gonna hate.
Fiddlestaxp Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 917	Posted - 2014.05.16 19:01:00 - [37] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances. our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no. Teamplayers and ERA had a similar mentality at land, In Teamplayers we wanted more land as a buffer against a mass attack. In ERA we wanted more land so that we had a power bloc large enough to keep AE from attacking us(That goal eventually morphed into attack them, at some point) Also you had 25% before DNS... Pretty sure. Regardless, initiate operation Great Dragon. Wait until sunday night and attack everything on the board... You guys are good enough to hold 80%!
CHANCEtheChAn 0uter.Heaven 292	Posted - 2014.05.17 05:30:00 - [38] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: WhataguyTTU wrote: Nice format. Very Unique. Also, welcome aboard, looks like you're part of the "Tiara" princesses. I would still expect some mass attacks to happen in the future. However it's a lot work to get 200 people on board so that only 20% of them will be up at 6am. You're still safe. =p no worries. we always have a pending mass attack on us. and the format was jus trying to get away from the solid block of letters. lol our timers and other faq are answered in the op. I have a few problems with this 1. By holding 30% of Molden Heath you are essentially holding 70-80 districts. It doesn't matter if you held 5 districts or 245 the result would always be the same in a "mass attack", you would not fill but MAYBE one of these battles if ANY with your ENTIRE corp online all at once. If you cannot fill but 1 person, if that, per 75 battles why hold so many if not for alterior purpose? 2. Your timer is at your "prime time" and yet after playing the last few months of DUST, I've clocked Nyain San AND Nyain Chan's "prime time" or at least most of your "A teamers" most active in pub matches between the times of 0:00-4:00 EvE time, and are no where to be found at the 12:00-15:00 timers which are directly contrary to where your timers have been for months. Case in point, you guys have been taking ERA districts at American prime time with your A-team for a week or two now, yet do not see ANY american corp taking multiple districts outside of our "Prime time". 3. You are now in General TSO's alliance, one of the now biggest and most active alliances in DUST to protect you from attack and you STILL need a district barrier with BILLIONS of ISK set aside to feel safe. I feel like there is a problem here whether you don't not trust your alliance or your own strength I do not know. 4. By holding dozens upon dozens of districts you are holding land that you do not need and have openly confessed to have needing no use for except to protect yourselves, while small and new corps sit in pub matches unable to grow in experience and ISK because there is not enough land to go around. Thus you are further halting the progression of DUST exactly as DNS had. If you had any dignity you would drop your district amount down to 25 like we did when we were in power, as it is a perfect buffer against mass attack as it would cost about a billion ISK to be attacked by clone packs, and because most of your districts are cargo hubs, would take several attempts to overtake (Although all your districts are at the same timer so if you wanted to defend correctly you need like 5 districts?). It also allows others to grow in PC around you and provides a good ISK farm. If you "aren't hiding behind timers" you would move your districts to more than one timer If you "aren't hiding behind districts" you would drop your district count to a rreasonable amount I've beaten your best in pubs with stacked teams Yet I have not beaten your best in PC because none of my corps are on to play any of you, yet your whole corp seems to be on to play us I don't mind the meta game, I don't mind the **** talking, I don't mind the backstabbing But I DO mind being lied to openly And especially lying to those who haven't been around long enough to know better Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
Emo Knife Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 6	Posted - 2014.05.17 17:07:00 - [39] - Quote Even when we try to do something good for the community, we still end up being hated somehow or another. There's nothing that will ever satisfy this community, and nyain will always be hated. püƒpüápÇüpüÖpüºpü½µ¡+pü¼pÇé
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 144	Posted - 2014.05.17 17:51:00 - [40] - Quote Arirana wrote: as well as tank spammers, pub stompers, etc. ^This is prettymuch why i utterly despised NS long before I learned about PC politics. As a new player, there were few easy matches. But most of the time, when i lost or died, it was my fault or for a reason that didn't bother me much. It would be "Oops i shouldnt have went there i got killed" or it would be "damn that guy was almost dead. Must have a better suit. Ill get him next time!". Not with NS though. The matches would be so incredibly one sided that I would get discouraged and not play for awhile. Its one thing to die cause you made a mistake or got slightly bettered. But with NS, its like you never had a chance. Im shooting people with my militia AR that take no damage, and they kill me in 2 shots. Its not alot of fun to play against people who cant die. So i would just put the game down for awhile, hope to get some passive SP thinking that maybe it will increase my chances. There were alot of corps that gave me a hard time when I was new, but NS was by far the worst. When i would die out of nowhere and see "Nyain San/Chan" on the kill screen, i knew it was going to be a match devoid of fun. it was like "get a sniper and hide somewhere in the shadow of the MCC, and hope for a better match next time". Now in all fairness, this is not a behavior unique to NS; The veterans of this game despise new players and run proto squads against their milita fits all the time. It is beyond me why people want to have an eternal 4 digit player population or be kings of an empty game, but I digress. Thats a conversation for another day. So good luck with your whole PR move. But the irony is, NS has stomped and chased away so many new players, that there are few people left to know or care about you guys.

Fiddlestaxp Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 929	Posted - 2014.05.17 17:52:00 - [41] - Quote Emo Knife wrote: Even when we try to do something good for the community, we still end up being hated somehow or another. There's nothing that will ever satisfy this community, and nyain will always be hated. Just because you say it I for the good of the community, doesn't mean the community believes you... Pretty hard to justify holding more than 1-2 districts per timer as being "for the community!".
iliel Heaven's Lost Property 50	Posted - 2014.05.17 20:48:00 - [42] - Quote NS - - I've always respected you, even when you attacked all of my corp's land and took it from us. So no need to apologize for your timers. And definitely no need to apologize for winning at a game mode called planetary conquest. But wow, how many people in here, now being your support, just two months ago, a part of PD or some other non-NS alliance, being mutiliated by your team, were saying that your timers are like district locking? Personally, after AE said they were giving up much of their land, and you, Brutal, said NS wanted to keep like 40%, I was a bit shocked. But now, I say, take it all. The game is dying: that is another way of saying it is already dead. You're one of the strongest corps left. So be your own army again. Don't let people who yesterday were your enemy today be your friend: for profit! Today, let us NOT thank heaven for hypocrisy.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2800	Posted - 2014.05.19 14:26:00 - [43] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Meanwhile in a game that matters... that game sucks too. Marvel Heroes is great for some casual slaying of villains. This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
i3rutal i3rutas Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2014.05.19 19:24:00 - [44] - Quote LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Arirana wrote: as well as tank spammers, pub stompers, etc. ^This is prettymuch why i utterly despised NS long before I learned about PC politics. As a new player, there were few easy matches. But most of the time, when i lost or died, it was my fault or for a reason that didn't bother me much. It would be "Oops i shouldnt have went there i got killed" or it would be "damn that guy was almost dead. Must have a better suit. Ill get him next time!". Not with NS though. The matches would be so incredibly one sided that I would get discouraged and not play for awhile. Its one thing to die cause you made a mistake or got slightly bettered. But with NS, its like you never had a chance. Im shooting people with my militia AR that take no damage, and they kill me in 2 shots. Its not alot of fun to play against people who cant die. So i would just put the game down for awhile, hope to get some passive SP thinking that maybe it will increase my chances. There were alot of corps that gave me a hard time when I was new, but NS was by far the worst. When i would die out of nowhere and see "Nyain San/Chan" on the kill screen, i knew it was going to be a match devoid of fun. it was like "get a sniper and hide somewhere in the shadow of the MCC, and hope for a better match next time". Now in all fairness, this is not a behavior unique to NS; The veterans of this game despise new players and run proto squads against their milita fits all the time. It is beyond me why people want to have an eternal 4 digit player population or be kings of an empty game, but I digress. Thats a conversation for another day. So good luck with your whole PR move. But the irony is, NS has stomped and chased away so many new players, that there are few people left to know or care about you guys. what do you want me to say? im sorry about the broken game that throws 500k sp players against 40-50 million sp squads. Im sorry that we arent babysitters. i'm sorry that myself and those like me enjoy winning. like i said, this is no PR move, just an announcement.
i3rutal i3rutas Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2014.05.19 19:39:00 - [45] - Quote Emo Knife wrote: Even when we try to do something good for the community, we still end up being hated somehow or another. There's nothing that will ever satisfy this community, and nyain will always be hated. funny thing is, the guys talking trash represent nothing. especially not the community. people get it in their minds that they have a say over what happens because they put it in public. the real community has been mailing me and receiving land, regardless of what anybody has to say. it doesnt matter what points ppl want to throw out there. im done arguing about all this stuff with people that refuse to hear. you got an issue with us? feel free to contact me in-game to Voice chat. i'll gladly explain any questions you have. this is my final post on this thread.
ragewardog SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 124	Posted - 2014.05.19 19:53:00 - [46] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances. our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no. As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully. The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress. Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution. please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOT TO LOVE NYAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIGHT ZATARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 715	Posted - 2014.05.19 20:17:00 - [47] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: LAVALLOIS Nash wrote: Arirana wrote: as well as tank spammers, pub stompers, etc. ^This is prettymuch why i utterly despised NS long before I learned about PC politics. As a new player, there were few easy matches. But most of the time, when i lost or died, it was my fault or for a reason that didn't bother me much. It would be "Oops i shouldnt have went there i got killed" or it would be "damn that guy was almost dead. Must have a better suit. Ill get him next time!". Not with NS though. The matches would be so incredibly one sided that I would get discouraged and not play for awhile. Its one thing to die cause you made a mistake or got slightly bettered. But with NS, its like you never had a chance. Im shooting people with my militia AR that take no damage, and they kill me in 2 shots. Its not alot of fun to play against people who cant die. So i would just put the game down for awhile, hope to get some passive SP thinking that maybe it will increase my chances. There were alot of corps that gave me a hard time when I was new, but NS was by far the worst. When i would die out of nowhere and see "Nyain San/Chan" on the kill screen, i knew it was going to be a match devoid of fun. it was like "get a sniper and hide somewhere in the shadow of the MCC, and hope for a better match next time". Now in all fairness, this is not a behavior unique to NS; The veterans of this game despise new players and run proto squads against their milita fits all the time. It is beyond me why people want to have an eternal 4 digit player population or be kings of an empty game, but I digress. Thats a conversation for another day. So good luck with your whole PR move. But the irony is, NS has stomped and chased away so many new players, that there are few people left to know or care about you guys. what do you want me to say? im sorry about the broken game that throws 500k sp players against 40-50 million sp squads. Im sorry that we arent babysitters. i'm sorry that myself and those like me enjoy winning. like i said, this is no PR move, just an announcement. Right? I know what you mean, I'm 6'3 and 240 lbs. Is it my fault that the 8 year olds at the park can't block worth **** when we play football? I mean, the goal IS to win isn't it? So yeah, I totally get why you have full squads stomping pub Ambush. I mean endless games of going 30-0 is fun as hell and it helps the other team build character. I, for one, love you guys. Because, that's why.
Code Slucid Dust 514 On Life Support 67	Posted - 2014.05.20 13:56:00 - [48] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances. our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no. As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully. The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress. Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution. please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support You guys remind me when PC was starting & eon was fighting a alliance Won't name cause you guys should know already and they had crazy timers! You guys could say that they good or bad IDC That fact is that their timers were major break point in PC cause it impossible to have a good squad ready around that time &!!! not only that, how long it take to get even 5% of their district? If they never gave up there land they would of be in the same situation as you guys
bunnywink 775	Posted - 2014.05.20 14:35:00 - [49] - Quote There are still districts being given away, so I don't really see a problem with this. People are just whining that their piece of the cake is bigger, but there is still cake to be had. G£+ PSN: bunnywink G£+ SKYPE: bunnywink G£+ EVE: Erica Durance
Derrith Erador The Last of DusT. 1904	Posted - 2014.05.20 15:03:00 - [50] - Quote bunnywink wrote: There are still districts being given away, so I don't really see a problem with this. People are just whining that their piece of the cake is bigger, but there is still cake to be had. Can I has pie instead? Betty White, the worlds hottest grandma.

Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3050	Posted - 2014.05.21 23:43:00 - [51] - Quote Somehow I just missed Ari's suggestion, which makes perfect sense. Are there other Japanese corps still around? CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
1st Lady Tiberius Inner.Hell 0	Posted - 2014.05.22 06:08:00 - [52] - Quote Arirana wrote: I have no idea if there are still other Japanese corps that can compete in PC, but if there are Nyain should give them the remainder of the land they are willing to part with. That way they have some competition in their own timezone rather than being the only Japanese corp in PC I agree Z this is definitely a solid suggestion, could this be done?
DJINN n Juice Finger Popping Inc. 78	Posted - 2014.05.22 13:20:00 - [53] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Somehow I just missed Ari's suggestion, which makes perfect sense. Are there other Japanese corps still around? i know saluki is still around and i know there are a couple others at most, but i als know that their is a bitter rivalry with all the japanese corps. something about hentai vs. tenticle **** hentai.
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 364	Posted - 2014.05.22 14:06:00 - [54] - Quote RavenClawArts is japanese based. My friend Himatubusi left our old corp (sephiroth clones) to join them for that sole reason. He is a very talented amar logi, and the few in his current corp i've played were on the competitive level XD Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
bunnywink 791	Posted - 2014.05.22 19:56:00 - [55] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Somehow I just missed Ari's suggestion, which makes perfect sense. Are there other Japanese corps still around? At the top of my head... S.A.L.U.K.I NF Sounds Unagi PIE 2nd stage They seem pretty active still. G£+ PSN: bunnywink G£+ SKYPE: bunnywink G£+ EVE: Erica Durance
Rich MO-FO Heaven's Lost Property 11	Posted - 2014.05.22 21:03:00 - [56] - Quote So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? My Alts are in Real corps
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 948	Posted - 2014.05.23 04:03:00 - [57] - Quote Rich MO-FO wrote: So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? It is for the good of the community, of course they do.
Rich MO-FO Heaven's Lost Property 13	Posted - 2014.05.23 07:20:00 - [58] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Rich MO-FO wrote: So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? It is for the good of the community, of course they do. ^ My Alts are in Real corps
Brusanan Doesn'tDust Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 22	Posted - 2014.05.23 07:31:00 - [59] - Quote Fiddlestaxp wrote: Rich MO-FO wrote: So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? It is for the good of the community, of course they do. Funny how you weren't complaining about them holding so many districts when they were on your side. Eve-side diplo for General Tso's Alliance. I don't actually play Dust.
Rich MO-FO Heaven's Lost Property 13	Posted - 2014.05.23 07:32:00 - [60] - Quote Brusanan Doesn'tDust wrote: Fiddlestaxp wrote: Rich MO-FO wrote: So still wanting to hold 28-30% even if I generates almost nothing/nothing? It is for the good of the community, of course they do. Funny how you weren't complaining about them holding so many districts when they were on your side. Nor were FA/AE complaining that ERA was the bad guys. My Alts are in Real corps



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