DUST Search - Nyain and the future

Ric Barlom wrote:

i3rutal i3rutas wrote:

We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances.

our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no.

As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully.

The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress.

Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution.

please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support

Bro, you need to strike NOW! I appreciate your benevolence, my man, but now is not the time to be soft on the community. You need to go out there and go to work! You need to increase your landmass to about 50% ASAP, increase your ROI, skyrocket the morale among the guys. The community's weak, man. They're practically giving you these planets. Are you man enough to take them?

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i3rutal i3rutas Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.05.15 17:24:00 - [1] - Quote We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances. our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no. As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully. The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress. Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution. please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support
D4GG3R Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 256	Posted - 2014.05.15 17:44:00 - [2] - Quote Well there you have it community, Nyain decides to keep a third of Molden Heath yet we are still the bad guys...? Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 262	Posted - 2014.05.15 17:45:00 - [3] - Quote Nice format. Very Unique. Also, welcome aboard, looks like you're part of the "Tiara" princesses. I would still expect some mass attacks to happen in the future. However it's a lot work to get 200 people on board so that only 20% of them will be up at 6am. You're still safe. =p
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 262	Posted - 2014.05.15 17:47:00 - [4] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: Well there you have it community, Nyain decides to keep a third of Molden Heath yet we are still the bad guys...? Lol, no laziness and lack of will of early morning assaults are keepng people ignorant of the hate. =P I could get up 2 hrs early before work in the morning......buuuuuuuuttt....
i3rutal i3rutas Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2014.05.15 17:50:00 - [5] - Quote WhataguyTTU wrote: Nice format. Very Unique. Also, welcome aboard, looks like you're part of the "Tiara" princesses. I would still expect some mass attacks to happen in the future. However it's a lot work to get 200 people on board so that only 20% of them will be up at 6am. You're still safe. =p no worries. we always have a pending mass attack on us. and the format was jus trying to get away from the solid block of letters. lol our timers and other faq are answered in the op.
Baan Mee Ho Expert Intervention Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.05.15 18:02:00 - [6] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: Well there you have it community, Nyain decides to keep a third of Molden Heath yet we are still the bad guys...? Everyone else will always be the Bad guys... No matter what they do.... They are the Saints :)
i3rutal i3rutas Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2014.05.15 18:07:00 - [7] - Quote Baan Mee Ho wrote: D4GG3R wrote: Well there you have it community, Nyain decides to keep a third of Molden Heath yet we are still the bad guys...? Everyone else will always be the Bad guys... No matter what they do.... They are the Saints :) look around you fool. weve never been saints of anything. we are the most hated group in this game. so you do nothing but dog my every word when im doing my best to change the way we're viewed? give me a break.
Baan Mee Ho Expert Intervention Caldari State 34	Posted - 2014.05.15 18:38:00 - [8] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: Baan Mee Ho wrote: D4GG3R wrote: Well there you have it community, Nyain decides to keep a third of Molden Heath yet we are still the bad guys...? Everyone else will always be the Bad guys... No matter what they do.... They are the Saints :) look around you fool. weve never been saints of anything. we are the most hated group in this game. so you do nothing but dog my every word when im doing my best to change the way we're viewed? give me a break. The Best way for you to do anything at this point would be to give Most of the Districts up and Become Concord... At this point you gotta do something drastic to get some good PR.... Be Concord, Be unbiased, Leave Blue Donuts and Police PC... Calling People names and saying stuff like We will Hold what we have for X,Y,Z Reasons... Doesn't help with PR Work... People hate you guys more than they hate CCP...
D4GG3R Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 259	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:00:00 - [9] - Quote I don't wanna be a d!ck but you aren't doing the best you can, you don't need to keep 30% of MH "for strength in case of a mass attack." If you had less districts you wouldn't get mass attacked, that is a terrible excuse to mask selfishness. Honestly idc if you hold onto the districts, I'll go fight for them if I want them, but please lie to us better next time. I look forward to alarm clocking you guys in the future<3 Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
dy5t0pia The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 501	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:28:00 - [10] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances. our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no. As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully. The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress. Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution. please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support Would you mind contacting me in game please, I am interested in acquiring a district from you guys. CEO Closed Beta Vet

i3rutal i3rutas Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:55:00 - [11] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: I don't wanna be a d!ck but you aren't doing the best you can, you don't need to keep 30% of MH "for strength in case of a mass attack." If you had less districts you wouldn't get mass attacked, that is a terrible excuse to mask selfishness. Honestly idc if you hold onto the districts, I'll go fight for them if I want them, but please lie to us better next time. I look forward to alarm clocking you guys in the future<3 what makes you think we wouldnt be mass attacked? all the suddon everybody loves us? how about you just go ahead and QQ. we fought for whats ours. and we're keeping what we had b4 we were in that mislead alliance.. why in the world do you think we need anymore isk? it isnt about that. if it was we would keep what we have and keep pushing people out. but its not. and about you alarm clocking us? im not here to start a fight but jeez, at least try to sound menacing.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2540	Posted - 2014.05.15 19:57:00 - [12] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. You need a third of all land in the game to protect yourselves from a mass attack? o_o I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2540	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:05:00 - [13] - Quote You guys aren't actually really that hated for any other reason. You guys are good players, you have your districts on the timer you're active, nobody can fault you for that. The lag playing against you guys is CCP's fault. The only reason people dislike your corp is because you're freaking hoarding a third of the game map. If you stop it, people will stop hating you. And they'll stop attacking you too. Because nobody wants to wake up at freaking 6 AM. If you dropped all but 5-10 districts, you could farm to your heart's content, and you probably would never have to face a mass attack again. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Ahkhomi Cypher Team Bad Decisions 42	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:08:00 - [14] - Quote +1 I like how in a PR statement NS went G mode and said "we keepin 30% of the dust universe, do something bout it muhfucka. Act up and we taking more"
Flyingconejo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1022	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:38:00 - [15] - Quote WhataguyTTU wrote: Nice format. Very Unique. For some reason, the Star Wars opening theme was sounding in my head while I was reading it.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1118	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:39:00 - [16] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: You guys aren't actually really that hated for any other reason. You guys are good players, you have your districts on the timer you're active, nobody can fault you for that. The lag playing against you guys is CCP's fault. The only reason people dislike your corp is because you're freaking hoarding a third of the game map. If you stop it, people will stop hating you. And they'll stop attacking you too. Because nobody wants to wake up at freaking 6 AM. If you dropped all but 5-10 districts, you could farm to your heart's content, and you probably would never have to face a mass attack again. first part can agree with. their timers are on their time. no arguement there, lag, blah, ccp game mode is planetary conquest. they own 30% or want to. can't fault them there. so basically what you and the community are wanting is for them to give back they took on YOUR timers and just minimize themselves lol..i hope milkman gets tired of the whining and goes for it all...I'll be right there with him "CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2540	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:47:00 - [17] - Quote bigolenuts, New Eden is New Eden. I'm just telling them their PR is bad, their logic is stupid, and if they want to avoid mass attacks, getting rid of districts is the way to do it. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
BLUNT SMKR Ahrendee Mercenaries 62	Posted - 2014.05.15 20:59:00 - [18] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no. idk wat anyone says thats bullshit u guys hide behind that excuse so much all ur timers are on the same time most corps that arent scared of being attack would have there timers more spread out n i'm not saying spread them out like 6-7 hours apart more like 1-2hr making it somewat easier for people to attack NS is a big corp so i doubt they can only field a full team at 1200 only. actually i'm positive cause u guys used to attack us all the time at all kinds of early timers lol So wat are u guys scared of there aint no competition left in this game so i doubt u would need ur "greatest players" to beat anyone thats left lol. oh well i'm glad i'm done with this game peace have fun playing pointless farmville TeamWork>KDR I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
Texas Killionaire Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 193	Posted - 2014.05.15 21:08:00 - [19] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: bigolenuts, New Eden is New Eden. I'm just telling them their PR is bad, their logic is stupid, and if they want to avoid mass attacks, getting rid of districts is the way to do it. Well they must be doing something right. Every time we've dealt with them or PCed with them, they've been very reasonable and accommodating. But keep trying to make em look bad. I'm sure they care. If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win. Jello Biafra = God AQUPI
Arirana Ancient Exiles. 684	Posted - 2014.05.15 21:14:00 - [20] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: bigolenuts, New Eden is New Eden. I'm just telling them their PR is bad, their logic is stupid, and if they want to avoid mass attacks, getting rid of districts is the way to do it. There were threads being made to eliminate them with mass attacks back when they only had 15%. The source of their bad PR isn't from holding a large slice of land, though that is a factor. Even if they give up land there are still going to be those that view them as foreigners hiding behind their timers, as well as tank spammers, pub stompers, etc. They earned their land through setting their alarm clocks in the early morning, playing on holidays and weekends just so they can fight NA and EU corps. If you haven't noticed, there isn't a single other Japanese corp to compete with them in PC. The reason why everyone avoids attacking them is because there are much easier targets for them to choose from, while Nyain has no choice but to set their alarm clocks and play at awkward times if they want to take land. The massive amount of land that they have taken I have no doubt was FAR from easy to acquire. Of course Nyain has employed the help of AE in recent months to take land for them, but only when they have stacked timers. They still have their players waking up at 1-11am in their timezone to fight. I have no idea if there are still other Japanese corps that can compete in PC, but if there are Nyain should give them the remainder of the land they are willing to part with. That way they have some competition in their own timezone rather than being the only Japanese corp in PC

Mr Machine Guns Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 727	Posted - 2014.05.15 21:26:00 - [21] - Quote BLUNT SMKR wrote: i3rutal i3rutas wrote: and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no. idk wat anyone says thats bullshit u guys hide behind that excuse so much all ur timers are on the same time most corps that arent scared of being attack would have there timers more spread out n i'm not saying spread them out like 6-7 hours apart more like 1-2hr making it somewat easier for people to attack NS is a big corp so i doubt they can only field a full team at 1200 only. actually i'm positive cause u guys used to attack us all the time at all kinds of early timers lol So wat are u guys scared of there aint no competition left in this game so i doubt u would need ur "greatest players" to beat anyone thats left lol. oh well i'm glad i'm done with this game peace have fun playing pointless farmville but downtime is at primetime in japan so that gets rid of one entire timer for us
Ric Barlom 423	Posted - 2014.05.15 21:42:00 - [22] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances. our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no. As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully. The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress. Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution. please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support Bro, you need to strike NOW! I appreciate your benevolence, my man, but now is not the time to be soft on the community. You need to go out there and go to work! You need to increase your landmass to about 50% ASAP, increase your ROI, skyrocket the morale among the guys. The community's weak, man. They're practically giving you these planets. Are you man enough to take them? Who gave out my Monday to Friday phone number!? I don't wanna be getting any phone calls! I've put Dust way behind me!
D4GG3R Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 262	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:11:00 - [23] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: D4GG3R wrote: I don't wanna be a d!ck but you aren't doing the best you can, you don't need to keep 30% of MH "for strength in case of a mass attack." If you had less districts you wouldn't get mass attacked, that is a terrible excuse to mask selfishness. Honestly idc if you hold onto the districts, I'll go fight for them if I want them, but please lie to us better next time. I look forward to alarm clocking you guys in the future<3 what makes you think we wouldnt be mass attacked? all the suddon everybody loves us? how about you just go ahead and QQ. we fought for whats ours. and we're keeping what we had b4 we were in that mislead alliance.. why in the world do you think we need anymore isk? it isnt about that. if it was we would keep what we have and keep pushing people out. but its not. and about you alarm clocking us? im not here to start a fight but jeez, at least try to sound menacing. I don't think you understand. You can't be mass attacked if you don't have a massive amount of districts. I 100% guarantee if you merely held 15 districts and dropped the rest that you would be left alone completely. You don't need the isk, you said it yourself, right? Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
D4GG3R Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 262	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:16:00 - [24] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: game mode is planetary conquest. they own 30% or want to. can't fault them there. so basically what you and the community are wanting is for them to give back they took on YOUR timers and just minimize themselves lol..i hope milkman gets tired of the whining and goes for it all...I'll be right there with him They can keep the land all they want. But if they do, then they need to stop wondering why they are hated and also shut the he11 up about being mass attacked. If you have 30% of land in a game, I hate to break it to you guys, but you're gonna get mass attacked. Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
i3rutal i3rutas Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:27:00 - [25] - Quote It doesn't matter what we say or do. we will never be liked by everyone. the talks about our timers are rediculous. we have said we dont want to take any more and were giving away alot. still you want more.... theres no pleasing everybody. and really no reason to please the community that hates us. aside from just wanting to see little corps in the starmap again.
i3rutal i3rutas Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:33:00 - [26] - Quote D4GG3R wrote: bigolenuts wrote: game mode is planetary conquest. they own 30% or want to. can't fault them there. so basically what you and the community are wanting is for them to give back they took on YOUR timers and just minimize themselves lol..i hope milkman gets tired of the whining and goes for it all...I'll be right there with him They can keep the land all they want. But if they do, then they need to stop wondering why they are hated and also shut the he11 up about being mass attacked. If you have 30% of land in a game, I hate to break it to you guys, but you're gonna get mass attacked. Please show me where i said i was afraid of being mass attacked? in fact im pretty sure i said that one is always around the corner. we dont like it but it gets handled.
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2848	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:33:00 - [27] - Quote Ric Barlom wrote: i3rutal i3rutas wrote: We know that many will hate us for it and many will respect our choice. but NS has decided to hold inbetween 28-30% of MH. which is around what we held before joinind DNS. we would like everyone to know that we are still active in pc. we will defend our land nomatter what, but we dont want to take anything else unless under extreme circumstances. our reasoning for holding that land isnt for isk. its just for strength in case of a mass attack. we really dont need anymore isk. and FYI, our timers are set at 1200. our greatest players are online then. would our enemies change their timers to 6am to be nice? or fair? no. As for the "blue donut" convo... i'm not entirely sure what it is that makes a "blue donut". but i do know that we want PC to be different. we have already turned down requests from small corps for ringers, especially when facing another small corp. we want to see small wars again. not always coalition vs coalition. were done being the bully. The hard part is trying to keep other strong corps on the same page, enemy or friendly. i'd love to see strong corps with the self discipline to not attack their smaller weaker neighbors. it will be a work in progress. Finally, if you believe your corp can hold a district and you have enough active players, you should contact "brutal BRUTAS" in game. we have already began the redistribution. please be patient as were speaking with multiple corporations, and thanks all for the support Bro, you need to strike NOW! I appreciate your benevolence, my man, but now is not the time to be soft on the community. You need to go out there and go to work! You need to increase your landmass to about 50% ASAP, increase your ROI, skyrocket the morale among the guys. The community's weak, man. They're practically giving you these planets. Are you man enough to take them? I'll play along here, then why should I stay playing DUST if I was a little guy? I AM 1337 Approved
D4GG3R Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 266	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:48:00 - [28] - Quote i3rutal i3rutas wrote: D4GG3R wrote: bigolenuts wrote: game mode is planetary conquest. they own 30% or want to. can't fault them there. so basically what you and the community are wanting is for them to give back they took on YOUR timers and just minimize themselves lol..i hope milkman gets tired of the whining and goes for it all...I'll be right there with him They can keep the land all they want. But if they do, then they need to stop wondering why they are hated and also shut the he11 up about being mass attacked. If you have 30% of land in a game, I hate to break it to you guys, but you're gonna get mass attacked. Please show me where i said i was afraid of being mass attacked? in fact im pretty sure i said that one is always around the corner. we dont like it but it gets handled. Show me where I said you were afraid of mass attacks. Shout out to all my Pre-1.8 scout brothers!
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2548	Posted - 2014.05.16 03:39:00 - [29] - Quote Our point isn't fear. Our point is that people will actually not hate you, and not attack you, if you don't hold 30% of Molden Heath. You're getting your cause and effect messed up. We don't really dislike you. And we don't really want to get up at the crack of dawn to play DUST. The only reason people mass attack you, is because you're holding a third of the districts. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
i3rutal i3rutas Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2014.05.16 07:12:00 - [30] - Quote lol this has gotten out of hand. we were mass attacked when we had 15% also. If any of you look at the op, i wasnt whining or complaining about the attacks. hell it wasnt even PR. it was a simple announcement.



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