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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:53:00 -
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But when you look at the stats
BF3 BF4
Looks like PS3/PS4 are constantly either the same, or higher.
So.... yeah.The "dead platform" has the same if not more players than PC on the same games.
BF3 on PC supports more players online and better graphics and some additional environments/maps. YET PS3 by itself is mostly toppling the PC, let alone the PS4.
Difference between BF3/4 and Dust? BF 3/4 were actually advertised and supported.
I love how people like to act like PC>PS3/4 for game success, not even close.
Even Planetside 2 is not really beating out Dust 514.
You could even notably see the population was increasing since December....
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Funkmaster Whale
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2014.05.15 16:56:00 -
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You really won't ever give will you?
You make a dozen threads a week about the same topic ad have continued to do so since the Legion announcement.
Also, check Steam statistics. Try to factor in more than one or two games for your "data".
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Baan Mee Ho
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:02:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:You really won't ever give will you? You make a dozen threads a week about the same topic ad have continued to do so since the Legion announcement. Also, check Steam statistics. Try to factor in more than one or two games for your "data".
I guess he is as mad as everyone else who spent two years being Beta testers for a PC game.... |
TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
3364
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:05:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:You really won't ever give will you? You make a dozen threads a week about the same topic ad have continued to do so since the Legion announcement. Also, check Steam statistics. Try to factor in more than one or two games for your "data".
He also doesn't realise that trash like the bf series is nothing short of mediocre on the PC.
Eve Legion FTW!
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
446
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:08:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:You really won't ever give will you? You make a dozen threads a week about the same topic ad have continued to do so since the Legion announcement. Also, check Steam statistics. Try to factor in more than one or two games for your "data".
SO why don't you show me a more accurate comparison? We have the SAME EXACT GAME across multiple platforms.
TF2/CS are not comparible because
A) there is no equivalent on consoles
b) there is no multiplayer game as ingrained into playstation or XBOX as CS/TF2 are into steam.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:18:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:You really won't ever give will you? You make a dozen threads a week about the same topic ad have continued to do so since the Legion announcement. Also, check Steam statistics. Try to factor in more than one or two games for your "data". He also doesn't realise that trash like the bf series is nothing short of mediocre on the PC. Thats funny seing as BF 3 is the 25th best selling game of all-time on PC.
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Funkmaster Whale
Ancient Exiles.
2255
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:27:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:SO why don't you show me a more accurate comparison? We have the SAME EXACT GAME across multiple platforms.
TF2/CS are not comparible because
A) there is no equivalent on consoles
b) there is no multiplayer game as ingrained into playstation or XBOX as CS/TF2 are into steam. Because I don't care to argue with you?
You're a troll who's going to keep spewing the same crap over and over again regardless of what people tell you. The PC/Console back and forth has been said and done a million times.
No one cares. Now stop making these threads, please.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
446
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:39:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:SO why don't you show me a more accurate comparison? We have the SAME EXACT GAME across multiple platforms.
TF2/CS are not comparible because
A) there is no equivalent on consoles
b) there is no multiplayer game as ingrained into playstation or XBOX as CS/TF2 are into steam. Because I don't care to argue with you? You're a troll who's going to keep spewing the same crap over and over again regardless of what people tell you. The PC/Console back and forth has been said and done a million times. No one cares. Now stop making these threads, please. translation:
"I am a PCmasterracists who cannot back up ANY of my claims, so I am just going to plug my ears and run away"
Yep, classic PCMasterracists.
I guess maybe Halo was like that, Halo 3 remained well over 100k for over 2 years....
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:47:00 -
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Yes.
Trash like bf suckers people in and then they get bored of it within about a month.
Eve Legion FTW!
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.15 17:47:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:But when you look at the stats BF3BF4Looks like PS3/PS4 are constantly either the same, or higher. So.... yeah.The "dead platform" has the same if not more players than PC on the same games. BF3 on PC supports more players online and better graphics and some additional environments/maps. YET PS3 by itself is mostly toppling the PC, let alone the PS4. Difference between BF3/4 and Dust? BF 3/4 were actually advertised and supported. I love how people like to act like PC>PS3/4 for game success, not even close. Even Planetside 2 is not really beating out Dust 514. You could even notably see the population was increasing since December....
I am impressed with your dedication to your position.
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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
752
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:06:00 -
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Dust is a garbage game that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. CCP chose to rebuild it for PC for a host of reasons, not just number of players.
Deal with it. |
Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
447
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:09:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Dust is a garbage game that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. CCP chose to rebuild it for PC for a host of reasons, not just number of players.
Deal with it.
So you are saying that CCP was unhappy with the way Dust turned out, and as a result they decided to make the game all over again, with the same team at the same office except this time they wanted some more EA people?
Are you listening to yourself?
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:11:00 -
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Funkmaster Whale wrote:You really won't ever give up will you? You make a dozen threads a week about the same topic ad have continued to do so since the Legion announcement. Also, check Steam statistics. Try to factor in more than one or two games for your "data". As a TF and CS vet I am thoroughly surprised by those statistics. Both games have become remedial with little to zero competition and skill involvement.
Back to the subject; Who cares? Honestly you're willing to be another test bunny for CCP? If Legion was released on the PS4 would you really be willing to spend money on it? Whether or not which platform has a larger player base, which would be PC by far, is irrelevant. CCP has always been a PC company, failed at console gamer, now going back to their roots. Yes we are being abandoned in the process. You think they care? No. Why should we? |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
752
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:22:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Dust is a garbage game that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. CCP chose to rebuild it for PC for a host of reasons, not just number of players.
Deal with it. So you are saying that CCP was unhappy with the way Dust turned out, and as a result they decided to make the game all over again, with the same team at the same office except this time they wanted some more EA people? Are you listening to yourself?
Yeah, I'm sure it's way more efficient to Commissar everyone who was associated with Dust and burn the Shanghai office to the ground. Then, after the smoke clears, spend more money and time shopping for a different development house.
Or, I suppose they could have learned a lot from the mistakes previously made with Dust and use that experience to make a better game on a platform they are more comfortable with.
But no, your Scorched Earth policy probably sounds better... |
Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
451
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:31:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Funkmaster Whale wrote:You really won't ever give up will you? You make a dozen threads a week about the same topic ad have continued to do so since the Legion announcement. Also, check Steam statistics. Try to factor in more than one or two games for your "data". As a TF and CS vet I am thoroughly surprised by those statistics. Both games have become remedial with little to zero competition and skill involvement. Back to the subject; Who cares? Honestly you're willing to be another test bunny for CCP? If Legion was released on the PS4 would you really be willing to spend money on it? Whether or not which platform has a larger player base, which would be PC by far, is irrelevant. CCP has always been a PC company, failed at console gamer, now going back to their roots. Yes we are being abandoned in the process. You think they care? No. Why should we? This is such a lie though. The PC gaming base isn't anywhere near the size of the console gaming base, I am so sick of hearing neckbeards say this. Go look at any list of best selling games by platform all-time. Consoles OWN that list, and this is with considerable disadvantage (console games are really only sold for that consoles lifespan, not the 10-20 years of a PC title.)
On top of this, the performance PC game market is absolutely tiny by comparison. Best selling games on the PC? Minecraft, the sims, WOW, HL2. None of those games require even decently strong GPUs. Most of the 25 billion dollar PC market is based around MMOs, and a huge chunk of that MMO money is from games you play through a browser.
It is not an uncommon complaint from PC gamers that they feel left out, overlooked, and forgotten when it comes to the AAA game market.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:32:00 -
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Albert Einstein wrote:Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
- Same DEV Team? G£ô
- Same Engine? G£ô
- Same Leadership? G£ô
Well, CCP is officially insane by Einstein's standards.
How pathetic.
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:33:00 -
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What you fail to understand is CCP's simple minded idiocity. They assume that every Eve player will aswell get Legion which adds up to a half decent amount of players. And thats all there it is to know about "why CCP is doing this".
TL;DR -Eve players=Legion players = $$$. |
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.05.15 18:38:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:What you fail to understand is CCP's simple minded idiocity. They assume that every Eve player will aswell get Legion which adds up to a half decent amount of players. And thats all there it is to know about "why CCP is doing this".
TL;DR -Eve players=Legion players = $$$.
I think they assume correctly. As you can mostly AFK on EVE, might as well have something else to do...
I 'support' EVE:Legion. Since the PS4 is just a dream, make it easy to sell our characters and our Beta access...
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Albert Einstein wrote:Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Same DEV Team? G£ô
- Same Engine? G£ô
- Same Leadership? G£ô
Well, CCP is officially insane by Einstein's standards. How pathetic.
Well they certainly tried over and over again with the pslol3.
They also made a pretty insane decision to go on a venture on a platform unfamiliar to them against what 80% or more of their player base wanted and simultaneously trying cutting edge stuff with cross platform integration.
Now they are going back to a machine where most of their player base is and are familiar with.
I'd say the insanity is over now.
Eve Legion FTW!
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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
754
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:42:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Albert Einstein wrote:Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Same DEV Team? G£ô
- Same Engine? G£ô
- Same Leadership? G£ô
Well, CCP is officially insane by Einstein's standards. How pathetic.
You know what else is pathetic? Crying on the forums because a developer has decided to revamp their game on a different, and arguably better, platform rather than allowing it to languish on the PS3.
You can either dry those tears and work towards making Legion a better game or you can continue to **** your pants and throw a tantrum. Either way, Legion is still coming to PC. |
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
458
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:51:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Albert Einstein wrote:Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Same DEV Team? G£ô
- Same Engine? G£ô
- Same Leadership? G£ô
Well, CCP is officially insane by Einstein's standards. How pathetic. No they needed more EA, you know because EA is loved by gamers and all.
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Warbot Titan X
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:52:00 -
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All I know is that CCP are idiots for starting dust on a console period. Do I like their movement to PC starting on console, no. They raped us from behind. But oh well. It's business for them.
My scout trousers commands me!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.15 19:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Albert Einstein wrote:Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Same DEV Team? G£ô
- Same Engine? G£ô
- Same Leadership? G£ô
Well, CCP is officially insane by Einstein's standards. How pathetic.
Wait same leadership?
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:06:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote: You know what else is pathetic? Crying on the forums because a developer has decided to revamp their game on a different, and arguably better, platform rather than allowing it to languish on the PS3.
You can either dry those tears and work towards making Legion a better game or you can continue to **** your pants and throw a tantrum. Either way, Legion is still coming to PC.
Crying would imply that I am whining about something.
Would you like to bold the part in my post where I whine about something? I think your confusing crying with calling an entity out on their incompetence. It's the latter.
Though I find your whining/crying over me insulting CCP to be quite amusing, if not ironically hypocritical.
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pseudosnipre
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:06:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Albert Einstein wrote:Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Same DEV Team? G£ô
- Same Engine? G£ô
- Same Leadership? G£ô
Well, CCP is officially insane by Einstein's standards. How pathetic. How dare you mention those names together in the same breath! Quick, remove it before they twist your words!!!
Ooops, too late...
CCP Rouge wrote:Confirmed: CCP held to Einsteinian standard by playerbase. Says one gamer, "this game is insane!"
Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
8530
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Wait same leadership?
So the CCP Rouge is being fired?
Unless CCP pays people to do absolutely nothing (which would explain a lot), CCP Rouge won't have a job very soon.
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Hecarim Van Hohen
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:32:00 -
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Mary Lilac wrote:No they needed more EA, you know because EA is loved by gamers and all. Well people hate EA but yet they rake in money like it's nothing.
You know why?
Same reason that people complain that they want innovative games, which they actually don't. [Link]
ps. TF2 came out on the xbox 360 in the Orange Box so technically you could compare that but we don't want to (can't might be more accurate) do that, it might mess with your "data"
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
2915
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:36:00 -
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PC has never had more players than consoles, however, it had seen massive growth over the last few years... especially relative to consoles (for a variety of reasons).
http://www.steamgifts.com/forum/YAKms/2005-2012-pc-vs-console-gaming-population-growth-rates |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
609
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:37:00 -
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i dont see why its so hard to make a quality game on ps3 for ccp all the have to do is hire some ps3 programmers that have actually progamed fps games on ps3 before, giving up because its 'to hard' is not an excuse when there are so many other games out there that surpas dust in many ways. spending money on cheap chinese labor when you could have hired quality programers over a quantity of programers, not that chinese people cant program but what was the last AAA or AA game to come out of china, consoles arnt even a thing in china that was one of the first fuk ups ccp made with dust, its to hard is just not a good excuse for abandoning dust.
Moving to pc was totally bulshlt on ccps part ps4 expansion was expected with an ever evolving game like dust not complete abandonment for a platform most of their play testers probly wont migrate to, im not against multi platform support but ccp has no intention as far as we know to make legion or dust multi platform |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
2915
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:40:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:Moving to pc was totally bulshlt on ccps part ps4 expansion was expected with an ever evolving game like dust not complete abandonment for a platform most of their play testers probly wont migrate to, im not against multi platform support but ccp has no intention as far as we know to make legion or dust multi platform
Dust was/is so bad it pretty much needs complete platform abandonment.
PC or PS4 are both equally valid choices to move the game to. |
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