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Aramis Madrigal wrote:

RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:

Also any food that I have bought that's imported from the USA has to have the ingredients labeled on a sticker.

A chocolate bar will read standard ingredients.

The sticker with the real ingredients placed on top will list all the genetically modified ingredients by law.

There must be people who aren't even aware as companies obviously don't have to list everything.

Its their right.......right?.

Reese's pieces are rammed with gm crap.

Below is a link to the US code of federal regulations with regard to food labeling. Different countries have different requirements with regard to nomenclature, recommended serving sizes, standards of identity, etc, which is the reason for the sticker. The EU does have a standard for labeling of GMO components and does allow GMO ingredients, particularly glyphosate resistant crop varietals. Regarding Reese's pieces, the hydrogenated vegetable oil, corn syrup, likely the dextrose, soy lecithin and modified cornstarch are from GMO's. The vast majority of corn and soybeans are GMOs, so anything with ingredients derived from these plants will have GMO ingredients. Food companies are required by law to list all ingredients in any food product, although the US lacks a GMO labeling policy. I would argue that inadequate labeling is rather far down the list of problems with the food economy, although I do advocate for full and accurate labeling, including GMOs.
Regarding the state of the EU food system, I applaud the tighter ingredient, GRAS and labeling standards, but it doesn't seem to have done much for the health of the continent. Europe has similar levels of obesity and associated co-morbidities as much of the rest of the developed world.

Cheers,

Aramis

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RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 17:59:00 - [1] - Quote Packed lunches from home in the USA will require a doctors note otherwise a child has to eat school food..........which is usually nasty fatty rubbish with nothing that actually revitalises anyone. How do people feel about this?. It might just be one state but being forced to eat sht or having to have a medical reason to eat healthy food is one of the most backwards things I have ever heard. I'm not American but this infuriates me and I feel sorry for parents who have been hit with this idiocy. I can't believe that the most patriotic humans are also some of the most oppressed. Stockholm syndrome much?. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1039	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:01:00 - [2] - Quote If this isn't the cause of war... this doesn't belong here. Xeroo.Cool on Skype. Kyle720 on PSN
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1078	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:01:00 - [3] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Packed lunches from home in the USA will require a doctors note otherwise a child has to eat school food..........which is usually nasty fatty rubbish with nothing that actually revitalises anyone. How do people feel about this?. It might just be one state but being forced to eat sht or having to have a medical reason to eat healthy food is one of the most backwards things I have ever heard. I'm not American but this infuriates me and I feel sorry for parents who have been hit with this idiocy. I can't believe that the most patriotic humans are also some of the most oppressed. Stockholm syndrome much?. Do you even PC brah? "CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:08:00 - [4] - Quote Also any food that I have bought that's imported from the USA has to have the ingredients labeled on a sticker. A chocolate bar will read standard ingredients. The sticker with the real ingredients placed on top will list all the genetically modified ingredients by law. There must be people who aren't even aware as companies obviously don't have to list everything. Its their right.......right?. Reese's pieces are rammed with gm crap. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:08:00 - [5] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Packed lunches from home in the USA will require a doctors note otherwise a child has to eat school food..........which is usually nasty fatty rubbish with nothing that actually revitalises anyone. How do people feel about this?. It might just be one state but being forced to eat sht or having to have a medical reason to eat healthy food is one of the most backwards things I have ever heard. I'm not American but this infuriates me and I feel sorry for parents who have been hit with this idiocy. I can't believe that the most patriotic humans are also some of the most oppressed. Stockholm syndrome much?. Do you even PC brah? Go shave your arse hair you filthy scrub lol. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 4977	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:10:00 - [6] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: bigolenuts wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Packed lunches from home in the USA will require a doctors note otherwise a child has to eat school food..........which is usually nasty fatty rubbish with nothing that actually revitalises anyone. How do people feel about this?. It might just be one state but being forced to eat sht or having to have a medical reason to eat healthy food is one of the most backwards things I have ever heard. I'm not American but this infuriates me and I feel sorry for parents who have been hit with this idiocy. I can't believe that the most patriotic humans are also some of the most oppressed. Stockholm syndrome much?. Do you even PC brah? Go shave your arse hair you filthy scrub lol. This should of been your OP - would of fit in the war room more. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:21:00 - [7] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: bigolenuts wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Packed lunches from home in the USA will require a doctors note otherwise a child has to eat school food..........which is usually nasty fatty rubbish with nothing that actually revitalises anyone. How do people feel about this?. It might just be one state but being forced to eat sht or having to have a medical reason to eat healthy food is one of the most backwards things I have ever heard. I'm not American but this infuriates me and I feel sorry for parents who have been hit with this idiocy. I can't believe that the most patriotic humans are also some of the most oppressed. Stockholm syndrome much?. Do you even PC brah? Go shave your arse hair you filthy scrub lol. This should of been your OP - would of fit in the war room more. Will amend now. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:24:00 - [8] - Quote XEROO COOL wrote: If this isn't the cause of war... this doesn't belong here. You don't belong here lol. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1039	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:28:00 - [9] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: XEROO COOL wrote: If this isn't the cause of war... this doesn't belong here. You don't belong here lol. I cause war... ask Sota and Kain. LOL Xeroo.Cool on Skype. Kyle720 on PSN
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1080	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:28:00 - [10] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: bigolenuts wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Packed lunches from home in the USA will require a doctors note otherwise a child has to eat school food..........which is usually nasty fatty rubbish with nothing that actually revitalises anyone. How do people feel about this?. It might just be one state but being forced to eat sht or having to have a medical reason to eat healthy food is one of the most backwards things I have ever heard. I'm not American but this infuriates me and I feel sorry for parents who have been hit with this idiocy. I can't believe that the most patriotic humans are also some of the most oppressed. Stockholm syndrome much?. Do you even PC brah? Go shave your arse hair you filthy scrub lol. It needs shaving? Thanks in advance.... "CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"

RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:30:00 - [11] - Quote XEROO COOL wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: XEROO COOL wrote: If this isn't the cause of war... this doesn't belong here. You don't belong here lol. I cause war... ask Sota and Kain. LOL Fine be that way lol. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
Pushing Charlie 49	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:45:00 - [12] - Quote I guess if you're American, and you're not eating **, you may have a medical condition. #EuropeanMasterRace Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution**
XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1041	Posted - 2014.05.14 18:48:00 - [13] - Quote Pushing Charlie wrote: I guess if you're American, and you're not eating ****, you may have a medical condition. #EuropeanMasterRace The plebs would not be pleased with this comment! Xeroo.Cool on Skype. Kyle720 on PSN
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood 248	Posted - 2014.05.14 19:27:00 - [14] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Also any food that I have bought that's imported from the USA has to have the ingredients labeled on a sticker. A chocolate bar will read standard ingredients. The sticker with the real ingredients placed on top will list all the genetically modified ingredients by law. There must be people who aren't even aware as companies obviously don't have to list everything. Its their right.......right?. Reese's pieces are rammed with gm crap. Below is a link to the US code of federal regulations with regard to food labeling. Different countries have different requirements with regard to nomenclature, recommended serving sizes, standards of identity, etc, which is the reason for the sticker. The EU does have a standard for labeling of GMO components and does allow GMO ingredients, particularly glyphosate resistant crop varietals. Regarding Reese's pieces, the hydrogenated vegetable oil, corn syrup, likely the dextrose, soy lecithin and modified cornstarch are from GMO's. The vast majority of corn and soybeans are GMOs, so anything with ingredients derived from these plants will have GMO ingredients. Food companies are required by law to list all ingredients in any food product, although the US lacks a GMO labeling policy. I would argue that inadequate labeling is rather far down the list of problems with the food economy, although I do advocate for full and accurate labeling, including GMOs. Regarding the state of the EU food system, I applaud the tighter ingredient, GRAS and labeling standards, but it doesn't seem to have done much for the health of the continent. Europe has similar levels of obesity and associated co-morbidities as much of the rest of the developed world. Cheers, Aramis http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title21/21cfr101_main_02.tpl
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 19:48:00 - [15] - Quote Aramis Madrigal wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Also any food that I have bought that's imported from the USA has to have the ingredients labeled on a sticker. A chocolate bar will read standard ingredients. The sticker with the real ingredients placed on top will list all the genetically modified ingredients by law. There must be people who aren't even aware as companies obviously don't have to list everything. Its their right.......right?. Reese's pieces are rammed with gm crap. Below is a link to the US code of federal regulations with regard to food labeling. Different countries have different requirements with regard to nomenclature, recommended serving sizes, standards of identity, etc, which is the reason for the sticker. The EU does have a standard for labeling of GMO components and does allow GMO ingredients, particularly glyphosate resistant crop varietals. Regarding Reese's pieces, the hydrogenated vegetable oil, corn syrup, likely the dextrose, soy lecithin and modified cornstarch are from GMO's. The vast majority of corn and soybeans are GMOs, so anything with ingredients derived from these plants will have GMO ingredients. Food companies are required by law to list all ingredients in any food product, although the US lacks a GMO labeling policy. I would argue that inadequate labeling is rather far down the list of problems with the food economy, although I do advocate for full and accurate labeling, including GMOs. Regarding the state of the EU food system, I applaud the tighter ingredient, GRAS and labeling standards, but it doesn't seem to have done much for the health of the continent. Europe has similar levels of obesity and associated co-morbidities as much of the rest of the developed world. Cheers, Aramis http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title21/21cfr101_main_02.tpl Thank you. The school lunch thing though. Is that a countrywide thing or a state thing?. I don't think obesity can be sorted. Other than actual medical conditions, people choose to be a fat fk. Much like anyone who states they are pretty dumb despite how easily available information is AND not having to search and read books which could take hours finding the right books. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1085	Posted - 2014.05.14 19:54:00 - [16] - Quote Maybe I missed a link where they are stating those facts OP. Could you link me to where you read this? I've not heard anything about in the school system here where I live. But I will check into it. "CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:00:00 - [17] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Maybe I missed a link where they are stating those facts OP. Could you link me to where you read this? I've not heard anything about in the school system here where I live. But I will check into it. It randomly popped up on wastebook and my gf told me. I'll have a look. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:02:00 - [18] - Quote I typed into Google 'needs doctors note for packed lunch'. My gf is not about at the mo but there's a load of articles about it. Confirmed in 1 school, Richmond, Virginia. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:06:00 - [19] - Quote Dear Parents, I have received word from Federal Programs Preschool pertaining to lunches from home. Parents are to be informed that students can only bring lunches from home if there is a medical condition requiring a specific diet, along with a physicians note to that regard. I am sorry for any inconvenience. If you have any questions concerning this matter, please contact Stephanie [redacted] the Health Coordinator for Federal Programs Preschool at [redacted]. Thanks, Ms. [redacted] Really??????????? As a family, we have made the decision to avoid a host of ingredients that are all found in abundance in school lunches. We donGÇÖt consume: GMOs Pesticides Artificial colors and flavors Preservatives Hormone laden meat and dairy But this week at my daughterGÇÖs school, the offerings are: Corn dog or chicken nuggets, tater tots Beef tostada boat or PB and J on white bread Pepperoni pizza or fish sticks with roll Pretzel sticks with cheese sauce or chicken teriyaki Cheeseburger or breaded chicken patty with seasoned fries There is not one thing on that list that falls into our normal diet. Add a side of rBGH-filled milk and a corn-syrup laden GÇ£fruit cupGÇ¥ and you have a complete nutritional disaster. Why should the parents be required to bear the expense of a doctorGÇÖs visit to get the required note to be allowed to send healthful, homemade lunches for their children? IGÇÖm glad you asked. ItGÇÖs all about profit and control. - See more at: http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/brown-bag-ban-fed-programs-preschool-says-no-lunch-from-home-without-a-doctors-note-10222013#sthash.wJYQfgqt.dpuf Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:07:00 - [20] - Quote Not my own words. Copied and pasted from a site. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.

21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 910	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:15:00 - [21] - Quote lol op where you get your facts from. Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous Ahhh yes the war room! My favorite braffle. I once owned half of a district.
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:16:00 - [22] - Quote That's not everything either. I feel so sorry for the parents who are forced to have their child eat sht, that is not on. I can't believe this and I don't think it will stand for long. Forcing people to kill their kids off and ruin their chance at success.......wtf is this world coming to?. The takeaway I order from is healthier than anything on that list as well!. I am infuriated seriously, we are all human and this is horrible. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:18:00 - [23] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: lol op where you get your facts from. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=warning&l=http%3a%2f%2fwww.theorganicprepper.ca%2fbrown-bag-ban-fed-programs-preschool-says-no-lunch-from-home-without-a-doctors-note-10222013%23sthash.wJYQfgqt.dpuf&domain=theorganicprepper.ca Enjoy.........or rather don't lol. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
21yrOld Knight Pradox One Proficiency V. 911	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:25:00 - [24] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: lol op where you get your facts from. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=warning&l=http%3a%2f%2fwww.theorganicprepper.ca%2fbrown-bag-ban-fed-programs-preschool-says-no-lunch-from-home-without-a-doctors-note-10222013%23sthash.wJYQfgqt.dpuf&domain=theorganicprepper.ca Enjoy.........or rather don't lol. Wow. lol that's not a source. here some accurate info on the topic Washington post New York Times You do not need a doctor note to bring lunch to a school. lol I sense troll lol Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous Ahhh yes the war room! My favorite braffle. I once owned half of a district.
Aramis Madrigal SVER True Blood 250	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:26:00 - [25] - Quote I've read about a few cases such as this. Part of the reasoning is the rather well meaning but short sighted desire to remove the stigma of supplementary nutrition programs that provide free lunch to students meeting certain economic requirements. Regarding the content of school lunches, there are problems to address both on the side of the consumer (i.e. the student) as well as the provider (the school). Many young people are acclimated to calorically dense foods that are highly palatable and will reject healthier options that don't taste as good. Moreover, sourcing and preparing healthier options is expensive and more complicated from a logistics and labor standpoint. The school has an interest in maintaining some level of profitability in their lunch program so that free lunches can be subsidized and students will readily purchase food from vending machines if what is provided is not to their liking. These vending machines are present due to contracts with a number of food companies (contract and usage info is actually readily available by a freedom of information request as well as through the US accounting office). I could yammer on about this for pages and I'm up to answer any food related questions anyone may have. Cheers, Aramis MS Food Science, MBS Neuroscience (the chemical senses), (soon to be) PhD Cognitive Science (food choice and the genesis of food preference) My research deals with modifying the early childhood environment to influence food preference, food choice and resultant health outcomes. I also have ~10 years of experience working in food industry R&D previous to my current educational posting.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1086	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:32:00 - [26] - Quote Interesting read. I am calling the board fo education here and seeing if there is a plan to move forward with this garbage. "CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:34:00 - [27] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Interesting read. I am calling the board fo education here and seeing if there is a plan to move forward with this garbage. Yes. As I said I'm not American but this seems to be a humanitarian issue. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 20:36:00 - [28] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: lol op where you get your facts from. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=warning&l=http%3a%2f%2fwww.theorganicprepper.ca%2fbrown-bag-ban-fed-programs-preschool-says-no-lunch-from-home-without-a-doctors-note-10222013%23sthash.wJYQfgqt.dpuf&domain=theorganicprepper.ca Enjoy.........or rather don't lol. Wow. lol that's not a source. here some accurate info on the topic Washington post New York Times You do not need a doctor note to bring lunch to a school. lol I sense troll lol Yes, that would be you lol. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 57	Posted - 2014.05.14 21:26:00 - [29] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Interesting read. I am calling the board fo education here and seeing if there is a plan to move forward with this garbage. Has anything been said?. Dust.......the most immersive and meaningful mmofps ehever.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 697	Posted - 2014.05.14 21:40:00 - [30] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Ignore title seriously lol. Packed lunches from home in the USA will require a doctors note otherwise a child has to eat school food..........which is usually nasty fatty rubbish with nothing that actually revitalises anyone. How do people feel about this?. It might just be one state but being forced to eat sht or having to have a medical reason to eat healthy food is one of the most backwards things I have ever heard. I'm not American but this infuriates me and I feel sorry for parents who have been hit with this idiocy. I can't believe that the most patriotic humans are also some of the most oppressed. Stockholm syndrome much?. Government always seek to control us. I think your example is an exaggeration of the actual facts but does represent the viewpoint of most governments. Most countries in Europe don't allow homeschooling and almost all of them interfere with parental rights in some form or manner. What is the rationale for any to prohibit *********, but allow alcohol? NYC feels it can tell people how much soda they can buy or sell or how much salt they can put in their food. It is the role of government to control people and they will attempt to control everything if they are allowed to. Donuts also like to control us, for our own good, of course. Just say no to donuts, and tacos. Because, that's why.



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