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Leeroy Gannarsein
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.14 08:15:00 -
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CCP Z wrote:This will remain the case in Legion, for different reasons:
You will have different contracts offered to you depending on your Dropsuit Meta Level. Basically, if you have 3 fittings with a 120, 200 and 350 Metalevel, you will have access to 3 different brackets where people will have the same Metalevel range as you. So, no Dropsuit will be obsolete. You will have access to non-match made battles, so basically you can pick any Dropsuit you want.
I don't think that quite addresses the concern the player posted, unless I'm misreading your comment.
The value of Militia suits (and to a greater extent, BPOs) is twofold; one, they allow me to grind ISK for more expensive suits, which is, and I appreciate this, something you're trying to do away with.
But the second is the fact that no matter how hard I try I'm not going to go ISK negative in my sub-10k suit. That opens up quite a few tactical ploys that aren't effective in more expensive suits, like the infamous Jihad Jeep (I mean, who jeeps in proto?) or other actively suicidal ploys, often involving heavy suits and HMGs or light frames, shotguns and REs.
I'm worried that matchmaking based on suit meta level will take away some of the tactical diversity DUST offers.
As a personal anecdote to illustrate what I mean, I'm currently skilling up Caldari Scout. I should have enough SP for level 3 when I get home, but in the meantime I've been using the STD suit. The suit is 6500ISK, and it makes a profit in every single match, and it's effective; I've kept a KDR of about 2 throughout most of my matches, discarding outliers, which is a small amount less than my normal KDR of 2.5-3.
But the price of the suit allows me to have terrible, terrible games in the pursuit of entertainment; one match I had yesterday I went 18/17. Much of the other team in that match (like, more than half) was in prototype scout suits that much, and I'd estimate about half my kills were ADV/PRO suits. It's a very satisfying feeling when I come to the killboard at the end of the game and know that I destroyed more than five times the amount of ISK I lost, even with respect to my enormous deaths total.
MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
VOTE 1 CCP BLOWOUT
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.14 11:04:00 -
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TrueXer0z wrote:KDR in the game means next to nothing, but WP and ISK efficiency means a lot. When you can field 100k isk on the field and destroy 2 million worth of isk..it should mean something. Same with WPs. If you average 1500+ WP per match is should mean something compared to someone averaging 900-1000 WPs. The only real thing I see KDR showing is the likelyhood of a person draining clone count. But if that person is enabling the team to win by removing high value targets from the field...where is the break away?
While to a certain (okay, significant) extent this is true, when I'm playing solo, as I have been doing for a while now, I play ambush solely.
And in ambush, KDR = everything.
MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.15 09:03:00 -
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Okay, I have one question for CCP.
I am not generally opposed to the proposed progression system. I have no issues with being forced to skill up multiple suits to use a particular combination of gear - at the moment of writing I've two proto large turrets for a fully specced HAV, five or six proto weapons of varying sizes, a proto Assault, a proto Logi, a level 4 Sentinel (would be five only I've got heaps of AUR suits from the faction packs and from the Mauler event) and I'm currently skilling up a scout frame. I'm very diversified, and I don't see it as a problem. It's inevitable with the design of the skill tree even in DUST - eventually you run out of things to skill, so you start a new build.
But I do have one question, still, and it may even be a problem.
How are modules going to be accessed?
If I want to tank an Assault suit, do I need to spec Sentinels first?
If I want to fit repairers to my Sentinel, do I need to skill Logistics?
Obviously I've no idea what modules would go where, but the general idea is there.
It would be very bad for the NPE if to make basic customisation of your dropsuit you were required to skill multiple frame sizes.
I have 41M SP. Most people don't.
If you can wrangle it so that modules (or at least general modules like armour, shields and damage) are not tied to a frame... Well. Then I, for one, welcome our new CCP Overlords.
AND ALSO I AGREE WITH CELUS
MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.15 09:05:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Holy freakin' crap, that's a lot of text. Not to mention most of it is wrong. Please shorten your post and I'll consider debating it.
Ulysses Knapse wrote:Be careful. If you start defending CCP Z, we may start disliking you, too. 
You are a good debater.
(Was that too flame-y? I'll delete it if it was...  )
MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.15 09:11:00 -
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Celus Ivara wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Celus Ivara wrote:
Insert long post here.
Loved this. I agree completely. Aaaand I put it at the tail end of a page; no one will see it now. 
I saved it :)
MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.15 09:48:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Current system is bad, we get it. That's why I suggested redoing it but better.
What would you recommend?
MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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