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CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:39:00 -
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The Ancient Exiles vs. Escrow Removal and Acquisitions war is upon us folks
But why should it matter to the average Proto dust player you ask?
BECAUSE ITS WAR, AND WAR MEANS MONEY
So, as many of you know AE and ERA have billions of iISK saved up for the future (future of what?)
And because of the amount of districts needed to fight (about 50 or more PCs a day)
Manpower is needed
So, simply find the nearest chatroom with AE or ERA in it and offer your services
If you have a squad of 5 proto/adv buddies, simply ask for 3-5 million ISK per merc per PC to be paid before the battle
Solo players should ask for about 2-3 million ISK per battle
If you don't get paid upfront then leave the battle empty
If you just want quick cash, just leave the battle right before it starts and leave your handler in dissaray
DISTRICT OR CORP ISK PAYMENTS SHOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTED
IF either side offers your corp districts, or big sums of ISK for your help DO NOT LISTEN
The winner will just come and take any districts back youve been given and you'll never get paid.
WHAT THE TWO SIDES HAVE TO SAY
AE says "Fight for us, we are the good guys, we wanna leave dust alone after the war and give out our districts to the public."
ERA says, "Fight for us, AE is the menace who made the big blue donut and wanted PFC. 100% conquest is no longer the goal, we want people to gain AEs districts after the war. AE doesn't deserve to be elite."
THE FACTS:
Escrow a few days ago sent out mails that 100% PC conquest is still a thing, and lying and decieving thr public is how they came to be of power, so no one should ever trust any Escrow
AE has been sitting down farming districts with Nyain San for nearly half a year or so no. Not saying they want %100 but with them still in power its still hundreds upon hundreds of districts that the public will never be able to play on.
Dust is unbalanced because the average corp wallets in DUST for 50 man corps are about 300-900 million ISK
The wallets of ERA/AE are about 20-85 billion ISK
Thus they are able to pay players great amounts of ISK and thus swallow up all the talent in dust
War wastes corp money, and A LOT of it, about 1-8 billion a day after the first few days
To stop the cash flow of these corps, prolonging the war should be your highest priority, as the longer the war goes, the more money EVERYONE in these corps lose
You stop the paychecks, and you start losing, and all the "talent" in these corps begin to leave to go elsewhere and it spreads out making no one faction overpowering thus opening PC back upto all
WHO TO FIGHT FOR
AE has had many of their players leave DUST, and are fighting an entire alliance with a "secret friend" helping, so they are currently out manned, and are defending
The longer they defend, the More money it takes for ESCROW to attack
Then, if AE successfully defends, them attacking ESCROW will immediately cause an ISK sink of billions to launch an offensive
So, I believe the best course of action is to help AE first
Then, a few days into the war, begin choosing sides based on who is winning and who is losing.
ALWAYS HELP THE LOSING SIDE
Go find a way to fight out there mercs, the longer the war the better dust will be!
And GO GET YOUR ISKS WORTH!
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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Pushing Charlie
36
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:55:00 -
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Help whoever pays the most, no matter if they're winning or losing.
Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
631
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:05:00 -
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OP forgot to mention, AE changed most of the timers to when we eat breakfast (don't ask me why). Prepare to set your alarm clocks/skip work or just wait until the weekend if the war is still going on.
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CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
247
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:06:00 -
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Pushing Charlie wrote:Help whoever pays the most, no matter if they're winning or losing. If you only fight for who pays the most
Say escrow pays you 500 million ISK to ring for 3 days
And they win in 3 days
Then you have 500 million ISK
And nothing
Escrow now controls Molden heath and hundreds of billions of ISK
While you sit in your pub matches with 500 million ISK that you'll never ever use on anything
Because you can't "buy" a district with 500 mil, someone will just take it
The whole point of the endgame of DUST is Planetary Conquest and its being controlled at the moment by ISK queens
The only way to get PC back into everyone else's hands is to make it expensive for the queens and princesses so they lose their hold over their jesters
So don't fight for pays the most, fight for the losing side to prolonge the war
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
247
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:10:00 -
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Arirana wrote:OP forgot to mention, AE changed most of the timers to when we eat breakfast (don't ask me why). Prepare to set your alarm clocks/skip work or just wait until the weekend if the war is still going on.
I don't play much anymore so I just found out, seems pretty childish and unoriginal to hide with Nyains timers
But AE has been doing district locking etc. with their districts from day 1 I've heard so why expect anything different now I suppose
But oh well I degress
You guys have timers to defend at other times too
But you would be surprised how many people are on that early in other timezones
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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Joe Macro
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:23:00 -
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CHANCEtheChAn wrote:Pushing Charlie wrote:Help whoever pays the most, no matter if they're winning or losing. If you only fight for who pays the most Say escrow pays you 500 million ISK to ring for 3 days And they win in 3 days Then you have 500 million ISK And nothing Escrow now controls Molden heath and hundreds of billions of ISK While you sit in your pub matches with 500 million ISK that you'll never ever use on anything Because you can't "buy" a district with 500 mil, someone will just take it The whole point of the endgame of DUST is Planetary Conquest and its being controlled at the moment by ISK queens The only way to get PC back into everyone else's hands is to make it expensive for the queens and princesses so they lose their hold over their jesters So don't fight for pays the most, fight for the losing side to prolonge the war
He is right. PC got like it is because everyone went for the money. |
JIMvc2
UNREAL WARRIORS
140
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:27:00 -
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As a MAG Raven Veteran Vet 6. I approve this message
COME AT ME BRO!!!
If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
779
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:31:00 -
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i say we let all the pc players duke it out till theyre broke then move in and mop up.
well it would ahev to be after theyre to poor to run nothing but mlt.
mlt vets are eternal. they shall be the bane to proto scrubs everywhere...
dust 514 shall be eternal.
pve for dust 514
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ISuperstar
DIOS X. II
275
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:35:00 -
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lol Who cares?
Still Not Banned, Never Will Be, I Own CCP And This Forum Is My Personal Toilet.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact The East India Co.
3896
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:39:00 -
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AE or ERA contact me i'll ring for free just for the good fight, after the first couple of billions in my personal wallet 2-5mil ISK payouts don't mean as much to me.
Try EVE for free
Resub to EVE with exciting account
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
632
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:49:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:i say we let all the pc players duke it out till theyre broke then move in and mop up.
well it would ahev to be after theyre to poor to run nothing but mlt. You're making wild assumptions. They might pan out, and its a safe risk, so long as you don't give a sh** about getting in on the action.
But I doubt it will, most of AE is playing other games right now, and ERA has their sights set on MH, and they aren't going to stop unless something stupid happens. I'm counting on the rest of the PC community joining with the losing side (aka us) to hold back DNS from taking everything, because it's the only chance they have of getting back into PC.
TL; DR Only way you're ever gonna get to "mop up the remains" is if enough of the community helps AE put up a fight. That's not going to happen if everyone is thinking like you are.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles.
633
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:54:00 -
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Let's be honest here, even if Kain ever gives you land after the war he will still claim ownership of it, and take it back if need be.
After the war is over, win or lose AE won't be looking to play slum lord with you.
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CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
253
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:14:00 -
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Honestly I think if Kane wins it'll be the end of dust pretty much for a while unless fatal jumps up to take a swing or 0uter.heaven comes back in force from the other games we've moved to
Which it won't because zatara isn't a leader, hes a leader of followers
And us 0uter.Heaven guys are still wondering why the community thinks we are the bad guys
And if AE wins, I think most of them will come back just to say they are on top
And the rest will go back to jerking it to anime po rn
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
780
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:15:00 -
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most likely...though i wonder how pc would turn out if faction warfare army were to ever take control of molden heath.
that thought aside dns does need to be put down.
mlt vets are eternal. they shall be the bane to proto scrubs everywhere...
dust 514 shall be eternal.
pve for dust 514
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
8252
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:17:00 -
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KILL! BURN! MAIME!
Oh wait this DUST.
CCP Rouge (Crowd Control Productions - 'Neo' EVE: Legion) DUST 514
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CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
253
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:22:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:most likely...though i wonder how pc would turn out if faction warfare army were to ever take control of molden heath.
that thought aside dns does need to be put down.
...
If faction warfare army ever controls Molden heath
I'll burn myself to the stake
And lol
Or just go by myself into every last PC and 5 cap them
Not saying anything bad about them
Just saying the last time I faced a team of 14 of them I went 53-4 in a adv cal scout solo and my team won
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
321
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:28:00 -
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Arirana wrote:Let's be honest here, even if Kain ever gives you land after the war he will still claim ownership of it, and take it back if need be.
After the war is over, win or lose AE won't be looking to play slum lord with you.
So if you AE wants/needs ringers, why not post a pub chat here where those interested can easily contact you? Too many worries of AWOXing?
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
856
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:33:00 -
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CHANCEtheChAn wrote:
And us 0uter.Heaven guys are still wondering why the community thinks we are the bad guys
It isn't the community, it is just anyone who has ever been allied with you. Radar is a snake and we all know it :D.
Pick whatever side you want, but know this. AE didn't set their timers to 12:00 to "give them up". With just a little bit more effort than it took to set those timers, they could have sold off the districts if they really wanted to give them up. Kept a few for each timer for the GUDFIGHTS and been on their way after they get removed.
ERA was ready to attack AE after they attacked fight club.
Fanfest changed the game. We know that corps being involved in PC is one of the only ways we can add longevity to this game. We aren't going to box people out. |
Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
321
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:40:00 -
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CHANCEtheChAn wrote: And us 0uter.Heaven guys are still wondering why the community thinks we are the bad guys
One too many cases of Core nade spam I'd guess.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
7442
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:44:00 -
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CHANCEtheChAn wrote:THE FACTS:
Escrow a few days ago sent out mails that 100% PC conquest is still a thing, and lying and decieving thr public is how they came to be of power, so no one should ever trust any Escrow Wait, I would just like a bit of info as to where this came from.
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven
421
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:44:00 -
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I don't understand this obsession with isk, its pretty much monopoly money. |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
7442
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:46:00 -
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CHANCEtheChAn wrote:Just saying the last time I faced a team of 14 of them I went 53-4 in a adv cal scout solo and my team won In Caldari FW right? XD
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CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
254
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Posted - 2014.05.09 23:59:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:CHANCEtheChAn wrote:
And us 0uter.Heaven guys are still wondering why the community thinks we are the bad guys
It isn't the community, it is just anyone who has ever been allied with you. Radar is a snake and we all know it :D. Pick whatever side you want, but know this. AE didn't set their timers to 12:00 to "give them up". With just a little bit more effort than it took to set those timers, they could have sold off the districts if they really wanted to give them up. Kept a few for each timer for the GUDFIGHTS and been on their way after they get removed. ERA was ready to attack AE after they attacked fight club. Fanfest changed the game. We know that corps being involved in PC is one of the only ways we can add longevity to this game. We aren't going to box people out.
AE attacked PFC. And Escrow took control over it.
Escrow could have just as easily given up districts as easy as AE
And yet instead continued to take more and more and STILL continues to want to take more
If you want to make AE look bad
Make sure it doesn't make yourself look worse first
AE put their timers at 12:00 because they are scared and probably will get Nyain San to help defend them
As its probably the only allies they've got
But tomorrow will show everyone's true resolve
AE has been known to no life the weeks away when its time to hunker down
While Escrows no life percentage has yet to be determined
This war won't be a normal war
12:00 timer battles have officially made this into the " No life war" "war of no lifers" (NLW or WNL, can't decide which is cooler)
Whatever corp has the least men with responsibilities will win this war
7am your dealing with kids, work, wife/husband, morning, the day itself
The people most putting these responsibilities on hold, or not having any at all win win this one boys o7
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
254
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Posted - 2014.05.10 00:06:00 -
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Lv2spd2 wrote:CHANCEtheChAn wrote: And us 0uter.Heaven guys are still wondering why the community thinks we are the bad guys
One too many cases of Core nade spam I'd guess. I was core nade spamming since chromosome back when it was cool and no one had them
Then a few people who ran with me in D3lta forc3 came to 0uter.heaven and learned how to throw nades like I did and we just got good with them
Its not like we were sitting in nanohives on the bridge one shot charging people with scramblers and then chunking 6 cores in a row like Nyain San
Or carrying 47 1/2 nanohives in our OP slayer logi fits just so we could rep and throw at the same time like AE
We were just good with them
If one or more of our guys were just sitting in hives to spam core nades I apologize
But the main OP core throwers I know in 0.H. Is me, Delta blitzkrieg, and Rexero
And we were all Caldari Assaults so...
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
858
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Posted - 2014.05.10 00:20:00 -
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CHANCEtheChAn wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:CHANCEtheChAn wrote:
And us 0uter.Heaven guys are still wondering why the community thinks we are the bad guys
It isn't the community, it is just anyone who has ever been allied with you. Radar is a snake and we all know it :D. Pick whatever side you want, but know this. AE didn't set their timers to 12:00 to "give them up". With just a little bit more effort than it took to set those timers, they could have sold off the districts if they really wanted to give them up. Kept a few for each timer for the GUDFIGHTS and been on their way after they get removed. ERA was ready to attack AE after they attacked fight club. Fanfest changed the game. We know that corps being involved in PC is one of the only ways we can add longevity to this game. We aren't going to box people out. AE attacked PFC. And Escrow took control over it. Escrow could have just as easily given up districts as easy as AE We committed to an organizational goal that a subset made. We made agreements with the PFC guys, saying that we would get them back on the board when all this stuff went down(~fanfest), and we intend to honor those agreements as soon as we take care of what has proven time and time again to be the biggest threat to PFC. |
Hynox Xitio
0uter.Heaven
979
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Posted - 2014.05.10 00:24:00 -
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Or you could be like me and get paid ISK to write things.
Unleash the Fogwoggler.
( -íº -£-û -íº) /)
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Universal Decimator
Interstellar Legionnaires
34
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Posted - 2014.05.10 00:25:00 -
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Count me IN !!! |
Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
169
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Posted - 2014.05.10 00:29:00 -
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Cool. Might give this a shot.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
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fdfggdfgfd
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.05.10 00:52:00 -
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CHANCEtheChAn wrote:Arirana wrote:OP forgot to mention, AE changed most of the timers to when we eat breakfast (don't ask me why). Prepare to set your alarm clocks/skip work or just wait until the weekend if the war is still going on. I don't play much anymore so I just found out, seems pretty childish and unoriginal to hide with Nyains timers But AE has been doing district locking etc. with their districts from day 1 I've heard so why expect anything different now I suppose But oh well I degress You guys have timers to defend at other times too But you would be surprised how many people are on that early in other timezones
False, you're thinking of WarRavens, Molon Labe, and KEQ. AE's districts were always online till FA locked up their 10 districts like bitches while profiting off of it and attacked safely. In protest of CCP's broken mechnics, AE followed suit. |
CHANCEtheChAn
0uter.Heaven
259
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Posted - 2014.05.10 01:05:00 -
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fdfggdfgfd wrote:CHANCEtheChAn wrote:Arirana wrote:OP forgot to mention, AE changed most of the timers to when we eat breakfast (don't ask me why). Prepare to set your alarm clocks/skip work or just wait until the weekend if the war is still going on. I don't play much anymore so I just found out, seems pretty childish and unoriginal to hide with Nyains timers But AE has been doing district locking etc. with their districts from day 1 I've heard so why expect anything different now I suppose But oh well I degress You guys have timers to defend at other times too But you would be surprised how many people are on that early in other timezones False, you're thinking of WarRavens, Molon Labe, and KEQ. AE's districts were always online till FA locked up their 10 districts like bitches while profiting off of it and attacked safely. In protest of CCP's broken mechnics, AE followed suit.
An alt protecting AE saying "we did it because they did it"
I sware out out of the maybe 50 or so comments I've received today from DNS or AE
Not a response has been short of childish
Hmmm. The Meta is strong with this one...
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