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        |  Ribbons Allmark
 CELESTIAL BEING keepers of peace
 
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      | Posted - 2014.05.09 16:55:00 -
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 I guess since the players never voted for our own CPM and the current CPM was voted on by CCP they can sound like they work for CCP. 1 in 3 dust players is pissed about project legion. However not one of the CPM is pissed about it. Just thought I would point that out. Cause just using the laws of statistics one of them would be pissed. However none of them are which is very odd which leads me to believe that they are in fact employees for CCP
 
 
 
 
 Quick question does CCP give you kick backs?
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 14816
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 16:57:00 -
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 So... where does Cazderon fit in this picture?
 
 Also Jenza doesn't have a PC.
 
 CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked | 
      
      
        |  Ribbons Allmark
 CELESTIAL BEING keepers of peace
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:03:00 -
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 honestly IWS you used to be respected now you a SELLOUT who aint even getting paid lmao
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        |  Ulysses Knapse
 Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
 
 1367
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:06:00 -
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 Ribbons Allmark wrote:I guess since the players never voted for our own CPM and the current CPM was voted on by CCP they can sound like they work for CCP. 1 in 3 dust players is pissed about project legion. However not one of the CPM is pissed about it. Just thought I would point that out. Cause just using the laws of statistics one of them would be pissed. However none of them are which is very odd which leads me to believe that they are in fact employees for CCP 
 Quick question does CCP give you kick backs?
 Perhaps it might have something to do with how CCP presented EVE: Legion.
 
 CPM heard about EVE: Legion from CCP before the massive PR fail and thus their opinions are unaffected by it.
 
 Also, there are no "laws of statistics". They just don't exist.
 
 
 Ribbons Allmark wrote:honestly IWS you used to be respected now you a SELLOUT who aint even getting paid lmao  Oh, shut up already. You don't know what you're talking about.
 
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        |  THE 2000 SWINE
 Commando Perkone
 Caldari State
 
 44
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:06:00 -
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 Ribbons Allmark wrote:I guess since the players never voted for our own CPM and the current CPM was voted on by CCP they can sound like they work for CCP. 1 in 3 dust players is pissed about project legion. However not one of the CPM is pissed about it. Just thought I would point that out. Cause just using the laws of statistics one of them would be pissed. However none of them are which is very odd which leads me to believe that they are in fact employees for CCP 
 
 
 
 Quick question does CCP give you kick backs?
 
 No kick backs, because snakes (CCP) have no legs.
 
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        |  THE 2000 SWINE
 Commando Perkone
 Caldari State
 
 44
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:09:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:So... where does Cazderon fit in this picture?
 Also Jenza doesn't have a PC.
 
 Stop trying to be a hammer, and settle for being a TOOL.
 
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        |  Samael Artico
 Company of Marcher Lords
 Amarr Empire
 
 104
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:11:00 -
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 THE 2000 SWINE wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:So... where does Cazderon fit in this picture?
 Also Jenza doesn't have a PC.
 Stop trying to be a hammer, and settle for being a TOOL. Isn't that what the CPM is accused of being? Tools? So why are you encouraging it?
 
 Fail troll is fail.
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 14818
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:16:00 -
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 Hammer is a tool... This one is confused at what troll one is saying.
 
 
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        |  Joseph Ridgeson
 WarRavens
 Final Resolution.
 
 1771
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:17:00 -
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 I would agree that a third of DUST players are pissed about Legion but not all for the same reason. I am mad because of how it was released and the ambiguity of "applicable." It is an anger out of a lack of respect given to me as a customer and fear for what it means for a game that I enjoy.
 
 Remember they heard about it months before us and CCP should have released it to all of us. This gives them several months to cool down off the initial shock to the system. They also didn't hear it announced in the matter of "Here is Legion" and "bye!" as Rouge runs off the stage which means less of a reason to be angry.
 
 No, don't say "CPM should have told us." That is asking a person to fall on a real life sword in breaking the NDA. That's not a "We have banned Jenza's account", that is a "see you in court" thing. I have plenty of friends and family that work in industries that if it was discovered they would break an NDA that it could potentially screw their career. What would a law firm think of an employee that would disregard an NDA? I know I wouldn't want to have a lawyer, social worker, anyone that I trust my private information with to be someone that would break an NDA. As annoyed as I am about what happened, I could not bring myself to want them to break that NDA.
 
 "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!" | 
      
      
        |  CRNWLLC
 Screwy Rabbit ULC
 
 270
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:17:00 -
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 It's been this way from the beginning. The Council for Player Manipulation has always been a tool belt.
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        |  Ryder Azorria
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 944
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:20:00 -
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 ITT: Console kiddies who aren't tech savvy enough to realize why Dust on the PS3 will never 'work' come up with stupid theories to cover for their own ignorance / denial.
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        |  Ulysses Knapse
 Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
 
 1367
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:23:00 -
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 CRNWLLC wrote:It's been this way from the beginning. The Council for Player Manipulation has always been a tool belt. "Council of Player Manipulation", eh?
 
 That's an awfully ironic name, as I've never once seen a CPM member used to manipulate the community.
 
 I am become Legion, the destroyer of bunnies. | 
      
      
        |  Buster Friently
 Rosen Association
 
 2271
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:26:00 -
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 Ribbons Allmark wrote:I guess since the players never voted for our own CPM and the current CPM was voted on by CCP they can sound like they work for CCP. 1 in 3 dust players is pissed about project legion. However not one of the CPM is pissed about it. Just thought I would point that out. Cause just using the laws of statistics one of them would be pissed. However none of them are which is very odd which leads me to believe that they are in fact employees for CCP 
 
 
 
 Quick question does CCP give you kick backs?
 
 Since the day they were appointed by CCP instead of elected.
 
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        |  Rudio Resonance
 Tal-Romon Legion
 Amarr Empire
 
 3
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:27:00 -
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 Ulysses Knapse wrote:
 Also, there are no "laws of statistics". They just don't exist.
 
 
 meant laws of probability
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        |  Ulysses Knapse
 Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
 
 1367
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:30:00 -
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 Rudio Resonance wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:
 Also, there are no "laws of statistics". They just don't exist.
 
 
 meant laws of probability  Most likely. Still, probability doesn't mean much, especially not in a small group.
 
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        |  The Noob Destroyer
 
 846
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:32:00 -
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 CPM stands for
 CCP's
 Pet
 Monkeys
 
 Who am I? I am just a nobody. | 
      
      
        |  Michael Arck
 Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
 Lokun Listamenn
 
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      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:32:00 -
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 Just stop it man. Really, try to have some maturity about this instead of sending little jabs like a 5th grader. The lot of you are quite immature in dealing with this situation.
 
 The fact is, many mature minded adults have thought about it and see that the Dust we all want is more possible on PC, than it is on a dying last generation console. We don't like how it was introduced. But that isn't reason enough to continue this childish tirade.
 
 
 
 Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH? | 
      
      
        |  Chunky Munkey
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 4536
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:33:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:So... where does Cazderon fit in this picture?
 Also Jenza doesn't have a PC.
 
 IWS you posted what is possibly the most despised & biased thread this forum has ever seen, and on this very issue.
 
 Your opinion is entirely irrelevant here.
 
 RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB | 
      
      
        |  Cody Sietz
 Bullet Cluster
 Lokun Listamenn
 
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      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:35:00 -
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 Maybe there is a reason they aren't pissed.
 
 Could be that the **** has passed since they knew about this and have had time to accept it(since there was nothing they could do except voice their concern about everything)
 
 Or maybe they know something else and can't tell us(yet)
 
 "I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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        |  THE 2000 SWINE
 Commando Perkone
 Caldari State
 
 44
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:38:00 -
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 Samael Artico wrote:THE 2000 SWINE wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:So... where does Cazderon fit in this picture?
 Also Jenza doesn't have a PC.
 Stop trying to be a hammer, and settle for being a TOOL. Isn't that what the CPM is accused of being? Tools? So why are you encouraging it? Fail troll is fail. 
 What are you a toilet plunger? Helping the **** to flow?
 
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        |  THE 2000 SWINE
 Commando Perkone
 Caldari State
 
 47
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:41:00 -
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 Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hammer is a tool... This one is confused at what troll one is saying. 
 
 You are indeed confused.
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        |  Delta 749
 Kestrel Reconnaissance
 
 2966
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:46:00 -
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 Since when were they lap dogs?
 
 Ever since they were appointed for IRC brown nosing and not elected by the player base
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        |  Michael Arck
 Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
 Lokun Listamenn
 
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      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:46:00 -
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 Cody Sietz wrote:Maybe there is a reason they aren't pissed.
 Could be that the **** has passed since they knew about this and have had time to accept it(since there was nothing they could do except voice their concern about everything)
 
 Or maybe they know something else and can't tell us(yet)
 
 I'm willing to bet they could have been upset too.
 
 But they represent the community and they are in a "official" position. They have to have some tact and diplomacy when dealing with the situation. They can't just outright spazz out-that's not good for the community or for getting their opinions heard.
 
 Loud talking, name calling and such is not what they should be doing. Handle it with some professionalism. I respect that than the CPM's joining some mercs and creating a hostile environment on the forums.
 
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        |  Ulysses Knapse
 Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
 
 1367
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 17:49:00 -
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 Assuming that, like the OP has claimed, 1/3 of the Dust 514 community is against the idea of EVE: Legion, there's a roughly 12.5% chance that a randomly picked group of five people from the community would unanimously support EVE: Legion.
 
 It's not a very large number, but it's significant enough to be plausible.
 
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        |  Chunky Munkey
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 4537
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 19:27:00 -
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 Ulysses Knapse wrote:Assuming that, like the OP has claimed, 1/3 of the Dust 514 community is against the idea of EVE: Legion, there's a roughly 12.5% chance that a randomly picked group of five people from the community would unanimously support EVE: Legion.
 It's not a very large number, but it's significant enough to be plausible.
 
 I think it's more likely that spending more time alonside the devs than the community they're intended to represent can give them a skewed perspective on proceedings.
 
 RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB | 
      
      
        |  PR0FESSOR CHAOS
 Brutor Vanguard
 Minmatar Republic
 
 98
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 20:19:00 -
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 When irc and Twitter were the best ways to communicate with the devs. Basicly day one, review the twitter msgs #dust514 from oct 2011 to march 2012. Tada cpm0
 
 
Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you. | 
      
      
        |  KING SALASI
 MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
 
 300
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 21:38:00 -
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 Joseph Ridgeson wrote:I would agree that a third of DUST players are pissed about Legion but not all for the same reason. I am mad because of how it was released and the ambiguity of "applicable." It is an anger out of a lack of respect given to me as a customer and fear for what it means for a game that I enjoy.
 Remember they heard about it months before us and CCP should have released it to all of us. This gives them several months to cool down off the initial shock to the system. They also didn't hear it announced in the matter of "Here is Legion" and "bye!" as Rouge runs off the stage which means less of a reason to be angry.
 
 No, don't say "CPM should have told us." That is asking a person to fall on a real life sword in breaking the NDA. That's not a "We have banned Jenza's account", that is a "see you in court" thing. I have plenty of friends and family that work in industries that if it was discovered they would break an NDA that it could potentially screw their career. What would a law firm think of an employee that would disregard an NDA? I know I wouldn't want to have a lawyer, social worker, anyone that I trust my private information with to be someone that would break an NDA. As annoyed as I am about what happened, I could not bring myself to want them to break that NDA.
 
 Lol game leaks happen all the time who was the last person to be sued by Dev/Publisher.
 For game leaks lmao. Please tell me how would CCP know if said info was leaked to IGN as a unnamed source?
 
 Please stop with NDA excuse it's pathetic.
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        |  Iron Wolf Saber
 Den of Swords
 
 14836
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 21:43:00 -
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 Cody Sietz wrote:Maybe there is a reason they aren't pissed.
 Could be that the **** has passed since they knew about this and have had time to accept it(since there was nothing they could do except voice their concern about everything)
 
 Or maybe they know something else and can't tell us(yet)
 
 The prior, we were rather livid at the time; we did have a few weeks to calm down and many many rounds of 'brotalk'.
 
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        |  Phoenix 85
 Kirkinen Risk Control
 Caldari State
 
 73
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 21:50:00 -
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 Ribbons Allmark wrote:I guess since the players never voted for our own CPM and the current CPM was voted on by CCP they can sound like they work for CCP. 1 in 3 dust players is pissed about project legion. However not one of the CPM is pissed about it. Just thought I would point that out. Cause just using the laws of statistics one of them would be pissed. However none of them are which is very odd which leads me to believe that they are in fact employees for CCP 
 
 
 
 Quick question does CCP give you kick backs?
 
 Have you actually been paying attention? Probalby not. I know Kain and a few others were upset about how it was handled. Educate yourself before you QQ on the forums.
 
 http://highdrag.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/hd-33-red-wedding-fanfest-style/
 
 Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like
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        |  Phoenix 85
 Kirkinen Risk Control
 Caldari State
 
 73
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.05.09 21:52:00 -
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 Ryder Azorria wrote:ITT: Console kiddies who aren't tech savvy enough to realize why Dust on the PS3 will never 'work' come up with stupid theories to cover for their own ignorance / denial. 
 this.
 
 Dust 514 cancelled, EvE players be like
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