DUST Search - Correctly Named Weapons

Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Hoover Damn wrote:

CCP Logibro wrote:

Yep, we're changing the names as we're not using the same progression system as DUST. And yes, Assault Rifle -> Plasma Rifle is on the list.

Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw.

I vote that all Minmatar small arms use something like the Metal Storm electrically-fired stacked projectile system, which we'll call Shredders. Shredder Rifle, Compact Shredder (to replace the SMG in form while retaining it's function), and Shredder Pistol, for instance.

The Typhoon from Crysis 3 is one example of this sort of technology being implemented in a game. A promo video for the Typhoon so you can see what I mean.

We don't want these to be so devastatingly OP, however, so I suggest using fewer barrels and focus on dizzyingly high rate of fire with low damage per bullet and a small magazine size.

Interesting take on the weapon I always wondered how could design a front line weapon for it as it is currently servicing such weapons as rifles is practically feasibly impossible. maybe a pistol version but definitely not rifles which requires replacing whole barrels. usually.

Why would that be much different from replacing a magazine, functionally speaking?

Considering that the barrel is the magazine in this instance, after all.

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Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 973	Posted - 2014.05.09 00:28:00 - [31] - Quote But seriously, why is it so hard to change 'Assault Rifle' to 'Plasma Rifle' in DUST? Surely it couldn't take much more than typing in 'Plasma' is some database field and changing a few item names and descriptions here and there. Couldn't this have been done in 1.8? Or 1.7? Or 1.6? Or 1.5?..... DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2965	Posted - 2014.05.09 02:04:00 - [32] - Quote The Combat Rifle should have a play on ye olde joke of classic Minmatar GÇ£Rust and Duct TapeGÇ¥. Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Templar Code Giveway - Propaganda Competition Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 195	Posted - 2014.05.09 02:11:00 - [33] - Quote Ideas for combat rifle: Minmitar Repeater Light Machine Gun Gas Repeater Light Autocannon EVE players? Good at Dust?! Let the indiscriminate slaughter of PC huggers begin >:)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10215	Posted - 2014.05.09 04:04:00 - [34] - Quote RED-EYE -JEDI wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Yep, we're changing the names as we're not using the same progression system as DUST. And yes, Assault Rifle -> Plasma Rifle is on the list. Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. plasma rifle is Games workshop copyright, same with the bolt pistol. its a space marine weapon. Spacemarines don't use weapons called Plasma Rifles, and they certainly are not copy righted. Spacemarines and the entire 40k galaxy use Plasmaguns. Markdown:
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5630	Posted - 2014.05.09 04:51:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: RED-EYE -JEDI wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Yep, we're changing the names as we're not using the same progression system as DUST. And yes, Assault Rifle -> Plasma Rifle is on the list. Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. plasma rifle is Games workshop copyright, same with the bolt pistol. its a space marine weapon. Spacemarines don't use weapons called Plasma Rifles, and they certainly are not copy righted. Spacemarines and the entire 40k galaxy use Plasmaguns. If anything was copyrighted to Games Workshop, you'd think it'd be anything that Blizzard diarrhea'd out in Starcraft. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10219	Posted - 2014.05.09 04:53:00 - [36] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: True Adamance wrote: RED-EYE -JEDI wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Yep, we're changing the names as we're not using the same progression system as DUST. And yes, Assault Rifle -> Plasma Rifle is on the list. Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. plasma rifle is Games workshop copyright, same with the bolt pistol. its a space marine weapon. Spacemarines don't use weapons called Plasma Rifles, and they certainly are not copy righted. Spacemarines and the entire 40k galaxy use Plasmaguns. If anything was copyrighted to Games Workshop, you'd think it'd be anything that Blizzard diarrhea'd out in Starcraft. Prolly...... ever notice Zerg and Nid's look insanely similar........ in fact.......exactly the same...... Markdown:
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2584	Posted - 2014.05.09 04:57:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. Scrap Rifle Duct Tape Rifle Slave Rifle There are lots of possibilities! Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2260	Posted - 2014.05.09 06:07:00 - [38] - Quote True Adamance wrote: RED-EYE -JEDI wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Yep, we're changing the names as we're not using the same progression system as DUST. And yes, Assault Rifle -> Plasma Rifle is on the list. Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. plasma rifle is Games workshop copyright, same with the bolt pistol. its a space marine weapon. Spacemarines don't use weapons called Plasma Rifles, and they certainly are not copy righted. Spacemarines and the entire 40k galaxy use Plasmaguns. As the biggest Amarr RP nerd in dust do you have any thoughts on Scrambler tech becoming Lightning based? It's right there in the scrambler pistol's flavor text. dent308: humans are filthy crazy things that shit in their own homes
Hecarim Van Hohen 1408	Posted - 2014.05.09 06:29:00 - [39] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Yep, we're changing the names as we're not using the same progression system as DUST. And yes, Assault Rifle -> Plasma Rifle is on the list. Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. Errm its obvious isn't it? Autocannon..... While it would be awesome wikipedia (I know, it's bad for you) says that "autocannons often have a larger calibre than a machine gun (e.g., 20 mm or greater)." So I would save that for the vehicles. Semi-Automatic Projectile Rifle (S.A.P.R. for short) [[I know it's stupid but I had to come up with something]] State your stance on EVE:Legion t¢«_t¢«
SickJ D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 133	Posted - 2014.05.09 08:20:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. Light Machine Gun. That way it sets up a theme for the Minmatar guns (SMG, LMG, and HMG, for the S, L, and H sizes.) Or Chemical Rifle, since it uses a chemical propellant instead of magnets. Green = Good \| Red = Bad \| Yellow = Mine

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 9560	Posted - 2014.05.09 09:51:00 - [41] - Quote Chain Rifle? Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 59	Posted - 2014.05.09 10:01:00 - [42] - Quote Just going to drop some ideas: Combat Rifle - Auto Rifle In EVE, the projectile weapons are usually Autocannons, and seeing as these are smaller than those weapons, Auto Rifle Mass Driver - SAC (Small Artillery Cannon) Naming comes from Artillery Cannons in EVE. Heavy Machine Gun - HAC (Handheld Autocannon Same naming idea as the Auto Rifle. Except these are big enough to be considered an Autocannon. Flaylock Pistol - MAC (Micro Artillery Cannon) Same as the SAC. Come Join the War
Hoover Damn H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Lokun Listamenn 113	Posted - 2014.05.09 13:27:00 - [43] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Yep, we're changing the names as we're not using the same progression system as DUST. And yes, Assault Rifle -> Plasma Rifle is on the list. Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. I vote that all Minmatar small arms use something like the Metal Storm electrically-fired stacked projectile system, which we'll call Shredders. Shredder Rifle, Compact Shredder (to replace the SMG in form while retaining it's function), and Shredder Pistol, for instance. The Typhoon from Crysis 3 is one example of this sort of technology being implemented in a game. A promo video for the Typhoon so you can see what I mean. We don't want these to be so devastatingly OP, however, so I suggest using fewer barrels and focus on dizzyingly high rate of fire with low damage per bullet and a small magazine size. "Any job worth doing with a laser is worth doing with many, many lasers." - Unknown
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 452	Posted - 2014.05.09 15:37:00 - [44] - Quote How about the weapons fire much more uniquely than just faster or slower or single shot Names are the easy part. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14809	Posted - 2014.05.09 15:54:00 - [45] - Quote Hoover Damn wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Yep, we're changing the names as we're not using the same progression system as DUST. And yes, Assault Rifle -> Plasma Rifle is on the list. Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. I vote that all Minmatar small arms use something like the Metal Storm electrically-fired stacked projectile system, which we'll call Shredders. Shredder Rifle, Compact Shredder (to replace the SMG in form while retaining it's function), and Shredder Pistol, for instance. The Typhoon from Crysis 3 is one example of this sort of technology being implemented in a game. A promo video for the Typhoon so you can see what I mean. We don't want these to be so devastatingly OP, however, so I suggest using fewer barrels and focus on dizzyingly high rate of fire with low damage per bullet and a small magazine size. Interesting take on the weapon I always wondered how could design a front line weapon for it as it is currently servicing such weapons as rifles is practically feasibly impossible. maybe a pistol version but definitely not rifles which requires replacing whole barrels. usually. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 602	Posted - 2014.05.09 16:00:00 - [46] - Quote As much as I love both Warhammer 40K IP and Starcraft IP, I love the EVE IP too so do what is best CCP. Stil - Autocannon for the minny weapons. ~Then can we get some artillery too please?
Leeroy Gannarsein Shining Flame Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2014.05.09 17:11:00 - [47] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hoover Damn wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Yep, we're changing the names as we're not using the same progression system as DUST. And yes, Assault Rifle -> Plasma Rifle is on the list. Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. I vote that all Minmatar small arms use something like the Metal Storm electrically-fired stacked projectile system, which we'll call Shredders. Shredder Rifle, Compact Shredder (to replace the SMG in form while retaining it's function), and Shredder Pistol, for instance. The Typhoon from Crysis 3 is one example of this sort of technology being implemented in a game. A promo video for the Typhoon so you can see what I mean. We don't want these to be so devastatingly OP, however, so I suggest using fewer barrels and focus on dizzyingly high rate of fire with low damage per bullet and a small magazine size. Interesting take on the weapon I always wondered how could design a front line weapon for it as it is currently servicing such weapons as rifles is practically feasibly impossible. maybe a pistol version but definitely not rifles which requires replacing whole barrels. usually. Why would that be much different from replacing a magazine, functionally speaking? Considering that the barrel is the magazine in this instance, after all. MY ACTUAL NAME IS LORHAK It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... JAMAL SARUM IS MY EMPRESS
Joseph Tasun Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.05.10 06:42:00 - [48] - Quote Sniper Rifle - Rename to Bolt Rifle. Important for later Sniper Rifle racial parity! Also see Assault Rifle/Plasma Rifle. Combat Rifle....Auto Rifle, for Autocannon heritage.
Vaux Karn The Mercenary Collective 80	Posted - 2014.05.10 08:07:00 - [49] - Quote I personally think that the Combat Rifle should be renamed something that just screams Minmatar. Here's a list of ideas: 1. Rust Buster. Why? Because if it isn't rusted and held together by equal parts duct tape and WD-40 then it isn't Minmatar. 2. Scrap Cannon. Because it is most definitely made out of scrap...all of it. 3. I.C.B.I.A.F. Acronym for "I Can't Believe It Actually Fired" because lets face it...if it is Minmatar and it works, everyone is shocked. 4 P.D.B.U.I.M.H. Acronym for "Please Don't Blow Up In My Hands" because you know that is the first thought of everyone who picks one up. Also I would like to note that I am not anti-Minmatar...except for when they steal my ****.
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 190	Posted - 2014.05.10 08:30:00 - [50] - Quote Vaux Karn wrote: I personally think that the Combat Rifle should be renamed something that just screams Minmatar. Here's a list of ideas: 1. Rust Buster. Why? Because if it isn't rusted and held together by equal parts duct tape and WD-40 then it isn't Minmatar. 2. Scrap Cannon. Because it is most definitely made out of scrap...all of it. 3. I.C.B.I.A.F. Acronym for "I Can't Believe It Actually Fired" because lets face it...if it is Minmatar and it works, everyone is shocked. 4 P.D.B.U.I.M.H. Acronym for "Please Don't Blow Up In My Hands" because you know that is the first thought of everyone who picks one up. Also I would like to note that I am not anti-Minmatar...except for when they steal my ****. What would Matari vehicles be called? . .

Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1774	Posted - 2014.05.10 09:25:00 - [51] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Just going to drop some ideas: Combat Rifle - Auto Rifle In EVE, the projectile weapons are usually Autocannons, and seeing as these are smaller than those weapons, Auto Rifle Mass Driver - SAC (Small Artillery Cannon) Naming comes from Artillery Cannons in EVE. Heavy Machine Gun - HAC (Handheld Autocannon Same naming idea as the Auto Rifle. Except these are big enough to be considered an Autocannon. Flaylock Pistol - MAC (Micro Artillery Cannon) Same as the SAC. I think the Mass Driver, Flaylock, and Heavy Machine Gun all work with their names especially the first two. There is no real comparison to those name in term to what the thing is supposed to do like there is with Assault Rifle but then there is the Assault Rail/Combat/Scrambler. Handheld Autocannon for the Heavy Machine Gun though.... man is that awesome. Auto Rifle fits EVE but let's take the person "that don't know nothin' about no EVE." If I were one of those people, I would look at my freshly gotten Auto Rifle and go "why the hell is this a burst first weapon and not automatic like the name says?!" Combat Rifle does need to go just like Assault Rifle should go but I don't believe Auto to be the best bet. Does this mean that the Sniper Rifle is also due for a name change? Like Assault Rifle, Sniper Rifle is a blanket term. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Tweaksz Jaded Clones Jaded Coalition 87	Posted - 2014.05.10 13:31:00 - [52] - Quote How about this: Burst Suppression Rifle - B.S.R. and Automatic Suppresion Rifle - A.S.R. Since the CR is already good at putting down clones. Pill Popping Madness!
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Final Resolution. 1780	Posted - 2014.05.10 16:28:00 - [53] - Quote Ballistic Rifle. Watching the "Graphics of DUST 514" video (again, entirely about Legion grumbles) when showing a picture of the Precision Rifle CCP Android states "when it comes to the ballistic Precision Rifle, which is a Sniper Rifle." So Minmatar assault rifle is Ballistic Rifle and sniper rifle is the Precision Rifle. Caldari Sniper Rifle could be Bolt Rifle so something of the like. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Bragoltur Valaruina Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 3	Posted - 2014.05.10 17:13:00 - [54] - Quote SickJ wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. Light Machine Gun. That way it sets up a theme for the Minmatar guns (SMG, LMG, and HMG, for the S, L, and H sizes.) Or Chemical Rifle, since it uses a chemical propellant instead of magnets. I thought about something like this too. I was thinking something like, Chem Rifle (still CR see?) One of the problems that I see with the Chem/Chemical Rifle is that it sounds like some kind of chemical warfare weapon. Not something that shoots bullets. Chemical Propellant Rifle 'CPR' (haha) Compressed Gas Rifle 'CGR' or 'Cougar' (do Minmatar even use names like that?) I think that the Rail Rifle is just fine, personally, but I think I am in the minority there. I was thinking about the Sniper Rifles though, they could do something like, Caldari Sniper Rifle Amarr Sniper Rifle Minmatar Sniper Rifle Gallente Sniper Rifle Not very exotic names perhaps, but they would work, and they would save a lot of confusion. P.S. If any Devs read this, could you definitively say whether the Combat Rifle is/will be chemical propellant or gas?
Musta Tornius Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1336	Posted - 2014.05.10 18:59:00 - [55] - Quote I quite like the simple 'Battle Rifle' for CR.
SickJ D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 134	Posted - 2014.05.11 01:27:00 - [56] - Quote Bragoltur Valaruina wrote: Compressed Gas Rifle 'CGR' or 'Cougar' (do Minmatar even use names like that?) The Minmatar have frigates called 'Wolf' and 'Jaguar' (named for 'ancient mythical beasts'). A rifle called Cougar isn't far off. Green = Good \| Red = Bad \| Yellow = Mine
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 457	Posted - 2014.05.11 02:21:00 - [57] - Quote SickJ wrote: Bragoltur Valaruina wrote: Compressed Gas Rifle 'CGR' or 'Cougar' (do Minmatar even use names like that?) The Minmatar have frigates called 'Wolf' and 'Jaguar' (named for 'ancient mythical beasts'). A rifle called Cougar isn't far off. Sounds more like a vehicle or suit name than a weapon. But thats just me "Shine bright like a diamond"
Bragoltur Valaruina Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.05.11 13:42:00 - [58] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: SickJ wrote: Bragoltur Valaruina wrote: Compressed Gas Rifle 'CGR' or 'Cougar' (do Minmatar even use names like that?) The Minmatar have frigates called 'Wolf' and 'Jaguar' (named for 'ancient mythical beasts'). A rifle called Cougar isn't far off. Sounds more like a vehicle or suit name than a weapon. But thats just me Yeah, I can see what you mean.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14880	Posted - 2014.05.11 14:35:00 - [59] - Quote Leeroy Gannarsein wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hoover Damn wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Yep, we're changing the names as we're not using the same progression system as DUST. And yes, Assault Rifle -> Plasma Rifle is on the list. Ideas for Combat Rifle are welcome btw. I vote that all Minmatar small arms use something like the Metal Storm electrically-fired stacked projectile system, which we'll call Shredders. Shredder Rifle, Compact Shredder (to replace the SMG in form while retaining it's function), and Shredder Pistol, for instance. The Typhoon from Crysis 3 is one example of this sort of technology being implemented in a game. A promo video for the Typhoon so you can see what I mean. We don't want these to be so devastatingly OP, however, so I suggest using fewer barrels and focus on dizzyingly high rate of fire with low damage per bullet and a small magazine size. Interesting take on the weapon I always wondered how could design a front line weapon for it as it is currently servicing such weapons as rifles is practically feasibly impossible. maybe a pistol version but definitely not rifles which requires replacing whole barrels. usually. Why would that be much different from replacing a magazine, functionally speaking? Considering that the barrel is the magazine in this instance, after all. Barrels are an integral structural part of most guns though and are not that highly interchangeable even on weapons back in the day that had them interchangeable they were not exactly combat swappable as a magazine would be. If they're not soundly you get barrel whipping and other mal-performances from jamming receiver flaking and many others as the vibration sets in; but this is sci fi so its supposively 'solved' problem. Overall the typhoon while it may seem to have a high rate of fire doesn't seem to do lots of damage due to the small caliber used. Also range would be an issue and varying range performance as well. Also too many people want the stack fire weapon for the rate of fire not the other reason which is streamlining. The case of going the other direction is replacing the multi tube rocket launchers on aircraft with a single tube as one tube will handle all of it. Saves weight and possibly costs as the system is more simplified and not much different than before. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2823	Posted - 2014.05.11 15:17:00 - [60] - Quote Rail Rifle - Gauss Rifle Assault Rifle - Plasma Rifle Combat Rifle - Chain Rifle Scrambler Rifle - Pulse Rifle Looks like its back to FPS Military Shooter 56 Monkey Mac - Just another pile of discarded ashes on the battlefield!



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