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Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 99	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:36:00 - [1] - Quote More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more time on the overall play of the game rather than the shiny garbage (that includes trees no one cares about the trees). I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 7237	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:42:00 - [2] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more time on the overall play of the game rather than the shiny garbage (that includes trees no one cares about the trees). What we're shown so far is just the graphics because the gameplay changes are still either design documents on the wiki or ideas being hammered out in someone's head. It's early days yet, and while the Game Designers work on their designs, the tech guys can work on the game engine and graphics which is a bit easier to immediately show off. Remember, what you saw was a prototype. CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites (a¦á_a¦á)

Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 119	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:42:00 - [3] - Quote This is what I was wondering after Incarna when they unloaded that CQ on us. It was bloated and fried motherboards. I'd of rather had crap graphics and the rest of the station than great graphics (which my computer couldn't handle even) and nothing but the CQ. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1375	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:43:00 - [4] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more time on the overall play of the game rather than the shiny garbage (that includes trees no one cares about the trees). How many seconds did you manage to watch the Fanfest videos for before you got bored and jumped to your conclusions? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
LAVALLOIS Nash QcGOLD 138	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:45:00 - [5] - Quote I disagree; Trees and a detailed environment are important for a MMO FPS. Especially for any PvE aspects that they are gong to include. Since its supposed to take place in a galaxy of thousands of planets. As well, keeping this game running while building that other game allows them to do the balance learning curve without doing any damage to the new project. They get data of how players fight eachother with everything and how it all balances out. So once the new game launches, that developer learning curve about OP equipment will be much shorter. So the game will be good to play much earlier on. That means a shorter beta and a better chance of attracting and retaining a sizable player base at launch. Now if you just want to run and shoot on a bunch of similar maps with minimalist attention to detail, you should probably play an Deathmatch type FPS.
Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 99	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:48:00 - [6] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: . How many seconds did you manage to watch the Fanfest videos for before you got bored and jumped to your conclusions? I watched the whole thing. And i been playing this game for about 2 years now. So i didnt jump to anything. Its based on their comments and my own observations. They have more interest in making the game look shiny than they do in making the game a playable fun game. Just look at the amount of glitches they still have in the Dust 514 game. Sure when they wanted to make the game look better they rushed to get out a graphics upgrade. But when it came to bug fixes and balancing the gear in the game they just used the nerf hammer. Be hateful all you like but at least i can see CCP for what they really are. Just another game company after your hard earned cash. Make a game look cool and people will buy it they always do, I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 430	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:48:00 - [7] - Quote Thanks for stepping in Logibro. Good to hear from a Blue. Any idea on when we can expect a dev blog on the future direction of a Dust over the next six to twelve months? You guys are careless, but not heartless; I'm assuming you've got plans for this dear old game of ours one way or the other. Thanks. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1850	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:51:00 - [8] - Quote hardcore gamers care little for graphics. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 102	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:53:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more... What we're shown so far is just the graphics because the gameplay changes are still either design documents on the wiki or ideas... Im not just referring to Legion. Im referring to Dust as well. They are scrapping dust because they cant do the graphics layouts that they want which tells me they care more about the look of the game than the actual game play. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1708	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:53:00 - [10] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more time on the overall play of the game rather than the shiny garbage (that includes trees no one cares about the trees). Don't spew this kind of garbage again. All the Legion demo was was a near exact copy of Dust with some enhancements, which are easier to implement and less resource intensive than coming up with a whole new game design. Also given the limited time they've had to work on it, that's all they can really show for now. I for one say that they should keep focusing on graphics. An immersive game is much better than one that's not immersive. Keep up the work CCP applauds Also, let's not even forget that the art team has nothing to do with gameplay design. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32

Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 102	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:54:00 - [11] - Quote low genius wrote: hardcore gamers care little for graphics. Well said I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 430	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:56:00 - [12] - Quote Non-troll query: does rendering and render distance count as "graphics"? Because seeing tanks deploy on the other side of the battlefield is quite useful whether you're hardcore or not. But otherwise I agree. Mechanics and build quality are > everything else. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 102	Posted - 2014.05.07 22:57:00 - [13] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more time on the overall play of the game rather than the shiny garbage (that includes trees no one cares about the trees). Don't spew this kind of garbage again.... Im entitled to my opinion you dont like it then stop reading the forums. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Your Absolut End The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad. 491	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:00:00 - [14] - Quote low genius wrote: hardcore gamers care little for graphics. Thats why I'm still stuck on quake, competition doesnt come from graphics
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1708	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:03:00 - [15] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: Harpyja wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more time on the overall play of the game rather than the shiny garbage (that includes trees no one cares about the trees). Don't spew this kind of garbage again.... Im entitled to my opinion you dont like it then stop reading the forums. Then your opinion was just poorly formed with little consideration. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 102	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:05:00 - [16] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: Harpyja wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more time on the overall play of the game rather than the shiny garbage (that includes trees no one cares about the trees). Don't spew this kind of garbage again.... Im entitled to my opinion you dont like it then stop reading the forums. Then your opinion was just poorly formed with little consideration. Great a troll -_- blocking your posts I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8418	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:06:00 - [17] - Quote I'm of the camp that gameplay comes before graphics. But there are a lot of people out there that use graphics as the primary measuring stick of any game. http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 585	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:06:00 - [18] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: low genius wrote: hardcore gamers care little for graphics. Well said Looks at minecraft for example.
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1708	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:08:00 - [19] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: Great a troll -_- blocking your posts Yay, I have a fanbase now!! "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 105	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:09:00 - [20] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I'm of the camp that gameplay comes before graphics. But there are a lot of people out there that use graphics as the primary measuring stick of any game. Yeah unfortunately i come from the line of Pong and Pacman. Where the game play was great but the graphics was crap. And i do believe that a game should function better than it looks. I would rather have a great game that plays terrific than a game than looks awesome that plays like complete garbage. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P

Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 105	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:12:00 - [21] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: low genius wrote: hardcore gamers care little for graphics. Well said Looks at minecraft for example. I was actually thinking of Minecraft when i made the post. Was also thinking of FF7 and some other games that had crap graphics even for their time but still had great everything else. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 332	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:16:00 - [22] - Quote Gameplay >>>>>>>>> Graphics EVERY time. A polished turd is still a turd, and CCP can make the prettiest, most graphically impressive game ever developed, but it won't mean diddley-squat if nobody plays it because the gameplay is broken, unbalanced, or just not fun.
The Jungian Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 87	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:30:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Remember, what you saw was a prototype. Oh please. It had enough work done to get it greenlit through Steam Early Access program as the "Livingquarters" area was super fkn awesome ^ *Hitler decides to CANCEL DUST 514 on PS3*
Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 108	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:41:00 - [24] - Quote Mojo XXXIII wrote: Gameplay >>>>>>>>> Graphics EVERY time. A polished turd is still a turd, and CCP can make the prettiest, most graphically impressive game ever developed, but it won't mean diddley-squat if nobody plays it because the gameplay is broken, unbalanced, or just not fun. I completely agree thats why im hoping they will read this thread and realize that not everyone cares about awesome graphics. Half assed graphics are ok (so long as they dont cause you to fall through the ground every time you spawn) Some day maybe they will take my beloved Dust514 and give me a solo version of it for me to play (kind of like COD blackops1 training mode) not necessarily a PvE but just something so i can keep playing even after they Shut down the servers. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Righteous Holylight God's Kingdom 9	Posted - 2014.05.08 00:25:00 - [25] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: Mojo XXXIII wrote: Gameplay >>>>>>>>> Graphics EVERY time. A polished turd is still a turd, and CCP can make the prettiest, most graphically impressive game ever developed, but it won't mean diddley-squat if nobody plays it because the gameplay is broken, unbalanced, or just not fun. I completely agree thats why im hoping they will read this thread and realize that not everyone cares about awesome graphics. Half assed graphics are ok (so long as they dont cause you to fall through the ground every time you spawn) Some day maybe they will take my beloved Dust514 and give me a solo version of it for me to play (kind of like COD blackops1 training mode) not necessarily a PvE but just something so i can keep playing even after they Shut down the servers. Yes, that's what I want too... :( It really sucks that DUST 514 is going to the chopping block...
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1683	Posted - 2014.05.08 00:36:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more time on the overall play of the game rather than the shiny garbage (that includes trees no one cares about the trees). What we're shown so far is just the graphics because the gameplay changes are still either design documents on the wiki or ideas being hammered out in someone's head. It's early days yet, and while the Game Designers work on their designs, the tech guys can work on the game engine and graphics which is a bit easier to immediately show off. Remember, what you saw was a prototype. Same mistakes being repeated. Game development being done in China has a 12 flip on working sleeping hours with respect to other CCP areas. I.e. a proposed China bug fix needed a CCP EVE question response session but alas daytime in China is night time in other places and thus the bugs were not fixed. Same lack of communication prevalent in where art teams , level design teams, engine codeing teams do not interact with each other. Same problems hireing in China needing fluent Manadarin being a constraint to hireing most talent. Change the studio from China to Canada or Mexico (Cancun, Ixtapa, etc.) since a lot of U.S. southern folks speak spanish and have no problem stareing at scantily clad bikini babes at a Cancun, Ixtapa beaches after work. Avoids the month or two of nothing done due to Chinese holidays and in fact its now cheaper to outsource from a tourist destination in Mexico than it is to do in China...i.e. IT work , hospitals, artwork, etc. ORGANIZE your feedback forums into relevant area specific subforums. F U C K Legion. Planetside 2 , Destiny, Watchdogs, Division, Witcher, Order on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 121	Posted - 2014.05.08 00:42:00 - [27] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: R F Gyro wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: . How many seconds did you manage to watch the Fanfest videos for before you got bored and jumped to your conclusions? I watched the whole thing. And i been playing this game for about 2 years now. So i didnt jump to anything. Its based on their comments and my own observations. They have more interest in making the game look shiny than they do in making the game a playable fun game. Just look at the amount of glitches they still have in the Dust 514 game. Sure when they wanted to make the game look better they rushed to get out a graphics upgrade. But when it came to bug fixes and balancing the gear in the game they just used the nerf hammer. Be hateful all you like but at least i can see CCP for what they really are. Just another game company after your hard earned cash. Make a game look cool and people will buy it they always do, As if the glossy trailers about their "vision" wasn't tipoff enough about their priorities. They constantly, esp after Incarna, over-hype the graphics and various superficial things over gameplay. I think DUST is the first time I heard CCP desperately try to address game functionality on a regular basis. They hate that. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10191	Posted - 2014.05.08 00:44:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more time on the overall play of the game rather than the shiny garbage (that includes trees no one cares about the trees). What we're shown so far is just the graphics because the gameplay changes are still either design documents on the wiki or ideas being hammered out in someone's head. It's early days yet, and while the Game Designers work on their designs, the tech guys can work on the game engine and graphics which is a bit easier to immediately show off. Remember, what you saw was a prototype. How much SP did you invest in it? Markdown:
Trenix Keltron Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 195	Posted - 2014.05.08 00:45:00 - [29] - Quote It is a method of immersion, friend. The environments create the mood of the New Eden universe. I am expecting the prototype to be the best of what Dust offers (gameplay and graphics), if they proceed as planned. OUKH corporation recruitment active. Initiate enlistment protocols. The future is now
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 730	Posted - 2014.05.08 01:06:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Leanna Boghin wrote: More about graphics and how the game looks than about how it plays? I think its safe to say with what you have showed us about Legion and what we have seen on Dust 514 that you care nothing about the game mechanics and overall balance of the game. Sure it looks pretty and shiny but do you really think a player thats fighting against 12 enemy soldiers is really going to stop and take a look at the scenery around them? If you actually do go through with Legion (the generic version fo Dust) I would advise you to spend more time on the overall play of the game rather than the shiny garbage (that includes trees no one cares about the trees). What we're shown so far is just the graphics because the gameplay changes are still either design documents on the wiki or ideas being hammered out in someone's head. It's early days yet, and while the Game Designers work on their designs, the tech guys can work on the game engine and graphics which is a bit easier to immediately show off. Remember, what you saw was a prototype. Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Flamethrower Sign if you refuse to give up on the PS3 Dust



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