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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:37:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Denn Maell wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Zipper the creater of Mag knew how to code for the PS3 plus they built an engine from the ground up specifically
for the PS3. RockStar mastered rendering for the PS3. Meaning alot if the open world doesn't pop up.
They hide it with fog so when You get close to an object that's far away.
It appears gradually.
That's why MAG vets like myself laugh at CCP when they say the hardware is limited. To be honest CCP
is the only developer besides Bethesda that complain about coding for the PS3.
In short if CCP wanted large scale battles they could. They chose not to
And went back to PC cuz that's what they know. No offense, I see what you're saying, but your comparing very different teams with very different experience and talents. What Mag did with its large battles on a console is very much praiseworthy because of its accomplishment. Does this prove that the PS3 is technically proficient to pull it off? Sure, but not every team is going to be able to pull off such an achievement. Let's not make this into a new industry standard all who follow must measure up against. CCP's crowning achievements, hosting an MMO with tens of thousands of players on a single-shard server, a player-driven economy, was an impressive feat in its own right. Dust was supposed to be a way of interacting with that on a completely different level. It's not the hardware it's CCP, they can't code for the PS3. Eve is point and click style MMO, that's what CCP is good at.. No disrespect but console game FPS is way out of thier league.
10/10 for the most ignorant and backwards thing said on the forums besides 'no squads in pubs please'.
So much fail in this thread, ignorant snivelling fail.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:41:00 -
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99% of ccps player base isn't in dust.........
If you think this cute little dust fiasco will even matter a year from now then you are very deluded.
Again, dust makes up about 1-2% of ccps player base. Day one of legion will literally be about 10 times+ more successful that this pos generic fps that has some eve lore in it.
Eve legion for the win, git gud scrubs.
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:45:00 -
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OK OK I'll be good!.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:47:00 -
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da GAND wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:99% of ccps player base isn't in dust.........
If you think this cute little dust fiasco will even matter a year from now then you are very deluded.
Again, dust makes up about 1-2% of ccps player base. Day one of legion will literally be about 10 times+ more successful that this pos generic fps that has some eve lore in it.
Eve legion for the win, git gud scrubs. Lol calm down I was just wondering how much more CCP could've done with the ps3, I wasn't saying that going to PC was a bad idea. I even said at the beginning of the thread that I support Legion.
Ah I was going on at the other bullsht, your post was fair, sorry.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 14:48:00 -
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I'll be playing dust until it dies though.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:28:00 -
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da GAND wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I'll be playing dust until it dies though. I can hardly find a reason to play, I haven't played since last Friday. I was hardly having any fun playing the three modes over and over again. But if CCP is actually serious about supporting Dust and developing it a bit more then I might play it even if it's one new mode. Or if they make interesting changes to any of the modes we have I'd be willing to try it out a bit. I have my passive SP going so it's not like I'm neglecting my character. Edit: I actually played a few days ago and played 3 battles with my buddy in RL and some of my fellow corp members.
When I play its just scouts 514 and its just boring as fk but my some of my corp buddies will be coming to legion and some of us play eve, we'll be in all 3 games until/if dust dies but they have a fairly long bit left on their contract with Sony.
If anyone wants to join Kleenex then feel free. We are not going anywhere.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 21:10:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:da GAND wrote:KING SALASI wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:99% of ccps player base isn't in dust.........
If you think this cute little dust fiasco will even matter a year from now then you are very deluded.
Again, dust makes up about 1-2% of ccps player base. Day one of legion will literally be about 10 times+ more successful that this pos generic fps that has some eve lore in it.
Kisses and hugs? It will matter if they try to develop for a console. Gamers don't forget when a Dev/Publisher screws them over. Just ask EA :) If they make a ps4 version then ya the console only guys here that have been playing the game for so long will try to convince as many people as possible that it's not gonna be a great game or to not trust CCP and whatever else they'll say to get people to not play Legion on the ps4. That's exactly what will happen CCP will have to milk the Eve community have them be the fools.
And how exactly would they milk us?.
Eve Legion FTW!
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 21:16:00 -
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But I bought aurum through choice and had no issue with it either. The only issue I have is bpos but Im not going to cry over pocket change.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 21:39:00 -
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da GAND wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:But I bought aurum through choice and had no issue with it either. The only issue I have is bpos but Im not going to cry over pocket change. They aren't gonna transfer any of our assets? Just our characters with the SP they have?
Nothing is certain but one thing that does seem set in stone is the sp not transferring but that's fair play I say. Clearly jot making the same mistakes as releasing a beta and letting the beta players keep all that sp and stomp the sht out of thousands of newbs, I am guilty of this.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 21:43:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:But I bought aurum through choice and had no issue with it either. The only issue I have is bpos but Im not going to cry over pocket change. I spent $400 on dust happily by the way. My issue is how they They deceived the Dust community with false hope. While developing Legion just to have folks buy Aurum. Sorry that's not cool they can pull Those shenanigans with the Eve community.
And I spent around -ú1000. I don't agree with what has happened but its for the better in both the games sake and in a business sense. There is fk all whining will do about it mate.
Now please remember that dust makes up around 1-2% of ccps player base and its stuck on the console, the machine must go on.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 21:54:00 -
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da GAND wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:But I bought aurum through choice and had no issue with it either. The only issue I have is bpos but Im not going to cry over pocket change. They aren't gonna transfer any of our assets? Just our characters with the SP they have?
And the other reality is that CCP has a contract with Sony that has about 7 years left. Sony announced a while ago that the ps3 will still be going for another ten years, I'd say 7 to be realistic as it does have games people will want to keep but eventually should be available to buy and install re formatted for the ps4 SOONGäó.........
dust has some elements that would very badly affect eve players, some of which have waited years just to drop an OB. CCP cannot simply take that away so either dust will continue but turn fw heavy and go down that route OR eve legion will phase it out completely eventually.
With CCP moving to a platform they are used to, they won't need that many people to develop legion, I think dust will carry on at a very very slow pace and may or may not be shut off in 7 years but CCP owns most of the data...............
You can also add in how fking annoyed ccps shareholders would be to 100% completely scrap dust when they have enough data for the buildings of a game or the possibility of carrying it on in the future.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 21:55:00 -
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So the really really real proper answer is who the fk knows.
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.08 21:58:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:KING SALASI wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:But I bought aurum through choice and had no issue with it either. The only issue I have is bpos but Im not going to cry over pocket change. I spent $400 on dust happily by the way. My issue is how they They deceived the Dust community with false hope. While developing Legion just to have folks buy Aurum. Sorry that's not cool they can pull Those shenanigans with the Eve community. And I spent around -ú1000. I don't agree with what has happened but its for the better in both the games sake and in a business sense. There is fk all whining will do about it mate. Now please remember that dust makes up around 1-2% of ccps player base and its stuck on the console, the machine must go on. CCP does the same thing with Eve Online talk a big game and then don't deliver. I'm at the point with CCP where it's show me what you got NO MORE TALK. The talking is old now :)
What do they do wrong with eve?. I'm high so please cut me a bit of slack lol.
Eve Legion FTW!
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.09 01:06:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I would like to also add based on the presentation; that likely this will feel like a progress nerf because while some of you guys are near top of the trees some of these trees now may be getting MUCH taller and there being more of them despite the merging and its going to feel weird when you're in the middle of the tree again.
I'm glad its not going to be a progressive unlock system.
Eve Legion FTW!
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TechMechMeds
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Posted - 2014.05.09 01:17:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I would like to also add based on the presentation; that likely this will feel like a progress nerf because while some of you guys are near top of the trees some of these trees now may be getting MUCH taller and there being more of them despite the merging and its going to feel weird when you're in the middle of the tree again. I'm glad its not going to be a progressive unlock system. I think of it more like FFXI or FFXIV's system. Its a mix of bonuses, unlocks, and pathing (with the bonuses or unlocked accompanying them) and when you train something up it can be used elsewhere freely with the bonuses following it. The freedom to drill to unlock or the freedom to bonus out every option along the way will be up to you. Every time you fill up a skill 'bar' you get something. No more lvl 2 and lvl 4 doing nothing no more drop suit command 4-5 doing nothing. I anticipate many of you will have plenty of feedback if we can get CCP Z to post the polished idea. While Eve's system is nice with only 1 skill level I can recall being useless its not for the general audience of a shooter crowd remember CCP knows eve is hard to get into and wanted dust 514 to be an alternative to enjoy our universe legion should retain a similar goal lowering the entry bar a bit. and based what I have seen so far; we still by far the most deepest progression shooter out there still putting games like planetside 2 and loadout to shame in terms of character growth a far cry from some of the COD accusations I've seen.
That sounds good yeah.
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