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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.07 21:54:00 -
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We'll just never know.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.08 00:29:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:They could have turned DUST into a competent and refined lobby shooter... That's about it, though.
Large-scale warfare with meaningful ties to EVE, an integrated economy, and all those other "big ideas" would probably only be shoddily implemented on the PS3.
Sure, CCP could attempt to push things to the absolute limit. But that would require them be extremely capable console game developers with intimate knowledge of every facet of the PS3. Which they are not and don't, in case people have not realized it yet. All of CCP's "big ideas" would be difficult to achieve on ANY platform, even the PC. There's a reason why nobody (that I'm aware of) has even attempted such a shared-universe between two different genres.CCP has set themselves some pretty lofty goals that even the best, most experienced developers would have a difficult time implementing successfully, and CCP is neither the best, nor the most experienced. They've already failed once on the PS3. You can blame the platform all you want, but CCP are the one's that claimed they would be able to deliver on that system, not us. They set their own bar, and failed to reach it. Their ambitions exceeded their capabilities. Will they be able to make their "vision" a reality this time around? Maybe. It's a platform they're more accustomed to, and there have been some internal changes at CCP since they started Dust but, personally, as Legion progresses further through development, I fully expect many of their promises and goals to be adjusted, or abandoned altogether (just like we saw with Dust) as they (once again) realize that creating such an intricately shared univers is much, much easier said than done.
Actually, it seems that World of Tanks, World of Warplanes, and World of Warships is trying to achieve the same thing. The concept is still at its infancy, but it looks like the industry might see the birth of a new genre. The genre of the cross-game universe.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8425
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Posted - 2014.05.08 01:00:00 -
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Mojo XXXIII wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Mojo XXXIII wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:They could have turned DUST into a competent and refined lobby shooter... That's about it, though.
Large-scale warfare with meaningful ties to EVE, an integrated economy, and all those other "big ideas" would probably only be shoddily implemented on the PS3.
Sure, CCP could attempt to push things to the absolute limit. But that would require them be extremely capable console game developers with intimate knowledge of every facet of the PS3. Which they are not and don't, in case people have not realized it yet. All of CCP's "big ideas" would be difficult to achieve on ANY platform, even the PC. There's a reason why nobody (that I'm aware of) has even attempted such a shared-universe between two different genres.CCP has set themselves some pretty lofty goals that even the best, most experienced developers would have a difficult time implementing successfully, and CCP is neither the best, nor the most experienced. They've already failed once on the PS3. You can blame the platform all you want, but CCP are the one's that claimed they would be able to deliver on that system, not us. They set their own bar, and failed to reach it. Their ambitions exceeded their capabilities. Will they be able to make their "vision" a reality this time around? Maybe. It's a platform they're more accustomed to, and there have been some internal changes at CCP since they started Dust but, personally, as Legion progresses further through development, I fully expect many of their promises and goals to be adjusted, or abandoned altogether (just like we saw with Dust) as they (once again) realize that creating such an intricately shared univers is much, much easier said than done. Actually, it seems that World of Tanks, World of Warplanes, and World of Warships is trying to achieve the same thing. The concept is still at its infancy, but it looks like the industry might see the birth of a new genre. The genre of the cross-game universe. Okay, so one company is attempting it with three very similar games (basically the same genre - vehicular warfare - with the only real difference being the types of vehicles). Not exactly the same thing as CCP is attempting, with two completely different genres, with actions in each significantly affecting the other, with an extensive shared economy between them. I do applaud CCP's desire to be innovative, especially in a market saturated with copy/paste franchises like COD. I will always support and encourage any attempt to "break the mould" and try do things bigger and better, which is why I support games like MAG and Dust but, after how they CCP handle Dust's development, I'm just not convinced that they're up to the task. I HOPE the prove me wrong, but I just don't BELIEVE that they will.
Don't feel so alone. Many Eve Online players didn't think Eve would survive at all against big-name games like EA's Earth & Beyond or Blizzard's World of Warcraft. In fact, many predicted Eve would die within 2 years after launch which was in 2003. 11 years later...
Eve Online is now the proud holder of the title "Best MMO Economy in the Industry" and sees wars lasting for months and seeing single battles with as many as 3,000 ships duking it out in a single system at its climax. EA's Earth & Beyond died off while Guild Wars 2 admired Eve's economy enough to try to emulate it (though with some setbacks).
I'm not saying Legion and Valkyrie will reach that goal. I too have my doubts. I'm just saying that there is some hope and the odds aren't stacked against us. If you're right about the WoT universe, then that means there is currently no competition against the Eve Universe as no other company is doing the same. I predict that if CCP is ever able to succeed with this concept, then that will result in all the other companies following suit to try to compete by borrowing that concept.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8425
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Posted - 2014.05.08 01:12:00 -
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I happen to notice that the WoT games and Eve games have one thing in common. The companies of both games tried to dabble with the consoles. I remember WoT being featured on the Xbox but I didn't bother with it because... I'm not paying M$ money to play a game that's already F2P. But the game does really well on the PC.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
8438
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:27:00 -
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Atikali Havendoorr wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:
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like EA's Earth & Beyond ....
AHrrrm, Westwood studios! 
Published by EA.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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