Despite hating the thing, I have defended it on all points except for the pushback effect of the rounds which are insane...

It occured to me when logging in today, I have never used one. 120 000 + kills if you include alts and beta, and I have never used that gun once.

So I bought 3 of the basic ones through the faction marked, got my Dren fatty, put on a toxin smg, 2x proto armor reps and a shield extender and tried it out.

WOW - simply WOW. I have always expected it to be easy mode for scrubs with no gungame but come on! The gun is simply put; completely riddiculous in its current form, it destroyes anything, mostly with them not being able to fire back due to the pushback effect.

Several guys got the complete drop on me, filled me full of CR bullets and I only have to casually turn around and more or less one-shot them, no effort or even haste.

And another thing, I got headshot after headshot with it, just aim a little up and it takes care of it for you.

Yeah its supposed to be powerfull and all, but should it really be so EFFORTLESS?

I lost my 2 first suit to gues what? Yes another fatty with a HMG, and the last one to a shotty scout, but at that point I'd basically cleared the room.

And this experience is with 0 skillpoints invested (well core skills obviously), in a 16 K isk+gun fitting...

I can only imagine what would happen if I put 8 M SP into suit and gun and tossed another 200 K isk on the fitting, making it "equal in terms of investment" to my other fittings......


Think you got some kind of skill running around with 1500 HP and a death ray? Think again - I proclaim it being the NR1 EZ-mode of Dust.....

If the HMG and/or EHP of heavies are nerffed, then what makes them diferent from the assault class? And we don't have equipment, just our HMG and forge gun. Killing is kind of the only thing we have out for us. The only issue I see with the HMG is how effective it is at 40m.

At 40 meters you have approximately 40% of your DPS, taking into account bullet spread.

That's pretty damn good considering the obscene damage output the weapon has.

It always seems to do its jab effectively at 40m. This observation comes from both sides of the HMG on numerous occasions.

I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray.

Improving the assault is then my preferred counter to heavies, not nerfing heavies, most likely through racial tanking improvements, pure damage output and regen. Just my general thoughts on the subject.

All heavies are in cqc areas
They never come out they're no ways to effectively counter them, when they're spammed it's stupid.
Hmg is op.
Just the hmg.

I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray.

Improving the assault is then my preferred counter to heavies, not nerfing heavies, most likely through racial tanking improvements, pure damage output and regen. Just my general thoughts on the subject.