DUST Search - I have officially changed my mind

dzizur wrote:

KingBabar wrote:

Despite hating the thing, I have defended it on all points except for the pushback effect of the rounds which are insane...

It occured to me when logging in today, I have never used one. 120 000 + kills if you include alts and beta, and I have never used that gun once.

So I bought 3 of the basic ones through the faction marked, got my Dren fatty, put on a toxin smg, 2x proto armor reps and a shield extender and tried it out.

WOW - simply WOW. I have always expected it to be easy mode for scrubs with no gungame but come on! The gun is simply put; completely riddiculous in its current form, it destroyes anything, mostly with them not being able to fire back due to the pushback effect.

Several guys got the complete drop on me, filled me full of CR bullets and I only have to casually turn around and more or less one-shot them, no effort or even haste.

And another thing, I got headshot after headshot with it, just aim a little up and it takes care of it for you.

Yeah its supposed to be powerfull and all, but should it really be so EFFORTLESS?

I lost my 2 first suit to gues what? Yes another fatty with a HMG, and the last one to a shotty scout, but at that point I'd basically cleared the room.

And this experience is with 0 skillpoints invested (well core skills obviously), in a 16 K isk+gun fitting...

I can only imagine what would happen if I put 8 M SP into suit and gun and tossed another 200 K isk on the fitting, making it "equal in terms of investment" to my other fittings......

Think you got some kind of skill running around with 1500 HP and a death ray? Think again - I proclaim it being the NR1 EZ-mode of Dust.....

making assumptions based on 3 suits used... yeah, that's what I come to expect from these forums, but didn't know good players such as yourself (im basing this on being killed by you) make such dumb statements

FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.


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KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2447	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:15:00 - [1] - Quote Despite hating the thing, I have defended it on all points except for the pushback effect of the rounds which are insane... It occured to me when logging in today, I have never used one. 120 000 + kills if you include alts and beta, and I have never used that gun once. So I bought 3 of the basic ones through the faction marked, got my Dren fatty, put on a toxin smg, 2x proto armor reps and a shield extender and tried it out. WOW - simply WOW. I have always expected it to be easy mode for scrubs with no gungame but come on! The gun is simply put; completely riddiculous in its current form, it destroyes anything, mostly with them not being able to fire back due to the pushback effect. Several guys got the complete drop on me, filled me full of CR bullets and I only have to casually turn around and more or less one-shot them, no effort or even haste. And another thing, I got headshot after headshot with it, just aim a little up and it takes care of it for you. Yeah its supposed to be powerfull and all, but should it really be so EFFORTLESS? I lost my 2 first suit to gues what? Yes another fatty with a HMG, and the last one to a shotty scout, but at that point I'd basically cleared the room. And this experience is with 0 skillpoints invested (well core skills obviously), in a 16 K isk+gun fitting... I can only imagine what would happen if I put 8 M SP into suit and gun and tossed another 200 K isk on the fitting, making it "equal in terms of investment" to my other fittings...... Think you got some kind of skill running around with 1500 HP and a death ray? Think again - I proclaim it being the NR1 EZ-mode of Dust..... FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2455	Posted - 2014.05.07 18:40:00 - [2] - Quote Well, the squad I played with was mostly meh players, the only other Rainbow was Taz-666. Well, this wasn't exactly fighting WTF in PC, just another set of pub like all the rest. Some decent russians in 2 games. I used it on 3 different city maps, you know, where its supposed to be used. When the cities were all blue and cleared I tok my BPO lav and drove to the comfort of the outside letters, plenty of cover etc.... I might see that a shotty scout can definately be a threat, the ones I faced couldn't take down my HP (1273) in time for me to simply turn around and press R1. I did about as good as I nomally would do, (except that I did way better vs other fatties), but this is so far from my playstyle you can possibly get short of camping I have no experience, knows no "tricks" and so on. I mostly run with maxed out weapons, protosuits and everything else for that matter. @ Sota = I have no issues with fatties with light weapons or the suits themselves, they are mostly easy kills, its strictly the gun I think is insanely good. But I have absolutely no PC experience with it, other than dying to small blobs of fatties walking through fields of triage hives with logis tailing..... @ Spkr = Seriously man, ehr..... I have so far defended the HMG's range and damage and even turn speed, the only gripe I've had with it so far is the pushback effect of it, making my speed advantage close to meaningless. Its now, when I kill people with it, not when I get killed by it, I start to QQ. I dunno if you're very young, have dyslectia or are simply trolling, if you actually mean half the stuff you post you get the dubious honour of being the stupidest person I've ever faced on the net, and the competition is quite hard... And not only that, you're spiteful and full of butthurt QQ. You come into nearly every thread I make and start your offensive QQ, mostly leaving valid argumentation and relevant points out off it, just to tell everybody what an idiot I am. I feel really sorry for you man, I'm glad I'm not you. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2456	Posted - 2014.05.07 18:49:00 - [3] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Wait, you're still here Barbar? Surely that rainbow is just a bit of purple & yellow after this weekend? Yeah I'm here, not playing much though. We currently don't have any clan forums outside of these pages so I hope I can set up an Enjin site this weekend. Initial response seems to make us head towards PS2 on the PS4 - Some of us are buying a PS4 for one of our ex-eastern Europe players so that we can all be together. A cute and fussy act if I say some myself. Yeah I couldn't give a rats arse about gun balance in Dust (doesn't mean I'm not right though), I just like the banter and not least reading Spkr's inevital QQ response. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar MAG was better... 2620	Posted - 2014.06.18 05:42:00 - [4] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: While I am glad that you are starting to open your eyes a little more to this game now Babar. You change your mind like the f-ing wind. How can anyone take you seriously? Well, being at the receiving end of a weapon is hardly the right form of experience needed to claim something is OP. Using it yourself, and in this case with close to no Isk and absolutely no SP invsted is a much better way of making a viable opinion. And there is the key argument, use a militia suit of any kind other than a Heavy and put a basic weapon on it with no SP invested and try and average the same results, my guess is that you can't. - A militia/basic fitting with no relevant SPs invested shouldn't be about as effective as a fully specced proto fitting which has 8 M + more SP invested while costing 10 times as much in terms of isk. What do you think would happen if I where using a maxed out proto HMG on a maxed out proto fatsuit? I knew it was easy, but I had no idea how riddiculus it actually was. Therefore, I'm entitled to change mymind due to New information... FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar MAG was better... 2622	Posted - 2014.06.18 12:04:00 - [5] - Quote dzizur wrote: KingBabar wrote: Despite hating the thing, I have defended it on all points except for the pushback effect of the rounds which are insane... It occured to me when logging in today, I have never used one. 120 000 + kills if you include alts and beta, and I have never used that gun once. So I bought 3 of the basic ones through the faction marked, got my Dren fatty, put on a toxin smg, 2x proto armor reps and a shield extender and tried it out. WOW - simply WOW. I have always expected it to be easy mode for scrubs with no gungame but come on! The gun is simply put; completely riddiculous in its current form, it destroyes anything, mostly with them not being able to fire back due to the pushback effect. Several guys got the complete drop on me, filled me full of CR bullets and I only have to casually turn around and more or less one-shot them, no effort or even haste. And another thing, I got headshot after headshot with it, just aim a little up and it takes care of it for you. Yeah its supposed to be powerfull and all, but should it really be so EFFORTLESS? I lost my 2 first suit to gues what? Yes another fatty with a HMG, and the last one to a shotty scout, but at that point I'd basically cleared the room. And this experience is with 0 skillpoints invested (well core skills obviously), in a 16 K isk+gun fitting... I can only imagine what would happen if I put 8 M SP into suit and gun and tossed another 200 K isk on the fitting, making it "equal in terms of investment" to my other fittings...... Think you got some kind of skill running around with 1500 HP and a death ray? Think again - I proclaim it being the NR1 EZ-mode of Dust..... making assumptions based on 3 suits used... yeah, that's what I come to expect from these forums, but didn't know good players such as yourself (im basing this on being killed by you) make such dumb statements LOL, those 3 suits lasted like 12 games....And we're talking about unmodded militia suits here.... And for the record, the suits are perfectly fine, the HMG is the real issue. Not that I actually care, I deleted the game several weeks ago.... Its just funny how I could go so long in 3 militia suits, I've hardly ever gotten so many kills using 3 proto whatever.... I should have recorded it all, I had like a 30+ KDR wearing militia fatty With basic factional HMG.... I can only achieve that in a protosuit when I'm up against the scrubbiest of noobs. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar MAG was better... 2622	Posted - 2014.06.18 12:10:00 - [6] - Quote rpastry wrote: heavy is fine, babar just likes to run at everything ;p Yeah, seing Taz go 30-2 game after game in his HMG speed fit, but that's only Natural for a player with his uber slayer skills... Go and ask Dark ir87 and hear what he says about the matter, his KDR went skyrocketing after the suit respec when he got a fatty/HMG combo.... Don't delude yourselves peeps, HMG/Fatty is the current EZ infantry mode.... Why else would there be such a wast amount of them in nearly every game? (So I've been told anyways...) FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
KingBabar MAG was better... 2622	Posted - 2014.06.18 12:50:00 - [7] - Quote Cavani1EE7 wrote: KingBabar wrote: rpastry wrote: heavy is fine, babar just likes to run at everything ;p Yeah, seing Taz go 30-2 game after game in his HMG speed fit, but that's only Natural for a player with his uber slayer skills... Go and ask Dark ir87 and hear what he says about the matter, his KDR went skyrocketing after the suit respec when he got a fatty/HMG combo.... Don't delude yourselves peeps, HMG/Fatty is the current EZ infantry mode.... Why else would there be such a wast amount of them in nearly every game? (So I've been told anyways...) Taz dropped 37-3 a couple days ago. You would've been proud of him. That was in his Scout-CR combo right? RIGHT????? FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.