Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
1968
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:06:00 -
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They need to go with a 100% Passive system for SP accrual in Legion, it should also mirror Eve in that your Passive SP accumulates in Skills which you have "queued".
If there is to be any Active SP accrual, it should be purely in things which we are actively practicing.
If I use a Combat Rifle, I should be getting SP that can be put towards Combat Rifles (any skill in the Combat Rifle tree that I have already unlocked or unlocking CR tree Skills that I have available to me).
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
1976
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:13:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote: Practice makes perfect? Although this works in games like Battlefield and COD I don't think it actually applies well in Legion/Dust due to the fact that there are plenty of things we need to skill into to actually unlock. Its not like a person can just pick up a Militia HMG and use it without any SP into it. In fact I believe you will be hard pressed to find a Militia HMG on the market.
Yes, currently, there are no Militia HMGs on the market, I am aware of this. However, this suggestion is purely for Legion, which, AFAIK hasn't even really entered production (aside from a Proof of Concept tech demo).
If Legion is built for this from the start, then it stands to reason that there will be Militia versions of all equipment.
Draco Cerberus wrote:Eve uses a skill que to set which skill trains no matter what you are doing, and this method of skilling although it is fully passive, is more akin to the method of skilling you are suggesting.
If you'll note, the first sentence in my post that you quote is:
Alaika Arbosa wrote:They need to go with a 100% Passive system for SP accrual in Legion, it should also mirror Eve in that your Passive SP accumulates in Skills which you have "queued".
The Eve method isn't akin to my suggestion at all, it is my suggestion. I simply make an additional suggestion to account for the existence of Active SP.
Draco Cerberus wrote:If there were to be a change so that all active and passive sp went into the skill in the queue then I think it would be ok but it would mean that choices made prior to acquiring the needed SP to skill an item would matter significantly. Would you really enjoy this type of skill progression?
You're misunderstanding what I proposed, I apologize for having explained it poorly. Only your Passive SP would go directly into a skill you have queued. Active SP that you accumulate would go into a totally separate pool dedicated to the items you used to acquire that SP.
Let's assume for a moment that I don't have Demolitions, Explosives and Grenadier all to 5, for arguments sake we'll say that I have Explosives 3 and Demolitions/Grenadier both to 1.
Since I am a scrub, I go 3/7/11 using only Locus Grenades and Remotes. I got two of my kills using Locus Grenades so that is 100 SP that I can apply towards Grenadier or Explosives (since Grenadier is a child branch of the Explosives tree). My third kill and all of my Assists were from Remotes (**** you Sentinel gk.0 users), this gives me 225 SP that I can apply to Demolitions or Explosives (since Demolitions is a child branch of the Explosives tree). All of this was done while wearing a G-I Scout, thus they could also be spent on Gallente Scout Dropsuit (or Gallente Light Frame since GSD is a child branch of the Gallente Light Frame tree*).
If I spend my 100 Grenadier SP on Grenadier, that gets removed from the pools for GSD/GLF and Explosives. This leaves me with my 225 SP that I earned from Remotes, these can be spent on Demo, Explosives, GSD or GLF. I decide to spend 50 SP on each of those four as well as dumping the remaining 25 SP into Demo.
My Active SP isn't going into an already queued skill, it is going into pools associated with the Skills I used to get the SP.
Yes, I went with a 1 WP:1 SP conversion for simplicity's sake.
I hope this is better explained.
*Dropsuit Command is also a possibility since GSD and GLF are both child branches of the DS Command tree.
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