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Ric Barlom Seraphim Auxiliaries 390	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:24:00 - [1] - Quote I'm gonna go ahead and do something that's gonna irk a lot of people off in these forums. I'm doing it for the love of the game we call Dust514. I'm doing it because I want to see Legion become a success. I'm doing it because it's the right thing to do. And I'm doing it because nobody from CCP has the coconuts to come out here and break it to you guys. It's time for a little come to Jesus meeting, my friends, and I'm gonna let the cat out of the bag right now. That's right, I've had enough of beating around the bush! Legion will not happen on PS4. Yeah, you heard me right and I'm gonna explain exactly why it's not gonna happen on PS4. First of all there has never been a successful shooter that's cross platform between PC and a console, and don't you dare bringing up Shadowrun here. There are a couple of reasons for that but first of all we've got the keyboard/mouse vs a controller issue and anyone who understands FPS knows, for a fact, that a keyboard/mouse is the superior controlling schema and nothing's gonna change that. It's not gonna be fair for the PS4 trying to fiddle around with that shiny plastic joystick, man, while guys like me are raining death upon their sorry asses with precision sniper shots. Now before all you White Knight Sony fans decide to charge out of the woodworks on your high horses, accusing yours truly of advocating the "PC Master Race" movement, let me assure you that I like all platforms. Heck, I even play mobile games. Yeah, that's right, I said it and I'm not gonna take it back. Moreover, back in the day when keyboard/mouse debate for Dust514 was raging, I was against bringing that support into our game for the exact same reason. It will never be balanced, it won't be fun and it won't work. You gotta choose and it's either gonna be a controller or it's gonna be the mouse/kayboard combo and CCP has made their decision clear. I want CCP to be "laser focused" on delivering the best game possible and by porting it to multiple platforms it's only lead to watering down the product. Now there are many other issues here like keeping the game in sync in terms of updates, generational console leaps and dealing with a large corporation like Sony will always be sketchy to say the least. On top of that, when you start piling on the technological constraints, both hardware and software, licensing problems, server issues and database systems, everyone in their right mind should start to get the clue why it's a bad idea. And that's just scratching the surface my friends. And CCP, if anyone in your company, and I mean anyone be it a lead designer or a caretaker, harbours any dreams of PS4 port I suggest you fire their asses before June. Yeah I'm being tough here but that's what it takes at this point to make this game a reality. Tough love. Go and do likewise gents.
Ric Barlom Seraphim Auxiliaries 390	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:38:00 - [2] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: I stopped after "there has been no successful shooter that's cross platform". You are the only one I know of that is assuming the game WOULD be cross platform between PC and PS4. Hint : it wouldn't be. Well even worse, bro. The biggest competitive advantage the EVE Universe has is the fact that everyone is playing in the same "shard" and that everyone can interact with everyone, and I'm not only talking about a chat room here. Oh no, my friend, I'm talking about a full blown sandbox that directly ties into the EVE economy. Creating separate instances and alternative realities and separated player experiences will only water down the experience further.
Ric Barlom Seraphim Auxiliaries 390	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:41:00 - [3] - Quote Maximus Stryker wrote: I tend to agree, PS4 is very unlikely and at best a year behind PC launch which lends me to believe at earliest, PS4 would be in the year 2017. PS. I loved Shadowrun, that was a great game! And considering the fact that the consensus is that this generation cycle will be shorter than the last one, that's gonna be dangerously close to the next wave. I really don't think a long term game that's supposed to stay alive for years and years really fits into the way big console manufacturers do business these days.
Ric Barlom Seraphim Auxiliaries 390	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:45:00 - [4] - Quote Maximus Stryker wrote: Ric Barlom wrote: Duran Lex wrote: I stopped after "there has been no successful shooter that's cross platform". You are the only one I know of that is assuming the game WOULD be cross platform between PC and PS4. Hint : it wouldn't be. Well even worse, bro. The biggest competitive advantage the EVE Universe has is the fact that everyone is playing in the same "shard" and that everyone can interact with everyone, and I'm not only talking about a chat room here. Oh no, my friend, I'm talking about a full blown sandbox that directly ties into the EVE economy. Creating separate instances and alternative realities and separated player experiences will only water down the experience further. The biggest selling point could easily be "one character, three games" Good point. And even that vision would be much more complicated to implement when you start adding different platforms into the mix. Yeah, I get it EVE Valkyrie is being made for PS4 but as far as we can tell at this point, the immediate plan for that game is not to make it an immersive sandbox experience but rather a arcade like, heavy octane dog fighting game.
Ric Barlom Seraphim Auxiliaries 391	Posted - 2014.05.05 14:59:00 - [5] - Quote That's right. I said it. Not gonna take it back either.
Ric Barlom Seraphim Auxiliaries 391	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:15:00 - [6] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Duran Lex wrote: I stopped after "there has been no successful shooter that's cross platform". You are the only one I know of that is assuming the game WOULD be cross platform between PC and PS4. Hint : it wouldn't be. It would have to be wouldn't it? Or would you isolate PS4 players from the rest of the game and thus locking them out of null sov and planetary conquest? I guess you could do that... Yeah, and water down the product to a point where PS4 players miss the whole point of EVE Universe experience... Not good, bro. Not good at all. Who gave out my motherfucking phone number!? I don't wanna be getting any phone calls! I've put Dust way behind me!
Ric Barlom Seraphim Auxiliaries 391	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:19:00 - [7] - Quote Bumb Who gave out my motherfucking phone number!? I don't wanna be getting any phone calls! I've put Dust way behind me!
Ric Barlom Seraphim Auxiliaries 391	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:40:00 - [8] - Quote thesupertman wrote: Who cares? I will probobly get a ps4, because i don't like PC gaming. And I will play destiny, battlefront 3, and planetside, and I will be happy happy happy! Who cares? Well according to your own sig, my man, you seem to care. That being said, if you don't care and you're happy with Destiny, BF3 and Planetside well that's good for you. Not trying to rub anything in for you non PC guys here but just letting you know what's the deal here. Who gave out my motherfucking phone number!? I don't wanna be getting any phone calls! I've put Dust way behind me!
Ric Barlom Seraphim Auxiliaries 393	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:19:00 - [9] - Quote meri jin wrote: @Ric Barlom if this game doesn't come to the PS4, we simply not going to play it. If it comes to the PS4 we will give it the chance it deserves. You have technical possibilities to make controller and kb/m work together, it's not that hard. Both the PC player and the Console player would benefit from cross platforms via a bigger player-pool, and a big player pool is what is needed in New Eden. The game is becoming a 100% sandbox game more and more with every step CCP takes, for sandbox you need a huge pool. Hell I'm would even go so far and say let the xbox guys is, if Microsoft is able to cooperate. And Valkyrie is already on the PS4, so the links are there. Way to stay classy, bro. Goonfeet guy calling me a troll? Really? You busting my balls, right? EDIT: Okay, I'm glad to see you changed your mind and withdrew that trolling comment my man. Well let me tell you something about "player pools", man, because let's make this clear once and for all here: The combined pool of all PC players put together with all PS4 players simply doesn't matter, my man, and let me tell you exactly why. It doesn't matter because we've got strong competition on BOTH platforms and I'm talking about games that are tailor made for that specific platform. If you're gonna go ahead and water down the Legion experience to cater for both the console players, with their console's limitations, and the PC players you end up watering down the experience for both of the groups resulting in an unattractive game. The answer here is to make a laser focused game that takes full advantage of everything the chosen platform offers. Not trolling, not trying to break your heart, bro, but somebody's got to say it because that chosen platform WAS PS3. Now it's going to be PC. Who gave out my motherfucking phone number!? I don't wanna be getting any phone calls! I've put Dust way behind me!
Ric Barlom Seraphim Auxiliaries 393	Posted - 2014.05.06 18:31:00 - [10] - Quote Alina Heart wrote: Stop making Glorified Half page Posts stating the obvious you scumbag, CCP didn't come out and say it because only a complete idiot couldn't figure that on their own. Dust is Dead and I'll be Dead before I ever touch a CCP product again, let alone Legion. Well first of all, bro, what's a "Glorified Half page Post"? Now I get that you're angry my man. You're frustrated. I was too when I heard the way they announced this whole Legion deal. It was a total disaster. Now I'm not saying you need to play Legion and I'm not saying you need to play any CCP game either. Heck, I'll even let you take your frustration out on me here in the Dust514 forums, bro! But what I really suggest you do, is that you crack open a cold bottle of Budweiser, go out there and enjoy the sun, do some barbecue and take it easy for a while. Let your blood pressure drop and come back so we can have an actual conversation, dude. Who gave out my motherfucking phone number!? I don't wanna be getting any phone calls! I've put Dust way behind me!

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