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843 Epidemic
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:10:00 -
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Thought I would take this opportunity to ask 2 questions that have been pressing on my brain. I understand the whole 'NDA' business, and that until you guys get a 'green light' you physically don't know a lot of the answers to pressing questions, but I have two questions:
1) In the event of a RED light on project legion... what does that mean? Back to the drawing board or will Dust 514 work resume and the ps3 will be stretched until it melts? OR, will it be left the way it is regardless?
2) In the event of a GREEN light, it has been said that developers will continue to work on Dust. Does this mean the team will split and there will be dedicated developers to both games, or devs at CCP Shanghai will split their time between the two, of course prioritising Legion? If it is the former, would you be able to give us a list of Devs that will be working on each?
I thank you for your time if you decide to answer these questions.
When Dust is ashes, then you will have my permission to Dance.
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Ducttape Tinker
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
139
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:12:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:Thought I would take this opportunity to ask 2 questions that have been pressing on my brain. I understand the whole 'NDA' business, and that until you guys get a 'green light' you physically don't know a lot of the answers to pressing questions, but I have two questions:
1) In the event of a RED light on project legion... what does that mean? Back to the drawing board or will Dust 514 work resume and the ps3 will be stretched until it melts? OR, will it be left the way it is regardless?
2) In the event of a GREEN light, it has been said that developers will continue to work on Dust. Does this mean the team will split and there will be dedicated developers to both games, or devs at CCP Shanghai will split their time between the two, of course prioritising Legion? If it is the former, would you be able to give us a list of Devs that will be working on each?
I thank you for your time if you decide to answer these questions.
They told dust will have same team, but its smaller part.
Meaning is slower progress if you can name it like that.
Without all that CCP non sence, dust will slowly die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY
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843 Epidemic
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:18:00 -
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Bumping for visibility
When Dust is ashes, then you will have my permission to Dance.
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843 Epidemic
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
991
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:24:00 -
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One last time
When Dust is ashes, then you will have my permission to Dance.
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Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
650
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:41:00 -
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There's said to be 60 devs in Shanghai
Rouge said they'd split the team in half
'#PCMasterRace
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MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:44:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:There's said to be 60 devs in Shanghai
Rouge said they'd split the team in half
Keeping track for your "head count"
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
7025
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:47:00 -
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Does https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2132591#post2132591 answer your question?
CCP Logibro // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
361
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:49:00 -
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I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_>
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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Gaelon Thrace
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
366
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Posted - 2014.05.04 23:52:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_>
I agree.
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Megan Steel
DUST BRASIL S.A
Caps and Mercs
65
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:02:00 -
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Gaelon Thrace wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_> I agree.
Agreed !
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:11:00 -
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Megan Steel wrote:Gaelon Thrace wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_> I agree. Agreed !
Agreed
Images... GOML
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First Prophet
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:13:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Gaelon Thrace wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_> I agree. Agreed ! Agreed
It makes sense which is why CCP refuses to do it.
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Major 0nslaught
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:17:00 -
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Gaelon Thrace wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_> I agree.
it is kind of a good point. we are pissed yes... but we do not want another half-assed job.
Make the tough choices... pull the band-aid.
the space-band-aid |
843 Epidemic
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
995
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:29:00 -
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Major 0nslaught wrote:Gaelon Thrace wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_> I agree. it is kind of a good point. we are pissed yes... but we do not want another half-assed job. Make the tough choices... pull the band-aid. the space-band-aid
Wait a minute...
Are you one of the space-people in IRC right now?
When Dust is ashes, then you will have my permission to Dance.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:31:00 -
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... little bit shocked about going full legion... and no not taking it as a sign of encouramgent I mean i still want to see a few things fixed becuase its going to be a long wait for legion possibly.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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843 Epidemic
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
995
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:34:00 -
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What needs to be done is a set of things they plan to accomplish for Dust before going full-legion.
Once that's done they can transfer.
When Dust is ashes, then you will have my permission to Dance.
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
363
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:... little bit shocked about going full legion... and no not taking it as a sign of encouramgent I mean i still want to see a few things fixed becuase its going to be a long wait for legion possibly.
There are far better things to do while we wait on legion than play a doomed game and beg for nerfs and buffs.
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1647
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:43:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:... little bit shocked about going full legion... and no not taking it as a sign of encouramgent I mean i still want to see a few things fixed becuase its going to be a long wait for legion possibly. There are far better things to do while we wait on legion than play a doomed game and beg for nerfs and buffs.
Agreed.
F U C K Legion.
Planetside 2 , Destiny, Watchdogs, Division, Witcher, Order on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
467
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:51:00 -
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They don't have a choice. Showing Legion signalled the death of Dust. I can garuntee Dusts pop. will slowly reduce after players find out that the battles they fight are completely pointless.
That, and the fact that what was expected for Dust (PVE, Player Economy) wasn't even touched discussed at fanfest.
Pretty sure they've already greenlit Legion. |
Gaelon Thrace
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:55:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:... little bit shocked about going full legion... and no not taking it as a sign of encouramgent I mean i still want to see a few things fixed becuase its going to be a long wait for legion possibly. There are far better things to do while we wait on legion than play a doomed game and beg for nerfs and buffs. Agreed.
Agreed.
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TEXA5 HiTM4N
ROGUE SPADES
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Posted - 2014.05.05 00:59:00 -
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if legion gets the red light the CCP said "we will laugh, have a few beers, and work on something else".
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MR-NASTY
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:04:00 -
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TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote:if legion gets the red light the CCP said "we will laugh, have a few beers, and work on something else".
Yep and they just had to kill dust first, have a few beers and watch it burn, laughing all the way to the bank. |
Major 0nslaught
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:06:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:Major 0nslaught wrote:Gaelon Thrace wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_> I agree. it is kind of a good point. we are pissed yes... but we do not want another half-assed job. Make the tough choices... pull the band-aid. the space-band-aid Wait a minute... Are you one of the space-people in IRC right now?
huh? what are you space-talking about?!? |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:07:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_>
I have a bad feeling that you're right.
On the one hand, we don't want DUST on the PS3 to fall on the way side. But on the other hand, we want CCP to get Legion on the PC right this time.
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:23:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_>
This is why I've been pissed since the keynote...
CCP hasn't thought this through at all...
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:... little bit shocked about going full legion... and no not taking it as a sign of encouramgent I mean i still want to see a few things fixed becuase its going to be a long wait for legion possibly.
Well too bad
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Cinnamon267
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:32:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_>
Indeed. Halving a already small team benefits nothing. Go all in or don't bother. |
Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:35:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_>
Yes, it makes no sense to develop a game that is basically inferior and at that point would lose players to other games or to Legion. Also splitting teams would seem to hurt dev for Legion. Imo either stop development for Dust or outsource it to a different developer , no reason making Dust a TF2 on consoles or COD on PC if Legion comes out. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
3089
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:... little bit shocked about going full legion... and no not taking it as a sign of encouramgent I mean i still want to see a few things fixed becuase its going to be a long wait for legion possibly.
You're joking, right, IWS?
How could anyone be surprised at this point that CCP either doesn't know what the hell they are doing, period, or horribly miscalculated about the reaction to this announcement.
As for going full bore on legion, they may as well. They just killed Dust whether that was their intention or not so it's not going to be financially viable for them anyway.
o7
I'm out. See you on the other side.
psn: bobswerski
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SeeD A
Dust Garden
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:40:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Gaelon Thrace wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_> I agree. Agreed ! Agreed
Agreed
Dust: Keynote of Death
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martinofski
Onsencaliss
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:49:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:... little bit shocked about going full legion... and no not taking it as a sign of encouramgent I mean i still want to see a few things fixed becuase its going to be a long wait for legion possibly.
I am actually shocked they presented Legion at Fanfest like the next big thing for this FPS without even a green light to go all in. CCP presented Eve legion to early and too briefly, making people Biomass and quit DUST minutes after CCP Rouge announcement.
I am not surprise about the comment to go full Legion as it make total sense. Hell, I bought a PS3 to play DUST. I don't have a PC, but could (maybe) built one if I knew CCP would be ready to focus on this platform and go for it all the way. Right now, they just idle in between, presenting a prototypes they aren't even sure they would be able to make work properly.
They have done it wrong. Still trying to create Hype at Fanfest, resulting in frustration more than anything. They need to understand it is time to change the communication method. Kitten the hype and secrets. It work for a game you launch complete, but not for something in development.
DUST or LEGION need to be decided quickly from upper management, take a path, make a move and deal with consequences. What if Legion is full of bug for a full year, will they release another EVE *shoot in da face* on Wii U? Show how serious you are about this.
Was it so hard to say 4-6 month ago : Well guys, we worked on those various projects and there is no way we can integrate those with the PS3 limitations. Do we go PS4 or PC?Get some responses, then take a dive.
Anyway. I'll still play DUST for a while since that is my only game. I might just go and change my hobby.
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
553
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Posted - 2014.05.05 01:54:00 -
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GO FULL ON 100% WITH LEGION! Please learn from the mistakes made with DUST 514. Make Legion the game CCP should have made to begin with!
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Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:00:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Megan Steel wrote:Gaelon Thrace wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_> I agree. Agreed ! Agreed
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:21:00 -
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bump
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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grunt party
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:25:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:2) In the event of a GREEN light, it has been said that developers will continue to work on Dust. Does this mean the team will split and there will be dedicated developers to both games, or devs at CCP Shanghai will split their time between the two, of course prioritising Legion? If it is the former, would you be able to give us a list of Devs that will be working on each?.
a question u for got is how long will they work on dust for and how long after stopping will we get shut down |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 02:46:00 -
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Full Legion development needs to happen.
We know all too well that anything put in Dust just ends up feeling horrible anyway. |
Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.05.05 20:00:00 -
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bump
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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TechMechMeds
KLEENEX INC.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 20:12:00 -
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Agreed solemnly.
Well that was fun
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Khan Hun
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.05 20:14:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:GO FULL ON 100% WITH LEGION! Please learn from the mistakes made with DUST 514. Make Legion the game CCP should have made to begin with!
Agreed, 100% legion. |
Celus Ivara
DUST University
Ivy League
185
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Posted - 2014.05.06 02:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:I hate to sound selfish, but I think if Legion gets greenlit, you guys need to pull ALL DUST development and go %100 on Legion >_> I have a bad feeling that you're right. On the one hand, we don't want DUST on the PS3 to fall on the way side. But on the other hand, we want CCP to get Legion on the PC right this time.
There is a bit of a middle-ground here.
While it will likely be hard to move code between the two games, many assets should be able to exist on both engines.
I agree the great majority of CCP Shanghai's dev power should focus on Legion development, but in all likelihood many things made for Legion can also appear on Dust 514.
Don't go expecting PvE, but sockets, sounds, and weapons might well be trivially portable.
It is plausible that they can still go all-in on Dust: Legion, while also pushing some new content to Dust 514.
Supporting Kevall Longstride, CEO of DUST University, for CPM1
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:31:00 -
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small problem though... CCP would want to somehow link all three games together as they showed in their prophecy trailer. That means while they can build Legion and Valkyrie with that in mind and code both games to allow them to be "linked", eve online is a different story. it wasnt built with a fps or flight sim in mind and presents problems.
Its a lot easier to build something from scratch than it is to build three separate unrelated things and then somehow merge them together after the fact.
If CCP wants to have all three games related and linked together, then they need to stop thinking of their vision as three separate games. They need to go back, start from scratch, and say "this is our vision" and build a game according to that. In this case it'd be one game, that's an fps, flight sim, and scifi mmo. not three separate games linked together with twistie ties and shoe laces |
McFurious
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
743
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:52:00 -
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Go 100% Legion.
Even if they keep fixing things or adding content, I don't see it ever being anything close to what the vision for Dust is supposed to be. It's a shame but at this point, it doesn't really matter. PS3 is dead, let Dust die along with it. Let's get Legion out and complete then work on porting to PS4 (if you must).
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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