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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:14:00 -
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1) Judging from their patches, Sony's process could only help the horrible code that they were putting out. Not only that but they weren't required to put out patches every month, that was just bad managment.
2)I believe they said that they are using UE4. Doesn't matter, just like how you shouldn't build a house on a crap foundation, you shouldn't build a game on crap codebase. Guess what the codebase for dust is?
3) Also allows for a greater canablism rate between games.
4) Is just utter garabage. One the one hand you said that consoles are just specialized PCS, now they are magical boxes that don't do so well with bad code, were as PCs do just fine with it. News flash, bad code is bad code. CCP burned quite a few motherboards and deleted quite a few boot.inis before on PC.
5) LOL, you really think it will be harder to hack on a PC?? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you state something like this. CCP is always 5 steps behind RMT guys, and they only catch the most obvious ones. Just don't use one of the three mining bots avaible on pirate bay and you will be fine.
6) Eve has been re-made at least 3 times now, and it is undergoing another remaking. You want a game to last a long time? You need to remake it. Especially eve which was also build on incredibly bad code, and CCP spent YEARS re-writing the base code in small sections.
No, the problems with dust were 99% bad code, 1% Ps3 limitations.
You expect to get a better result when you have the same team (actually half of that team) from the same studio (slightly smaller than before) on a smaller budget. That is actually insane.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:33:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Quote:
4) Is just utter garabage. One the one hand you said that consoles are just specialized PCS, now they are magical boxes that don't do so well with bad code, were as PCs do just fine with it. News flash, bad code is bad code. CCP burned quite a few motherboards and deleted quite a few boot.inis before on PC.
5) LOL, you really think it will be harder to hack on a PC?? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you state something like this. CCP is always 5 steps behind RMT guys, and they only catch the most obvious ones. Just don't use one of the three mining bots avaible on pirate bay and you will be fine.
4. You are right that bad code is bad code. What I'm saying is that a console is just not the right platform to connect with the Test server. I know because I was there when the PS3 was connected to Singularity. It was not pretty and PS3 were bricking at a higher rate back then compared to now. The PC just happens to have more wiggle room which is why PC suffers less than a console. And yes, I do know about the melted graphics cards of 2011 and the boot.ini. 5. You misunderstood what I said. I never said it was going to be harder to hack a PC. Don't put words on my mouth. I said it will be easier to trace hacks via better unification with the server. Hacks will happens eventually. Again, look at CCP's track record when it came to dealing with illegal RMT bot operations in Eve Online.
4. Listen, just because you re-write the same exact thing again doesn't change that it is completely false. Ps3s were bricking because CCP wrote bad code, not because of singularity. The PC has no more wiggle room for horrible code, as is evidence by CCP's bad code frying motherboards left and right with ambulation, or "bricking" PCs with the boot.ini fiasco.
5. I am VERY familiar with CCP's track record with bots. They ban them after those bots are used for 6 months, then within 2 weeks they are all back for another 6 months.
Also I think you have no clue how tranquilty works. There are "gateways" to tranquility (i.e. servers) all over the world. These gateways are to ensure that people that live on the other side of the world from England (where tranquility is Physically located) have the fastest connections possible. These "gateways" are what you see in dust as the select region server option. In the end, the entire game is still being processed in ENGLAND.
Please do not comment on things that you do not understand.
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.11 03:53:00 -
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Ender Storm wrote:Thurak1 wrote:Mary Lilac wrote:1) Judging from their patches, Sony's process could only help the horrible code that they were putting out. Not only that but they weren't required to put out patches every month, that was just bad managment.
2)I believe they said that they are using UE4. Doesn't matter, just like how you shouldn't build a house on a crap foundation, you shouldn't build a game on crap codebase. Guess what the codebase for dust is?
3) Also allows for a greater canablism rate between games.
4) Is just utter garabage. One the one hand you said that consoles are just specialized PCS, now they are magical boxes that don't do so well with bad code, were as PCs do just fine with it. News flash, bad code is bad code. CCP burned quite a few motherboards and deleted quite a few boot.inis before on PC.
5) LOL, you really think it will be harder to hack on a PC?? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you state something like this. CCP is always 5 steps behind RMT guys, and they only catch the most obvious ones. Just don't use one of the three mining bots avaible on pirate bay and you will be fine.
6) Eve has been re-made at least 3 times now, and it is undergoing another remaking. You want a game to last a long time? You need to remake it. Especially eve which was also build on incredibly bad code, and CCP spent YEARS re-writing the base code in small sections.
No, the problems with dust were 99% bad code, 1% Ps3 limitations.
You expect to get a better result when you have the same team (actually half of that team) from the same studio (slightly smaller than before) on a smaller budget. That is actually insane. Number 5 there: Yea i have to agree if anything it will be much easier to hack anything on PC. At least on the console sony has locked the console down greatly restricting what the end users can actually do. Yes there are hacked consoles out there and its not hard to look up how to do it ( heck with just a little money nearly all ps3's out there can be downgraded then hacked) however sony has a network of bots that detect hacked consoles and autobans them. NONE of this is possible on a PC legally. The PC is the players property and there is no EULA. So CCP can ban the player sure but there is nothing that would stop the same player from making accounts over and over and over again and cheating like hell. With the sony network they ban the playstation system itself (not sure exactly how i suspect they get the MAC address of the system ) Even if CCP did this though its very easy to spoof mac addresses on a computer. What is pathetic is that i know this is already going to be crap if CCP is not constantly vigilant in getting rid of hackers. I play a few steam games that are free to play and despite there being no monetary incentive to cheat people still cheat like crazy. Well i am not sure about that, many PC shooters demand you to install anti-hack software to be able to even play them, like Punkbuster. Systems searching the servers for suspicious behaviour (aka bots) arent a consoles exclusive lile The Last of Us is :) I personaly find few hackers, so, personally, I dont think from my experience that its a big problem. It dosent get ot a level where it bothers me, but I really dont play much CoD or BF, the last shooters I player on my PC were Red Orchestra 2 and Redlight Retribution.
There has never been more tryhards in one place than in new eden. If there is anyway to cheat, the neckbeards will figure it out and do it. Since it will be free to play, and since CCP is apparently lessening the gap (meaning the value of having an aged account) between younger and older players, there is all the incentive in the world to cheat... especially if by cheating in Legion you will be able to play Eve online for free.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:38:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:sorry OP but I don't feel like reading that text wall
anyway consoles are necessary if you like any of the first-party games or third-party ones that aren't on PC. unfortunately consoles are a major source, if not THE major source of income for Sony and the like, so this probably won't be changing anytime soon.
and the cell phone app games "taking over" just means there'll be more pressure to make handheld consoles, possibly something like a Game Boy with cellular service What do you think of the Steam Box, though? Do you think this is what the console players have been looking for in regards to finally matching up the power of the console with the PCs?
Honestly if Valve can get the steam box out for a reasonable price, make it reliable and fool-proof, I think they could actually make some pretty decent waves in the console market. Valve has their work cut out for them though.
I am actually incredibly excited for the project, if valve can find some success, maybe they can finally de-couple PC gaming from windows, and I can dump that crappy OS once and for all. A person can dream can't they?
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