DUST Search - Calling for full CPM resignation

Joseph Ridgeson wrote:

You can disagree and dislike with members of the CPM/CSM (there are certainly a few that I wish never got into the job) but stating that they failed in this regard is silly. Them stepping down is useful for a one time thing but it doesn't do anything. CPM was advocating, at least we hear, for Legion to be announced sooner and with more information. They probably know something we don't that changes the entire thing, at least I hope so, but even if that weren't the case stepping down goes with nothing.

"CPM member has stepped down from their position. We here at CCP would like to thank them for their passion and drive to make DUST 514 the best game possible." That explains nothing really, just that they stepped down. Doing that might also hurt CCP's relationship with the CPM.

But we don't know, right? That has always been a big problem with the CSM/CPM; we cannot see where the CSM/CPM did something good for the player base. Same thing with any kind of democracy. We never get to see where our representatives did something amazing for us but we get to see when the crap hits the fan. I can understand the annoyance because CPM0 was entirely picked by CCP but I don't think this was their fault.

But... we don't know, right?

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Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:27:00 - [1] - Quote That is right. You have all failed us in spectacular fashion. The fact that not one of you stepped down when you heard of Dust's back-burner status (you know, a type of protest you could do without breakingthe NDA) just shows that you do not have DUST'S INTEREST and her community at heart. Seriously now. Especially Iron Wolf Sabre, I have never met a greater enemy to our playerbase than IWS. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Games Haven DUST University Ivy League 132	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:28:00 - [2] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: That is right. You have all failed us in spectacular fashion. The fact that not one of you stepped down when you heard of Dust's back-burner status (you know, a type of protest you could do without breakingthe NDA) just shows that you do not have DUST'S INTEREST and her community at heart. Seriously now. Especially Iron Wolf Sabre, I have never met a greater enemy to our playerbase than IWS. F**k IWS Screw it, I'm Hynox Xitio.
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 142	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:29:00 - [3] - Quote Why would they step down when Dust is finally going to be able to achieve its potential on the platform it should have been on from the beginning? Every single one of them that has posted has said the same thing, they were all shocked and angry (like you are) then they realized how good it is that the game is moving to PC (like a few of us realize now)
The Noob Destroyer Pradox One Proficiency V. 707	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:30:00 - [4] - Quote jenza has been laughing at me in irc saying how wonderful her spa and free vacation was at fanfest. She said the playerbase can go screw itself and left to go get a drink and a massage. CCP fanfest 2014
PR0FESSOR CHAOS Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 10	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:32:00 - [5] - Quote ever wonder why no one from the console community was selected? CBJ and Quickgloves have had more influence than anyone in this game yet the MAG vets that brought thousands of people into this game were overlooked. Typical CCP fanboy
Kelestia Colvolian DUST'S Rouge Wedding 87	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:33:00 - [6] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: That is right. You have all failed us in spectacular fashion. The fact that not one of you stepped down when you heard of Dust's back-burner status (you know, a type of protest you could do without breakingthe NDA) just shows that you do not have DUST'S INTEREST and her community at heart. Seriously now. Especially Iron Wolf Sabre, I have never met a greater enemy to our playerbase than IWS. Actually, I want CCP to keep them on. All the time this bunch of useless, traitorous bunch of f**** are still involved with the CPM, I know exactly who the enemy is and where they can be found. I won't get mugged off twice.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1641	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:34:00 - [7] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Why would they step down when Dust is finally going to be able to achieve its potential on the platform it should have been on from the beginning? Every single one of them that has posted has said the same thing, they were all shocked and angry (like you are) then they realized how good it is that the game is moving to PC (like a few of us realize now) hasn't eve not reached it full potential either. Your having way to much fun with this. You use to be nice Never said I was a good guy. never said i was bad guy either. ladies kept me in check tho. but now they are gone from this game. I can run wild now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Mary Lilac Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 36	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:36:00 - [8] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Why would they step down when Dust is finally going to be able to achieve its potential on the platform it should have been on from the beginning? Every single one of them that has posted has said the same thing, they were all shocked and angry (like you are) then they realized how good it is that the game is moving to PC (like a few of us realize now) Every single one of them has failed the community. Every single one of them has used the NDA as an excuse to allowing thousands of people to get ripped off by CCP. Not one of them did such a simple thing (like resigning) that would not violate the NDA but would signal the community. Not one of them has called CCP on lying to and fleecing it's entire playerbase for 6 months. No they do not represent us, they represent CCP. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 81	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:36:00 - [9] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Why would they step down when Dust is finally going to be able to achieve its potential on the platform it should have been on from the beginning? Every single one of them that has posted has said the same thing, they were all shocked and angry (like you are) then they realized how good it is that the game is moving to PC (like a few of us realize now) Sure you all happy about the idea of Dust moving to PC. And it really is Dust thats moving to PC. Its not a new game like CCP says and wants you to believe. Just look at the game play. Sure they added trees and polished it up but it is still Dust with a different name. So they make it look all shiny and you say ok that looks cool but then.... but then after 2 years they will abandon it for another project like they did Dust on PS3. This is CCP we are talking about and they are very good at feeding people ** and calling it pancakes. If Legion becomes an actual game and you go to play it then i feel sorry for you and your wallet I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P**
Joseph Ridgeson warravens Final Resolution. 1565	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:37:00 - [10] - Quote You can disagree and dislike with members of the CPM/CSM (there are certainly a few that I wish never got into the job) but stating that they failed in this regard is silly. Them stepping down is useful for a one time thing but it doesn't do anything. CPM was advocating, at least we hear, for Legion to be announced sooner and with more information. They probably know something we don't that changes the entire thing, at least I hope so, but even if that weren't the case stepping down goes with nothing. "CPM member has stepped down from their position. We here at CCP would like to thank them for their passion and drive to make DUST 514 the best game possible." That explains nothing really, just that they stepped down. Doing that might also hurt CCP's relationship with the CPM. But we don't know, right? That has always been a big problem with the CSM/CPM; we cannot see where the CSM/CPM did something good for the player base. Same thing with any kind of democracy. We never get to see where our representatives did something amazing for us but we get to see when the crap hits the fan. I can understand the annoyance because CPM0 was entirely picked by CCP but I don't think this was their fault. But... we don't know, right?

Defy Gravity 393	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:38:00 - [11] - Quote dsam
Son Down SamsClub 124	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:39:00 - [12] - Quote Mary Lilac wrote: That is right. You have all failed us in spectacular fashion. The fact that not one of you stepped down when you heard of Dust's back-burner status (you know, a type of protest you could do without breakingthe NDA) just shows that you do not have DUST'S INTEREST and her community at heart. Seriously now. Especially Iron Wolf Sabre, I have never met a greater enemy to our playerbase than IWS. Given recent events, this is possibly the most inconsequential post today.
Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 81	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:40:00 - [13] - Quote I have to agree with the OP here if i had been a CPM that claimed to love this game as much as they claim I would have stepped down from my CPM possition in protest the second i heard about this nonsense. And yeah ** iron wolf saber that guy obviously doesnt give a about anything but himself. All he has ever done is shoot down peoples ideas and tell people to STFU on the forums. That guy should have been REMOVED as CPM a long time ago. I do have to feel kind of bad for those that was hping to become CPM. Their dream of being CPM has been shattered since this ordeal with Legion came about. I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P**
Leanna Boghin B.O.D.A.S 81	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:44:00 - [14] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: Vance Alken wrote: Why would they step down when Dust is finally going to be able to achieve its potential on the platform it should have been on from the beginning? Every single one of them that has posted has said the same thing, they were all shocked and angry (like you are) then they realized how good it is that the game is moving to PC (like a few of us realize now) hasn't eve not reached it full potential either. Your having way to much fun with this. You use to be nice Never said I was a good guy. never said i was bad guy either. ladies kept me in check tho. but now they are gone from this game. I can run wild now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HEY HEY you need to calm your butt down mister. (i am female btw) Dont make me get the hose! I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1641	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:47:00 - [15] - Quote YOU DARE MAKE THIS DEMAND FOR THE RESIGNATION OF THE JEDI COUNCIL ON STAR WARS DAY?! (Takes out light saber) Aye they betrayed the you all, and some of em don't clean their quarters nor have they ever said "hey surt. You want a beer?" We stand by what we stand BY!! that made no sense. and all the ladies left this game already Very well. before you burn this place down, let me loot. good day sirs.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 727	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:55:00 - [16] - Quote The CSM is about as useful as old dogshit on a lost shoe. If they want to play pretend U.N, let them. Woo, Iceland! No one cares about Iceland except viking wannabes and geologists.
Taeryn Frost Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 237	Posted - 2014.05.04 19:59:00 - [17] - Quote Great to see that this forum is still filled with genius armchair commanders. "If I was in charge, why...why so much better..."
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1642	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:02:00 - [18] - Quote Leanna Boghin wrote: Surt gods end wrote: Vance Alken wrote: Why would they step down when Dust is finally going to be able to achieve its potential on the platform it should have been on from the beginning? Every single one of them that has posted has said the same thing, they were all shocked and angry (like you are) then they realized how good it is that the game is moving to PC (like a few of us realize now) hasn't eve not reached it full potential either. Your having way to much fun with this. You use to be nice Never said I was a good guy. never said i was bad guy either. ladies kept me in check tho. but now they are gone from this game. I can run wild now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HEY HEY you need to calm your butt down mister. (i am female btw) Dont make me get the hose! Damn it..... * there went your "running wild"* Aww.. shut up.
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 198	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:02:00 - [19] - Quote Vance Alken wrote: Why would they step down when Dust is finally going to be able to achieve its potential on the platform it should have been on from the beginning? Every single one of them that has posted has said the same thing, they were all shocked and angry (like you are) then they realized how good it is that the game is moving to PC (like a few of us realize now) Uhm, they're representing the wrong game.... ... so, uh, what? We aren't Legion, we are Dust. They fought for THE WRONG GAME.
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 142	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:04:00 - [20] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Vance Alken wrote: Why would they step down when Dust is finally going to be able to achieve its potential on the platform it should have been on from the beginning? Every single one of them that has posted has said the same thing, they were all shocked and angry (like you are) then they realized how good it is that the game is moving to PC (like a few of us realize now) Uhm, they're representing the wrong game.... ... so, uh, what? We aren't Legion, we are Dust. They fought for THE WRONG GAME. Yep, you are dust.

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 9421	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:05:00 - [21] - Quote Ah, CPM being scapegoats, as usual. CPM warned CCP of pretty much everything that's going on right now, but CCP didn't do anything. Also, their reaction was pretty much the same as our reaction, they just had more time to let it sink in. -
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5157	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:06:00 - [22] - Quote Came expecting angry man-children. I was not disappointed. You really think that all of them just quitting and going home would have been any kind of service to the community? Let go of the rage and think rationally. They spent 7 months telling CCP constantly not to do the reveal like they did, and that was even while they were pretty sure they might be ignored. Also, for the love of god STOP this stupid PC vs Console bullshit. Of all the trash I read on these forums that is the lowest and most petty. Basically, because some of us also play on PCs and some of those even play EVE Online, we've magically never played a shooter or console game, or we've somehow lost any right to even think we deserve to be associated with one? Grow up. This thread is disgusting. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
The Noob Destroyer Pradox One Proficiency V. 711	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:06:00 - [23] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Ah, CPM being scapegoats, as usual. CPM warned CCP of pretty much everything that's going on right now, but CCP didn't do anything. Also, their reaction was pretty much the same as our reaction, they just had more time to let it sink in. you mean since october? CCP fanfest 2014
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 9421	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:08:00 - [24] - Quote The Noob Destroyer wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Ah, CPM being scapegoats, as usual. CPM warned CCP of pretty much everything that's going on right now, but CCP didn't do anything. Also, their reaction was pretty much the same as our reaction, they just had more time to let it sink in. you mean since october? Yes. What CCP is doing is good for the game, but with HORRRRRRRIBLE PR and bad timing, bad things happened. Fun fact: Apparently CCP Rouge got some misinformation himself and his yelling was "Legendary" after the keynote. -
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 727	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:08:00 - [25] - Quote Like I said, useless.
Kelestia Colvolian DUST'S Rouge Wedding 92	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:13:00 - [26] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: You can disagree and dislike with members of the CPM/CSM (there are certainly a few that I wish never got into the job) but stating that they failed in this regard is silly. Them stepping down is useful for a one time thing but it doesn't do anything. CPM was advocating, at least we hear, for Legion to be announced sooner and with more information. They probably know something we don't that changes the entire thing, at least I hope so, but even if that weren't the case stepping down goes with nothing. "CPM member has stepped down from their position. We here at CCP would like to thank them for their passion and drive to make DUST 514 the best game possible." That explains nothing really, just that they stepped down. Doing that might also hurt CCP's relationship with the CPM. But we don't know, right? That has always been a big problem with the CSM/CPM; we cannot see where the CSM/CPM did something good for the player base. Same thing with any kind of democracy. We never get to see where our representatives did something amazing for us but we get to see when the crap hits the fan. I can understand the annoyance because CPM0 was entirely picked by CCP but I don't think this was their fault. But... we don't know, right? Well, I think we can prove they failed because the very worst thing we can imagine came to pass: That is DUST got cancelled and CCP lied to us about it for more than six months, with the CPM standing by, enabling CCP to scam us for all that money we coughed up for a dead game. That's precisely what the CPM is supposed to protect us from. They didn't. Quite the opposite, in fact. Now they're laughing at us, having been kept on by CCP to do mug us off whilst they do the same thing with Legion. I think the CPM are scum. Might not be their fault, but they still collobarated 100% in our downfall.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5160	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:14:00 - [27] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The Noob Destroyer wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Ah, CPM being scapegoats, as usual. CPM warned CCP of pretty much everything that's going on right now, but CCP didn't do anything. Also, their reaction was pretty much the same as our reaction, they just had more time to let it sink in. you mean since october? Yes. What CCP is doing is good for the game, but with HORRRRRRRIBLE PR and bad timing, bad things happened with the community. Fun fact: Apparently CCP Rouge got some misinformation himself and his yelling backstage was "Legendary" after the keynote. Judging by how he looked like he was shaking when he came up onstage during CCP Presents!, I'm not surprised. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Scrub Zero Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 370	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:16:00 - [28] - Quote The Noob Destroyer wrote: jenza has been laughing at me in irc saying how wonderful her spa and free vacation was at fanfest. She said the playerbase can go screw itself and left to go get a drink and a massage. Tell that... To go but some makeup on. Did you see her nasty azz nails in that roundtable video? GAG Fking trailer trash representing us.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 5164	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:24:00 - [29] - Quote Scrub Zero wrote: The Noob Destroyer wrote: jenza has been laughing at me in irc saying how wonderful her spa and free vacation was at fanfest. She said the playerbase can go screw itself and left to go get a drink and a massage. Tell that... To go but some makeup on. Did you see her nasty azz nails in that roundtable video? GAG Fking trailer trash representing us. The fact that anyone is listening to The Noob Destroyer anymore is hilarious. From talking to Hans and Nova Knife, the CPM FanFest experience is hardly a 5-star vacation. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Second Cerberus Tested In Production 131	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:32:00 - [30] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: But we don't know, right? That has always been a big problem with the CSM/CPM; we cannot see where the CSM/CPM did something good for the player base. Same thing with any kind of democracy. We never get to see where our representatives did something amazing for us but we get to see when the crap hits the fan. I can understand the annoyance because CPM0 was entirely picked by CCP but I don't think this was their fault. But... we don't know, right? Um, actually... transparency is a key tenet of democracy. If you don't know what your representatives are doing, then it would be hard to hold them accountable would it not? This is why we should have a right to free speech, an independent judiciary, free press, etc. Any of that sound familiar? But as you said, CPM0 was not chosen by the people, so I'm not sure what democracy has to do with this. "I don't always test my code, but when I do, I do it in production." - *CCP*



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