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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.05.07 09:39:00 -
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While I don't agree with everything you said (no to capacitors and dropsuit tiers do have to go), much of what is said in the OPs is exactly what I was thinking when I was watching the presentation.
All suits BPOs - no thanks; EVERYTHING should have a cost
Weapons and modules tied to suit trees - no thanks; EVERYTHING should be flexible
Meta-score based match making - no thanks; I want to be able to go up against stronger suits than mine and still try to take them down, given I play well enough
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.05.07 10:33:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:...What if they removed skill tree bonuses?
Then BPOs would make sense. They'd be your permanent bonuses, in contrast to Dust's model where your bonuses come from the skill tree.
Functionally, it's almost identical, except that each suit would be a different set of bonuses. Which would level the playing field.
Not sure how I feel about that, but it makes sense.
The issue with suits being BPOs is that they cost nothing - the bonuses and skills are irrelevant to that.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 10:29:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Seriously, BPOs are no different from skill bonuses. Are you crying about skill bonuses?
How are BPOs that are phyiscal (if virtual) items the same as skills that are intangible (if virtual) abilities.
Would you be saying the same thing if they make all vehicles BPOs too?
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 13:03:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:I see no issue with vehicle BPOs
This line here invalidates anything else you have said on the subhject of BPOs. gg
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:33:00 -
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Sole Fenychs wrote:Django Quik wrote:Sole Fenychs wrote:I see no issue with vehicle BPOs This line here invalidates anything else you have said on the subhject of BPOs. gg You seem to be under the assumption that turrets and hardeners come free with a BPO vehicle.
Dunno where you got that from - never said anything about mods or weapons.
Vehicle hulls should cost isk just like suits should. Pretty sure tankers have some strong feelings about being damaged/killed by free LAVs with no mods or weapons.
There is zero advantage to making suits all BPOs.
CCP Z seems to want to make suits our 'identities' but that's crap - what if I run both logi and scout; which one's my identity? Oh, I get it, it's because he wants players to only have one identity, to be forced down a single skill path, so we have to play just one role with a limited number of options. That's what his whole presentation was really about when you look at the whole picture. That's why his whole presentation p*ssed off so many people who love this game.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:41:00 -
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Resources shouldn't just appear from thin air (when this game becomes what it is supposed to be) - in PC now we even have to pay for our clones (to some extent). Make anything free and it limits what can be done in the future. When one day manufacturing exists, suddenly we'd have infinite supplies of suits that come from nowhere at no cost. That fits with nothing at all in any context of anything.
Even if the costs per death are the same because mods and weapons are more expensive, the hull (suit) is still a magically free resource. T2 hulls (suits) would be superior to T1 hulls (suits) but cost the same (nothing). That makes no sense and no one would run a T1 because of it. But if hulls (suits) had a cost and T1s were significantly cheaper, people would still have a use for them.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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