DUST Search - DON"T LEAVE!... Gameplay Already Changing.. Game Knowlege Lost

Ryme Intrinseca wrote:

Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:

I WOULD RATHER LOSE TO THE BEST THAN BEAT THE WORST!!!!

I JUST finally started gettin gud. I've been in the top six on the leader board, breaking 1000 wp on a regular basis and my kdr is creeping up. And I did all this as a squad crashing lone wolf. It's been very satisfying to see my name smack dab in the middle of top squads at the end of the match. I was able to do this because I learned how to work with the veteran players. I knew what the they would do to press an objective or to flank the reds and I was there to support before it happened.

But now it has changed. There is less cohesion. Blues don't respond to what I'm doing the same way. A strong offensive turns to a redlined defense. Squad leaders give orders but don't act on it and seem to have forgotten they've given an order off on the opposite side of the map. Blues and reds running amok.

At the end, gone are the usual suspects. No more or very few Nyain Chan/San, Fatal Absolution, Outer Heaven, Heaven's Lost Property, et al.

While some may think this is the end of the protostomp and thus great.... I don't.
I embraced the stomp. It motivated me to get better.
Someday I would be as good as they.

But most important, this game is loosing talent and a WEALTH of knowledge. Years of hard fought experience to draw from MUST BE RELEARNED!!!!!!!

Veterans... if you're still out there... don't go. I need the stompings. TEACH ME!

I'll still be around stomping weaklings until I run out of officer weapons.

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KaTaLy5t-87 Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 189	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:55:00 - [31] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: KaTaLy5t-87 wrote: I'm also out and so is most of my Corp. We were all beta vets who thought we would be here for a long time to come but 02/05/14 was the day Dust died in our eyes. I wish the OP the best of luck and also all the others who we have played with and against. SCHQ was the first corp I joined :( without your guys help I dont know If I would've been playing Dust at this point. Hopefully I see your corp in other games. :) I'm glad you had a positive experience with us. SCHQ will be active in ESO and Destiny when they come out. We're also currently active in Killzone: Shadow Fall which is where I have moved to for the time being. This game would not have been as enjoyable were it not for all those tough battles we fought against some great players. A lot of those players were beta vets, a lot of our players including myself were beta vets and I think CCP should feel ashamed that they have turned away their most loyal Dust players. I am genuinely saddened at the way we have been treated, we placed out faith and trust (and in some cases our money) in CCP. We wanted to support them, to support this game and they have betrayed us and thrown everything back in our faces. They have basically said "thanks for the money, now go f*** yourselves".
Ducttape Tinker Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 129	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:13:00 - [32] - Quote Boyo in OP just this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY aand this http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/3/5677566/Dust-514-project-legion-reaction Markdown
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 93	Posted - 2014.05.05 02:30:00 - [33] - Quote That second link is insulting. It was a great game every hour, minute, second. Came across as they didn't really care about us. We were biomass to them.
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 229	Posted - 2014.05.05 02:45:00 - [34] - Quote The left for a reason Cant blame them The spent 2 or more years in this game for nothing They being screwed over The were continuously feed lies and given false hopes for a better game They are finally done with CCPs ** Im done with their We are all done with their ** basically Im not biomassed yet cause me and my friends need to find the next game to go to where we could do what we do hear in dust on a regular basis CCP makes me physically ill
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 417	Posted - 2014.05.05 02:48:00 - [35] - Quote It might be true that a lot of the vets are leaving, but a lot of them are staying too. I say stick around and continue playing the game, get the rewards out of it, enjoy it while you can. Even if you don't intend on getting Legion, Dust is still free to play, why not enjoy it while it lasts? Plus, there are still plenty of corporations running to join. I've only been here a year myself and I intend to stick around, at least until something better comes out. Still got a few things to unlock that I want, so why not? Maybe we could even squad up sometime?
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3096	Posted - 2014.05.05 03:03:00 - [36] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: o7 to you as well The Rookie Training Grounds were vital to my improvement. Who will mentor now? Not me I'm afraid. I deleted my guides. The death of the persistent universe I envisioned helping to build when I wrote them makes it all meaningless. I'm glad I could help the people that read them and thanked me in game and on the forums for writing them but I'm done paying CCP for the "opportunity" of doing their job for them - they should have been making an NPE but were instead working on another project subsidized by our foolish hope. While the idea of going out in a blaze of glory and burning officer weapons sounded fun at first, I just have not had the desire to log in. The joy of playing is gone, that might be the worst thing CCP has done to me in all this. And while I'm not biomassing, it's solely so I can check in on the forums occasionally to see what if anything has happened and possibly play once or twice over the next several months for shitz and giggles. o7 I'm out. See you on the other side. psn: bobswerski
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS 27	Posted - 2014.05.05 03:04:00 - [37] - Quote I'm out, no point in playing. 3 years wasted dude... 3 years.. Screw you CCP, y'all are leaving DUST behind. Never forget 514, we carved the way.
Grimmiers 517	Posted - 2014.05.05 03:06:00 - [38] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: It's very, very depressing today. I think i'll finish capping out this event and maybe that's it. Yup, I already had my last cigarette. )
Soozu 5o1st 190	Posted - 2014.05.05 03:12:00 - [39] - Quote Paladin Sas wrote: ive been here since very early closed beta, and ill give you the best knowledge of all. #1. use cover, it doesnt deplete like your measly shields/armor do #2. point the pewpew end of your gun towards the enemy, it makes life easier I noticed people don't like getting shot at. I think that should be #3 Remember to shoot at people. Seriously though, half turn and run even when taking only minor damage, when in doubt, start shooting.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 98	Posted - 2014.05.05 03:27:00 - [40] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Dust is still free to play, why not enjoy it while it lasts? It is soooooooooooo hard to do now. The matches are boring. There is NO action. No tanks, no dropships, few orbitals. I am grinding out my last 31k sp and it is difficult even with the event boost. I should be done. But I developed my tactics based on what the vet squads would do and they are gone so my WP gains are halved. I actually smiled when I got stomped by some Nyain Chans and Anonymous Gods a few matches ago. ACTION PACKED!!!! Its painful. I worked hard to get where I was, as did sooooo many.

Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 880	Posted - 2014.05.05 03:31:00 - [41] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: I WOULD RATHER LOSE TO THE BEST THAN BEAT THE WORST!!!! I JUST finally started gettin gud. I've been in the top six on the leader board, breaking 1000 wp on a regular basis and my kdr is creeping up. And I did all this as a squad crashing lone wolf with no mic. It's been very satisfying to see my name smack dab in the middle of top squads at the end of the match. I was able to do this because I learned how to work with the veteran players. I knew what they would do to press an objective or to flank the reds and I was there to support before it happened. But now it has changed. There is less cohesion. Blues don't respond to what I'm doing the same way. A strong offensive turns to a redlined defense. Squad leaders give orders but don't act on it and seem to have forgotten they've given an order off on the opposite side of the map. Blues and reds are running amok. At the end, gone are the usual suspects. No more or very few Nyain Chan/San, Fatal Absolution, Outer Heaven, Heaven's Lost Property, Ancient Exiles, DNS et al. While some may think this is the end of the protostomp and thus great.... I don't. I embraced the stomp. It motivated me to get better. Someday I would be as good as they. But most important, this game is loosing talent and a WEALTH of knowledge. Years of hard fought experience to draw from MUST BE RELEARNED!!!!!!! Veterans... if you're still out there... don't go. I need the stompings. TEACH ME! Te heart of this game has been torn out. Don't worry dude, There will be a new chance to get good once CCP gets Legion out the door. Just make sure you can play an FPS with a mouse and keyboard. Then you should be fine. Munch Anyone who buys AUR now is a fool.
Rupture Reaperson SyNergy Gaming EoN. 314	Posted - 2014.05.05 04:03:00 - [42] - Quote Huh funny, if more of the EvEtard eggheads had got into the same train of thought as OP 2 years ago, this would had been a whole different game. ...Pity, oh well, back to laddering i guess.
Jace Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5	Posted - 2014.05.05 04:09:00 - [43] - Quote I just see no reason to log on anymore. None at all. Short of PC, there is ZERO reason to play this game, and I only play PC because FA is a fun bunch of guys, and they make PC a blast to play. Still coming to terms with this. I only know one thing for certain. CCP will NEVER get even a DIME from me, ever again. As for the games? We'll see if they deliver. But they will never have my financial support again.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 99	Posted - 2014.05.05 04:10:00 - [44] - Quote Rupture Reaperson wrote: Huh funny, if more of the EvEtard eggheads had got into the same train of thought as OP 2 years ago, this would had been a whole different game. ...Pity, oh well, back to laddering i guess. It took me a while to get there though. I hated the stompings at first. But I learned from it. I did what they said..HTFU. I refused to leave this game because other players got the best of me. I'm not a quitter. At least now I can bow out with my head held high. Oh look, I just took first place with 550 wp
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2014.05.05 13:01:00 - [45] - Quote I capped out last night and it was hard to take. I had to double check I was playing on the American server because I could swear it was Oceana. I can't play like this.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 343	Posted - 2014.05.05 13:57:00 - [46] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: I WOULD RATHER LOSE TO THE BEST THAN BEAT THE WORST!!!! I JUST finally started gettin gud. I've been in the top six on the leader board, breaking 1000 wp on a regular basis and my kdr is creeping up. And I did all this as a squad crashing lone wolf with no mic. It's been very satisfying to see my name smack dab in the middle of top squads at the end of the match. I was able to do this because I learned how to work with the veteran players. I knew what they would do to press an objective or to flank the reds and I was there to support before it happened. But now it has changed. There is less cohesion. Blues don't respond to what I'm doing the same way. A strong offensive turns to a redlined defense. Squad leaders give orders but don't act on it and seem to have forgotten they've given an order off on the opposite side of the map. Blues and reds are running amok. At the end, gone are the usual suspects. No more or very few Nyain Chan/San, Fatal Absolution, Outer Heaven, Heaven's Lost Property, Ancient Exiles, DNS et al. While some may think this is the end of the protostomp and thus great.... I don't. I embraced the stomp. It motivated me to get better. Someday I would be as good as they. But most important, this game is loosing talent and a WEALTH of knowledge. Years of hard fought experience to draw from MUST BE RELEARNED!!!!!!! Veterans... if you're still out there... don't go. I need the stompings. TEACH ME! Te heart of this game has been torn out. I'd love to play again, but I traded my PS3 in for an Xbox One, maybe if CCP hadn't told me that the only way I was going to get good is to buy omega boosters, or orgin packs or AU gear for the last 3 months all the time knowing they were going to pull this move I would have stayed. Have fun supporting an company that just wants to use you as a beta tester while you pay them for the opportunity Make a man a fire and he will be warm for a night, set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2495	Posted - 2014.05.05 13:59:00 - [47] - Quote IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD! THE END IS HERE!
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 421	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:17:00 - [48] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Dust is still free to play, why not enjoy it while it lasts? It is soooooooooooo hard to do now. The matches are boring. There is NO action. No tanks, no dropships, few orbitals. I am grinding out my last 31k sp and it is difficult even with the event boost. I should be done. But I developed my tactics based on what the vet squads would do and they are gone so my WP gains are halved. I actually smiled when I got stomped by some Nyain Chans and Anonymous Gods a few matches ago. ACTION PACKED!!!! Its painful. I worked hard to get where I was, as did sooooo many. Seriously, we should squad sometimes I rarely have a problem finding good games, and the stomps always seem to favor the other team when I join in a game. I'm not sure if it was mentioned (crappy memory) but did you say what you were running, suit and weapon wise? Sometimes switching up your setup is the best way to enjoy the game.
Will Driver Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 43	Posted - 2014.05.06 20:51:00 - [49] - Quote MJ, I think you are right about gameplay changing. I've noticed a lot more disorganized play. I agree that being proto-stomped, while not fun, forced me to find other ways to contribute, whether it being hacking, sneaking around the back and dropping an uplink, or taking up A/V (not very effective against Tanks but has helped cut down on murder taxis). Some vets will leave, but in their wake new leaders will emerge. Maybe you'll be one of them. GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥ GÇò Albert Einstein
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 813	Posted - 2014.05.06 21:03:00 - [50] - Quote I'm still trying to play. A lone wolf heavy. It's hard work and I take beatings but it is worth it. Seeing lots and lots of proto/officer gear now. But many of the good players have left. I tried to use the squad finder today, first thing I do when I get in was send everyone in the squad 5 million ISK each to help out. They acted like it was nothing. Not even a thank you. LOL Listening to them ramble on about how they are going to get into PC now that most of the good players have left was entertaining to say the least. Poor chaps have heart, I give them that. Oh, they blamed DNS for the proto stomping LOL "CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"

Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 345	Posted - 2014.05.06 22:05:00 - [51] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Veterans... if you're still out there... don't go. I need the stompings. TEACH ME! Te heart of this game has been torn out. I'm still here... erm kinda... a bit... sorta add me we'll squad up whole place definitely has a ghost town thing goin Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
The Noob Destroyer Pradox One Proficiency V. 807	Posted - 2014.05.06 22:07:00 - [52] - Quote pay me to stay and I will pubstomp u all u want. $500 a month. come on , pay my rent. -GJR CCP fanfest 2014
The Noob Destroyer Pradox One Proficiency V. 807	Posted - 2014.05.06 22:08:00 - [53] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: I'm still trying to play. A lone wolf heavy. It's hard work and I take beatings but it is worth it. Seeing lots and lots of proto/officer gear now. But many of the good players have left. I tried to use the squad finder today, first thing I do when I get in was send everyone in the squad 5 million ISK each to help out. They acted like it was nothing. Not even a thank you. LOL Listening to them ramble on about how they are going to get into PC now that most of the good players have left was entertaining to say the least. Poor chaps have heart, I give them that. Oh, they blamed DNS for the proto stomping LOL lolololol all the crap players are still crap players but at least now they can make themselves feel relevent. CCP fanfest 2014
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 386	Posted - 2014.05.06 22:11:00 - [54] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: OP I am out good luck to you What will you be playing? neckbeard simulation
Forlorn Destrier 2436	Posted - 2014.05.06 22:22:00 - [55] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: I WOULD RATHER LOSE TO THE BEST THAN BEAT THE WORST!!!! I JUST finally started gettin gud. I've been in the top six on the leader board, breaking 1000 wp on a regular basis and my kdr is creeping up. And I did all this as a squad crashing lone wolf with no mic. It's been very satisfying to see my name smack dab in the middle of top squads at the end of the match. I was able to do this because I learned how to work with the veteran players. I knew what they would do to press an objective or to flank the reds and I was there to support before it happened. But now it has changed. There is less cohesion. Blues don't respond to what I'm doing the same way. A strong offensive turns to a redlined defense. Squad leaders give orders but don't act on it and seem to have forgotten they've given an order off on the opposite side of the map. Blues and reds are running amok. At the end, gone are the usual suspects. No more or very few Nyain Chan/San, Fatal Absolution, Outer Heaven, Heaven's Lost Property, Ancient Exiles, DNS et al. While some may think this is the end of the protostomp and thus great.... I don't. I embraced the stomp. It motivated me to get better. Someday I would be as good as they. But most important, this game is loosing talent and a WEALTH of knowledge. Years of hard fought experience to draw from MUST BE RELEARNED!!!!!!! Veterans... if you're still out there... don't go. I need the stompings. TEACH ME! Te heart of this game has been torn out. I'm still here, though I'm not the best (used to be among the best but don't play enough anymore to keep my skills sharp).
Super Sniper95 Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 126	Posted - 2014.05.06 22:30:00 - [56] - Quote None DDB have left, we are still here running squads. ;) Sniper Rifle 4life 0/ Longest kill 599.99 meters SR optimization lvl 5 \0/ I dont need Thales to hit 40/0.
Ahkhomi Cypher Team Bad Decisions 9	Posted - 2014.05.06 22:58:00 - [57] - Quote I know the AM FM crew is gonna be playing until the servers get shotguned. Ill play once i get back to my ps3 #TBD#yepyep#tryharderererthenme?#cantdoit#seemslegit
LtGen Shanks Kinsho Swords Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.05.06 23:12:00 - [58] - Quote OP, you remind me of myself. Two days ago, I actually said "WTF?!" as I went 53-2 in a Skirmish game. ...Never in my Dust career have I attained such a score, so something had to be up. However, that changed when I went to Ambush and proceeded to go 14-11 in a match against Nyain San. It's all good though. I'm trying to get rid of all these proto suits and Ambush seems like my best bet at accomplishing this.
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 279	Posted - 2014.05.06 23:25:00 - [59] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: I WOULD RATHER LOSE TO THE BEST THAN BEAT THE WORST!!!! I JUST finally started gettin gud. I've been in the top six on the leader board, breaking 1000 wp on a regular basis and my kdr is creeping up. And I did all this as a squad crashing lone wolf. It's been very satisfying to see my name smack dab in the middle of top squads at the end of the match. I was able to do this because I learned how to work with the veteran players. I knew what the they would do to press an objective or to flank the reds and I was there to support before it happened. But now it has changed. There is less cohesion. Blues don't respond to what I'm doing the same way. A strong offensive turns to a redlined defense. Squad leaders give orders but don't act on it and seem to have forgotten they've given an order off on the opposite side of the map. Blues and reds running amok. At the end, gone are the usual suspects. No more or very few Nyain Chan/San, Fatal Absolution, Outer Heaven, Heaven's Lost Property, et al. While some may think this is the end of the protostomp and thus great.... I don't. I embraced the stomp. It motivated me to get better. Someday I would be as good as they. But most important, this game is loosing talent and a WEALTH of knowledge. Years of hard fought experience to draw from MUST BE RELEARNED!!!!!!! Veterans... if you're still out there... don't go. I need the stompings. TEACH ME! I'll still be around stomping weaklings until I run out of officer weapons. Bruh im 200k sp away from officer AR :/ Stomping with thales though
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 347	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:52:00 - [60] - Quote For real tho, if you're missing getting stomped play on the northamerica servers I haven't played a single even REMOTELY balanced game since the wedding. If anything they're worse. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.



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