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Godin Thekiller wrote:

KalOfTheRathi wrote:

Gyn Wallace wrote:

"Yes, you will be able to keep your stuff" -CCP Rouge, regarding migration from Dust 514 to Legion.

He is a high level manager. He doesn't know squat about either game frankly so nothing he babbles out has truth behind it.

Dust is based on SP earned either passively or through WP in battle. SP is spent on the Skill Tree to improve the abilities of your Merc (until they Gank the role out from under you).

Legion will not use a Skill Tree and the SP will be meaningless there. Your improved functionality will be obtained by getting better gear (much like Borderlands does although they have a Skill Tree as well). The acquisition of better gear has been clearly demonstrated to various industry journalists as a point and click Salvage operation of battle debris fields.

The sandbox part of the game will allow Legionnaires to find a spot to attempt to salvage gear based on the security level of New Eden they are comfortable playing in. They will be easy prey for the Pod Peeps with their Spreadsheet Spaaace Ships. So safe if best in the beginning.

CCP Rouge is attempting to sell their PR reaction to the incredibly bad announcement of Legion during the keynote titled Dust that contained nothing except Legion related news. So he is shuffling.

Think of anything he says in the next few months as the actions of a KB/M Scout. Dodging so fast the game engine cannot get a hit because of the lag between the clients and the server.

You are the Blue Berry trying to get a hit, he is the Scout ensuring that you don't. Pirate

Another day, another shiv, welcome to New Eden.

At the Dust keynote, they specifically stated that there would be SP. They even showed it on the damn screen......

Stop interpreting the Dust/Legion news from others, get it from the source: http://www.twitch.tv/ccp (then click videos)

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Gyn Wallace OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 103	Posted - 2014.05.03 17:30:00 - [1] - Quote "Yes, you will be able to keep your stuff" -CCP Rouge, regarding migration from Dust 514 to Legion.
vogon mugwump Silent but Violent 1	Posted - 2014.05.03 18:58:00 - [2] - Quote Where was this stated?
Den-tredje Baron The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 260	Posted - 2014.05.03 19:08:00 - [3] - Quote ccp presents keynote at the start by ccp rouge
Secondarius Maximus Bragian Order Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2014.05.03 20:17:00 - [4] - Quote how i can get my biomassed char back?
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 659	Posted - 2014.05.03 22:21:00 - [5] - Quote Secondarius Maximus wrote: how i can get my biomassed char back? Submit a ticket stating as much. Should get it back. Something clever that makes people think Im not a bitter **.
Archbot W a r F o r g e d 169	Posted - 2014.05.03 22:35:00 - [6] - Quote Viva la Legion! LONG LIVE LEGION!
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 481	Posted - 2014.05.04 00:03:00 - [7] - Quote Does that include getting my console playability back?
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1314	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:05:00 - [8] - Quote Gyn Wallace wrote: "Yes, you will be able to keep your stuff" -CCP Rouge, regarding migration from Dust 514 to Legion. He is a high level manager. He doesn't know squat about either game frankly so nothing he babbles out has truth behind it. Dust is based on SP earned either passively or through WP in battle. SP is spent on the Skill Tree to improve the abilities of your Merc (until they Gank the role out from under you). Legion will not use a Skill Tree and the SP will be meaningless there. Your improved functionality will be obtained by getting better gear (much like Borderlands does although they have a Skill Tree as well). The acquisition of better gear has been clearly demonstrated to various industry journalists as a point and click Salvage operation of battle debris fields. The sandbox part of the game will allow Legionnaires to find a spot to attempt to salvage gear based on the security level of New Eden they are comfortable playing in. They will be easy prey for the Pod Peeps with their Spreadsheet Spaaace Ships. So safe if best in the beginning. CCP Rouge is attempting to sell their PR reaction to the incredibly bad announcement of Legion during the keynote titled Dust that contained nothing except Legion related news. So he is shuffling. Think of anything he says in the next few months as the actions of a KB/M Scout. Dodging so fast the game engine cannot get a hit because of the lag between the clients and the server. You are the Blue Berry trying to get a hit, he is the Scout ensuring that you don't. Another day, another shiv, welcome to New Eden. And so it goes.
Cosgar 9250	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:24:00 - [9] - Quote Gyn Wallace wrote: "Yes, you will be able to keep your stuff" -CCP Rouge, regarding migration from Dust 514 to Legion. Funny he mentions this after all hell broke loose when the Dust 514 keynote became a legion keynote. This community is the nail in Dust 514's coffin, waiting to be hammered in.
Astr0 Knot Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.05.04 09:40:00 - [10] - Quote Gyn Wallace wrote: "Yes, you will be able to keep your stuff" -CCP Rouge, regarding migration from Dust 514 to Legion. "If you like your SP, you can keep your SP" -CCP Obama

Gyn Wallace OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 104	Posted - 2014.05.04 14:58:00 - [11] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Gyn Wallace wrote: "Yes, you will be able to keep your stuff" -CCP Rouge, regarding migration from Dust 514 to Legion. He is a high level manager. He doesn't know .... Legion will not ... I'm always fascinated to read all about how you know more about Dust and Legion's future than "a high level manager." at CCP. [/sarcasm] I've never read a post of yours, Kal, that didn't display the sort of myopic distortion some people with some technical expertise so frequently display. You sound like you're good at what you do, but you didn't build Eve or Dust. I presume you won't be part of the team building Legion. You are partially correct though, in that none of us really know what Legion will really wind up looking like. How could we? Its what? one, two..., maybe three years into the future, given how slowly Dust was developed and released? We all knew the PS3 wasn't going to be hitched to a personal computer game forever. IMHO, all of the talk about Legion being a separate game from Dust514 looks blatantly driven by a legal advisor; i.e. CCP doesn't want Sony coming back someday and demanding a share of whatever profits they get out of Legion. It makes perfect sense that CCP would want a clean break from their agreements with Sony. Is CCP Rougue in damage control mode? Sure. The community inferred all sorts of things from his "Dust" keynote. CCP has clarified, answering the two biggest questions regarding future patching and development of Dust514 and migration to Legion. I absolutely agree that it was boneheaded of them not to anticipate and answer those questions on the first day of fanfest, but I'm not terribly surprised that CCP would botch this aspect of the Legion announcement. Even talented geeks are human an prone to error, especially outside their area of expertise. -Gyn Wallace/Min Lo
Gyn Wallace OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 104	Posted - 2014.05.04 15:02:00 - [12] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Gyn Wallace wrote: "Yes, you will be able to keep your stuff" -CCP Rouge, regarding migration from Dust 514 to Legion. Funny he mentions this after all hell broke loose when the Dust 514 keynote became a legion keynote. The cynic in me speculatively attributes this not to a temper tantrum thrown by players on the forums, but to a call to someone at CCP from someone at Sony asking, "Why are our shared customers demanding PSN refunds for false advertising? This is costing us money."
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 84	Posted - 2014.05.04 16:00:00 - [13] - Quote Astr0 Knot wrote: "If you like your SP, you can keep your SP" -CCP Obama EPIC!!!!
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2133	Posted - 2014.05.04 16:21:00 - [14] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Gyn Wallace wrote: "Yes, you will be able to keep your stuff" -CCP Rouge, regarding migration from Dust 514 to Legion. He is a high level manager. He doesn't know squat about either game frankly so nothing he babbles out has truth behind it. Dust is based on SP earned either passively or through WP in battle. SP is spent on the Skill Tree to improve the abilities of your Merc (until they Gank the role out from under you). Legion will not use a Skill Tree and the SP will be meaningless there. Your improved functionality will be obtained by getting better gear (much like Borderlands does although they have a Skill Tree as well). The acquisition of better gear has been clearly demonstrated to various industry journalists as a point and click Salvage operation of battle debris fields. The sandbox part of the game will allow Legionnaires to find a spot to attempt to salvage gear based on the security level of New Eden they are comfortable playing in. They will be easy prey for the Pod Peeps with their Spreadsheet Spaaace Ships. So safe if best in the beginning. CCP Rouge is attempting to sell their PR reaction to the incredibly bad announcement of Legion during the keynote titled Dust that contained nothing except Legion related news. So he is shuffling. Think of anything he says in the next few months as the actions of a KB/M Scout. Dodging so fast the game engine cannot get a hit because of the lag between the clients and the server. You are the Blue Berry trying to get a hit, he is the Scout ensuring that you don't. Another day, another shiv, welcome to New Eden. At the Dust keynote, they specifically stated that there would be SP. They even showed it on the damn screen...... click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2013	Posted - 2014.05.04 16:28:00 - [15] - Quote Gyn Wallace wrote: "Yes, you will be able to keep your stuff" -CCP Rouge, regarding migration from Dust 514 to Legion. Good quote, and good news. Now is the time to make sure CCP doesn't make the mistake of thinking a game without a skill tree belongs in New Eden. 0.02 ISK Cross PS ~ If Legion, which is likely two or more years out, does include a skill system and transfers SP from D514 as well as assets then there's no major reason for objection. After all being able to play on both PC and PS4 should open the door up for many players. If on the other hand we are stripped of assets, SP or persistent sandbox play from D514 then it is indeed wasted time and investment in game. So really it comes down to how CCP handles taking our feedback and incorporating it into Legion, one is actually a win-win for players and Devs, the other path will essentially be a breach of trust. SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
The-Errorist 674	Posted - 2014.05.05 14:51:00 - [16] - Quote Secondarius Maximus wrote: how i can get my biomassed char back? Well you shouldn't have biomassed in the first place.
The-Errorist 674	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:03:00 - [17] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: KalOfTheRathi wrote: Gyn Wallace wrote: "Yes, you will be able to keep your stuff" -CCP Rouge, regarding migration from Dust 514 to Legion. He is a high level manager. He doesn't know squat about either game frankly so nothing he babbles out has truth behind it. Dust is based on SP earned either passively or through WP in battle. SP is spent on the Skill Tree to improve the abilities of your Merc (until they Gank the role out from under you). Legion will not use a Skill Tree and the SP will be meaningless there. Your improved functionality will be obtained by getting better gear (much like Borderlands does although they have a Skill Tree as well). The acquisition of better gear has been clearly demonstrated to various industry journalists as a point and click Salvage operation of battle debris fields. The sandbox part of the game will allow Legionnaires to find a spot to attempt to salvage gear based on the security level of New Eden they are comfortable playing in. They will be easy prey for the Pod Peeps with their Spreadsheet Spaaace Ships. So safe if best in the beginning. CCP Rouge is attempting to sell their PR reaction to the incredibly bad announcement of Legion during the keynote titled Dust that contained nothing except Legion related news. So he is shuffling. Think of anything he says in the next few months as the actions of a KB/M Scout. Dodging so fast the game engine cannot get a hit because of the lag between the clients and the server. You are the Blue Berry trying to get a hit, he is the Scout ensuring that you don't. Another day, another shiv, welcome to New Eden. At the Dust keynote, they specifically stated that there would be SP. They even showed it on the damn screen...... Yes, they even went into more detail about the SP and the skill tree progression using the SP on the Dust 514: Progression (Mostly Legion) presentation and QA. Stop interpreting the Dust/Legion news from others, get it from the source: http://www.twitch.tv/ccp (then click videos)


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