I'm settling in for a long night on the forums. Talk to me.

pf... How to betray console gamers, especially the same console gamers you exploited for 2 years, constantly throwing "Dust" in our eyes.

It didn't have to be first, they choose it for there own time comfort, regardless of how it spits in our face.

How many times are people going to say, "But it's easy to port over!" before they realize it means the same backwards too?

In other words you're telling us to just "Adapt or die". What's your game as a service? Where is the service? This is just wrong, seriously. The vast majority of this community would have welcomed a ps4 port, I'm sure of it.

Why does it needs to be mediocre? If the game needs to be competitive, then PC is a no-go anyway. There's nothing more, besides the fact we were told this was going to be a sony exclusive.

[What exactly will set Legion apart from every other FPS on PCs? It has burning trees because leaves don't exist in its universe? Because it has rocks? A PvE mode, like any old horde mode? What exactly makes it different, is it that EVE players will come play it? Is that it, so it can regrab an audience that CCP owns? Having EVE pilots drop strikes? The supposed boarding of ships (let's be realistic here), is that it?

I know that Prophecy video made EVE, Legion, and Valkyrie interacting look amazing, but, that won't happen, at least not for a long, long time (isn't Valkyrie gonna be on its own server anyway?).

Oh, wait,right now Dust is garbage. The player base is still here because they invested their time and money in CCP's dreams. It's like taking our money and develop the game on a different platform, that's it. Imagine, how would Eve players feel if they were told that a version of Eve with awesome cool stuffs was going to be developed on, let's say, PS 5 and left you with a "but you can still play Eve on PC, no worries!". Jita wouldn't simply burn, it would implode.

So, answering directly to your question, no. Dust as is would never be a good competitor in fps on consoles. But that's why they should develop Legion on ps4! This was the plan, just stick with it.

do you guys understand that the appeal of dust was that there was never going to be a 'dust 2'. that's the reason we started playing. there's no 'eve:online 2'.

if you announced eve online 2 at fanfest, what do you think the reaction would be?

Just suppose for a second it could be easier (even if I think it's pretty much the same amount of work). There's a huge difference between what's the easy thing to do and what's the right thing to do.

And I'm not talking about porting Dust, I'm talking about Project : Legion, which admittedly is a reworked Dust, not updated.

Anybody who buys AUR now is a fool.


Munch

One more thing, a friend of mine in Dust (Jax Thrife) bought over 30 merc packs in closed beta and both the Veteran and Elite packs. Then spent all of his AUR on booters and activated every booster he had. When Dust dies, how will he be refunded for his remaining booster time?

I dont understand why that wouldnt be the default way of doing it? Just respec everything again.

I understand where you're coming from on those quotes, and it absolutely wasn't my intention to lie to people. We are still fully committed to developing those games (as mentioned several times), and furthermore DUST and Project Legion are both very much part of the EVE Universe.

Again, I understand where you're coming from and it wasn't my intention to come across as "lying" to people - prior to the reveal it was difficult for me to explicitly state the distinction between the work on DUST 514 and Project Legion.

Why are you still here? You've made it apparent that you want Dust to die. CCP is working on it. Why are you still commenting on these threads?

Also, Saberwing, by not saying anything, you are pretty much lying to us still. Good job, man. Good job.

OUR "Investment" doesnt mean **** if we dont own a PC. You know as well as i do that the majority of players for Dust 514 are CONSOLE ONLY. Do you really expect them to just up and Buy a console for a game that may very well get scrapped like your scrapping dust? I for one have no intention of investing any further in Dust or in your "new toy". You did the community a disservice and you and all of CCP knows it

#hashtagtheycanmakeitontheps4justaseasilyasthepc

This decision is ultimately out of my hands here, but I will pass the overall desires and concerns on. But, as I mentioned several times elsewhere - PC is the first step to next-gen. Basically, while we haven't ruled out a move to a next-gen console, PC is going to be the focus first.