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DJINN Kujo Dirt Nap Squad. 1128	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:31:00 - [1] - Quote I admire your determination to strive forward and make something out of Dust 514. After todays Keynote, you have indeed justified the thought of, for the last two years, you have had console players beta testing a PC game designed for EVE players exclusively. I know you guys read the forums, a lot of players feel abandoned by this call of Project Legion. Again, I completely understand your motivation to make this game something. But by practically telling the current Dust community, that you are giving up on the console scene is a PR move that can not be justified. The foreseen future of this game is in your hands now, it was never a game designed by the community which is something you guys cherished your proclamations in. There has been fixes due to sparked interests in the community, do not get me wrong on that aspect. The current forums are filled with rage and anger for what everyone was excited for. We had no idea what we were excited for except to get to hear some new development about Dust which we were quickly silenced in confusion. You asked for feedback via your Twitch stream, this is my feedback. Probably something you did not want to hear, but I am truly being honest when I am saying, you are making a huge mistake with current events, and I do hope that there is something in those brains that will keep us enticed. You also mention that we may not be able to transfer characters from another thread, if that is true, that is even yet another reason people would quit. I will not say everyone will leave, but me personally being the CEO of a corporation that holds the most veterans in this game, I can exclusively say you have put a foul taste in our mouth. I really hope a DEV responds to this, to at least show the community you want to care. Sorry for all the negativity, again, I am just being honest and hope you would understand why. Leaving your console players behind is cutting your resources easily in half if not more. Dust needs to go competitive for it to stride to even bigger heights than anybody would imagine. It can be done on PC, sure. Publicity sake, Dust would be a revolution for FPS games on a console. It would be the new Halo so to speak. This is most likely my farewell though - I look forward to community responses to see where thoughts are held currently. >One benefit of being poor is that it doesn't take much to improve the situation Fact: *Brokest CEO in Dust*
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 497	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:37:00 - [2] - Quote A well written post DJINN. My heart is heavy right now for DUST and the future of the playerbase. Personally I will make the move to PC when the time comes, and I do hope to see you in New Eden again, but for now DUST will become a hobby shooter for me. Happy hunting and i'll see you all on the field or forum. Mihi gravato Deus - "Let God lay the burden on me!" The Space Hippie
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4111	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:40:00 - [3] - Quote If I can get a confirmation right now that Dust will not come to PS4, then I will spend the subsequent 24hrs plucking up the courage to post an image of my biomassed characters. Sure, why the f*ck not?
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1082	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:40:00 - [4] - Quote Well said, Kujo. I'd summarize my feelings like this: It takes a long time to build trust in a company/brand/game, and only an instant to destroy it. I hope it's simply emotion speaking -- and I don't regret the time or money I've invested in Dust/CCP -- but I doubt I will ever give CCP the opportunity to burn me a second time.
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro PAND3M0N1UM Top Men. 369	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:42:00 - [5] - Quote Bump FAME Click for Vehicle Support Click for Recruitment
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1217	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:45:00 - [6] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Well said, Kujo. I'd summarize my feelings like this: It takes a long time to build trust in a company/brand/game, and only an instant to destroy it. I hope it's simply emotion speaking, but I doubt I will ever give CCP the opportunity to burn me a second time. same here, when CCP said a new evolution for dust, what they really meant is "F-UCK all you ps3 players we're moving to PC, thank you for all the money you have given us, and we hope you pour in more cash while we milk dust 514 till legion comes out" considering Dust 514 was the first game i played from CCP, and now that they have kicked us in the balls i feel like once this is over i just cant trust them or even trust them enough to play their next game YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
DJINN Kujo Dirt Nap Squad. 1140	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:45:00 - [7] - Quote thanks for the bump lol >One benefit of being poor is that it doesn't take much to improve the situation Fact: *Brokest CEO in Dust*
NAV HIV Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1712	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:46:00 - [8] - Quote 2 Years of Work... Almost 240 days of Straight log in, Not missing an event, countless hours spent and dealing with every sort of bug thrown at our way... THis is what we get in return at the end of it all... Forget about money... I for one feel betrayed... Conned, tricked and finally neglected...
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2857	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:47:00 - [9] - Quote Also a beta vet. I am disgusted by how CCP has handled this as well and have no plans to support any of their products at any time. Ever. If they bring legion to PS4 and port our characters I will reconsider this stance but otherwise they have lost a customer without question. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 10	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:48:00 - [10] - Quote Please stop treating us like we are idiots! Transferring us over is easy NOT hard! Let me spend oh 2 seconds thinking about it. 1) Char names easy add them to the new game first 2) isk transfer, convert and put in account and call it whatever isk , disk , l$ whatever, 3)SP same as isk convert and put in account, 4) loot a) convert to dust isk equivalent and then convert to new game isk b) convert to new game items 5) AUR same 6) BPO same if have in new game, if not convert to aur and then convert aur to new game. Now for code, ummm lets see oh I know lets us the scripts we use for respecs they work and poof everything is done! Now lets deal with Sony, if their truly is a policy question about who owns this stuff ccp vs sony (which I doubt their is) then ccp could still do all of the above except for item 1) and still be legal. Now lets see them try and tell us how hard this would be and see them double speak to us!

Omega Black Zero Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 54	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:52:00 - [11] - Quote And to our loyal Dust 514 players, you get jack! Thanks for playing and for all the fish, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out!
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 801	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:55:00 - [12] - Quote The next evolution of Dust should have been ps4. My disappointment knows no bounds. ...
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 608	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:55:00 - [13] - Quote I'm fine with starting over as long as I retain my name '#PCMasterRace
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3647	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:56:00 - [14] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Well said, Kujo. I'd summarize my feelings like this: It takes a long time to build trust in a company/brand/game, and only an instant to destroy it. I hope it's simply emotion speaking -- and I don't regret the time or money I've invested in Dust/CCP -- but I doubt I will ever give CCP the opportunity to burn me a second time. This is where I'm at. They need to get on damage control and figure out a way to make me whole as a customer if I even consider continuing to do business with them. I'm already selling assets in Eve. Level 3 Forum Warrior
Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 842	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:58:00 - [15] - Quote To put it rationally, and as civilized as I can be right now. I will say, I feel blindsided. I came into Fanfest this morning feeling excited and uplifted. After that debauchery they had the gall to call a "DUST 514 Keynote", I instantly lost all real investment in this game. Why play a game that even the developer is trying to sweep under the rug and replace? I feel like I've been used, and lied to. Why even say you're going to have a DUST Keynote if all it is is talking about a new game? just say "secret panel" or something. By putting "DUST 514 Keynote" on all the schedules, you falsely got our hopes up. which is why a lot of us feel lied to. I personally won't be around much longer either. Summer is coming up, and with it a plethora of new titles. Your timing is bad CCP. and I hope you realize you made a mistake some day. Enjoy your beloved PC consumer base, though.
Your Absolut End The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad. 441	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:59:00 - [16] - Quote I'd put it like this: If theres no chartransfer to legion, they screwed us over. before that I'm not sure, don't have a poblem continueing he fight on a PC if I can keep my invested time and money. IF they screwed us over We need to get active, lets damage legion from the day it launches, exploit and ** up other players, legion will never becom profitable and no matter how much effort they put in the game, we will be their to bring it down. In other words: We are legion, we are many. expect us. Let's start a war! another one bites the Dust... Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!**
bigolenuts Dirt Nap Squad. 612	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:59:00 - [17] - Quote CCP reeks of niggerdom "I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."-1958, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
SteelDark Knight Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 364	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:59:00 - [18] - Quote Quote: Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me
NAV HIV Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1728	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:59:00 - [19] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Well said, Kujo. I'd summarize my feelings like this: It takes a long time to build trust in a company/brand/game, and only an instant to destroy it. I hope it's simply emotion speaking -- and I don't regret the time or money I've invested in Dust/CCP -- but I doubt I will ever give CCP the opportunity to burn me a second time. This is where I'm at. They need to get on damage control and figure out a way to make me whole as a customer if I even consider continuing to do business with them. I'm already selling assets in Eve. I don't play EVE cause it's in PC, would've played it if it was available in another platform too... We spent so much time on this... If this goes to PC only, then all of us who spent so much time and money and effort will receive one big "F U Thank you for you money"
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1476	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:01:00 - [20] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Well said, Kujo. I'd summarize my feelings like this: It takes a long time to build trust in a company/brand/game, and only an instant to destroy it. I hope it's simply emotion speaking, but I doubt I will ever give CCP the opportunity to burn me a second time. same here, when CCP said a new evolution for dust, what they really meant is "F-UCK all you ps3 players we're moving to PC, thank you for all the money you have given us, and we hope you pour in more cash while we milk dust 514 till legion comes out" considering Dust 514 was the first game i played from CCP, and now that they have kicked us in the balls i feel like once this is over i just cant trust them or even trust them enough to play their next game Agreed. Trust that is broken is hard to if not impossible to regain. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.

mollerz 3357	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:01:00 - [21] - Quote DJINN Kujo wrote: Leaving your console players behind is cutting your resources easily in half if not more. Dust needs to go competitive for it to stride to even bigger heights than anybody would imagine. It can be done on PC, sure. Publicity sake, Dust would be a revolution for FPS games on a console. It would be the new Halo so to speak. You are in luck. just jump from one beta to the next CCP is now about as relevant as myspace. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1223	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:02:00 - [22] - Quote the devs are just reading the forums and deleting threads. they dont have the balls to post anything right now because they know how much s-hit they are in. YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 803	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:03:00 - [23] - Quote We'll my post seems to have mysteriously vanished expressing my distaste for announcing a new game in the Dust 514 keynote and the fact any remaining faith in them was gone. Might have said something about not supporting them in their future endeavors ... :) ...
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 155	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:03:00 - [24] - Quote Kujo your are mostly right. Now they won't justify publicly but main reason is for money's sake. I posted a thread with this 3 days before this Dust keynote and hit it spot on. On a business perspective it is unwise to pour resources into a game that they were seeing little return from since our player base was so low. The NPE for this game is complete garbage and was non-salvageable for the resources CCP has. No reason to spend alot of money for the sake of ~1000 consistent aurum buyers. Only way to fix the NPE easily......is a fresh start. They've learned from their dust 514 project. Even it they do find a way to transfer characters, whats going to happen? The NPE is going to be crushed again and their marketing strategy for Legion will fail. From previous post 3 days ago: "I could see from a marketing standpoint that it (Legion) will be stand alone from Dust, meaning a fresh start from scratch. Dust 514 I feel was an experiment to hype the EVE universe which is their main source of income. In turn, did not turn up the best way possible and had only like a 1% retention of players whom created accounts. Most FPS vets don't want to come in at a HUGE disadvantage (SP) when their normal routine for a FPS is to excel from the start. So in the effort of having much greater population: Would you play and level a merc ALL OVER AGIAN if by then the game was worked on and made better?"
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8241	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:05:00 - [25] - Quote +1 Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1223	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:05:00 - [26] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: We'll my post seems to have mysteriously vanished expressing my distaste for announcing a new game in the Dust 514 keynote and the fact any remaining faith in them was gone. Might have said something about not supporting them in their future endeavors ... :) lol they just dont have the balls to face us YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Canari Elphus Dirt Nap Squad. 1529	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:12:00 - [27] - Quote WhataguyTTU wrote: So in the effort of having much greater population: Would you play and level a merc ALL OVER AGIAN if by then the game was worked on and made better?" Its not the starting over part, its the not trusting CCP to not screw you over again and again. The ONLY way I would even log on to legion is if we got monetary credit for all AUR/Boosters/Packs spent on Dust in hopes of progressing towards something big. Canari Elphus - Biomass Date 5.14 Agustus Elphus - Biomass Date 5.14 Kochbiel - Biomass Date 5.14 GG CCP
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 155	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:14:00 - [28] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: WhataguyTTU wrote: So in the effort of having much greater population: Would you play and level a merc ALL OVER AGIAN if by then the game was worked on and made better?" Its not the starting over part, its the not trusting CCP to not screw you over again and again. The ONLY way I would even log on to legion is if we got monetary credit for all AUR/Boosters/Packs spent on Dust in hopes of progressing towards something big. I wholeheartedly agree, but from a legal perspective, CCP owes you nothing as long as they say they are supporting Dust 514 on PS3. I do hope they compensate old dust players, who continue on to Legion, somehow.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 169	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:20:00 - [29] - Quote CCP is afraid to take on creators like bungie and others on the PS4! They would've moved this game already otherwise?! They're tucking their tales and running back to PC early instead of facing potential defeat?! Some company with balls will pluck CCP's ideas on this game clean and come up with an outstanding genre, while CCP hides on PC?! Already pre ordered destiny and will be on when beta access is released! I'm out! "Anybody order chaos?"
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1234	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:22:00 - [30] - Quote you know whats sad? our corp just turned 1 years old today and we thought our corp would live on forever, now we know that our corp will most likely not even reach 2 years old CCP GETTING RID OF DUST???!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4555	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:27:00 - [31] - Quote DJINN Kujo wrote: wrote a very nice post My reaction to this whole debacle Credit goes to Mollerz for the pic Headed to Destiny, to Hell with this company. PSN: EVL_Elgost105 Hit me up if you wanna play
keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 206	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:27:00 - [32] - Quote No one cares about you. For CCP, money talks and BS walks (and runs too) F* this CCP.
WhataguyTTU 0uter.Heaven 155	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:28:00 - [33] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: you know whats sad? our corp just turned 1 years old today and we thought our corp would live on forever, now we know that our corp will most likely not even reach 2 years old LMAO, yes indeed. I've been soo proud of Outer Heaven that we have survived as a corp through Planetary conquest Wars losing all of our districts and 1/2 our A-team TWICE!!!! Hardwork was all for null.
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD 171	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:29:00 - [34] - Quote WhataguyTTU wrote: Kujo you are mostly right. Now they won't justify publicly but main reason is for money's sake. I posted a thread with this 3 days before this Dust keynote and hit it spot on. On a business perspective it is unwise to pour resources into a game that they were seeing little return from since our player base was so low. The NPE for this game is complete garbage and was non-salvageable for the resources CCP has set. No reason to spend alot of money for the sake of ~1000 consistent aurum buyers. Only way to fix the NPE easily......is a fresh start. They've learned from their dust 514 project. Even it they do find a way to transfer characters, whats going to happen? The NPE is going to be crushed again and their marketing strategy for Legion will fail. MY BEST ADVICE: This is not the first game that most of you (community) have dumped coutless hours into before moving on to your next gaming interest. I've played almost every call of duty and from game to game you lose all your ranking and gun progressions. The sooner you can treat your money losses on this game as an "entertainment fee" the easier you will move on with your life. If anything, you helped support what will be the game we always wanted and, for some, will never have. From previous post 3 days ago: "I could see from a marketing standpoint that it (Legion) will be stand alone from Dust, meaning a fresh start from scratch. Dust 514 I feel was an experiment to hype the EVE universe which is their main source of income. In turn, did not turn up the best way possible and had only like a 1% retention of players whom created accounts. Most FPS vets don't want to come in at a HUGE disadvantage (SP) when their normal routine for a FPS is to excel from the start. So in the effort of having much greater population: Would you play and level a merc ALL OVER AGIAN if by then the game was worked on and made better?" Player base being low is due to unbalance, OP weapons, and lack of PVE?! Which this community has been saying for months to no avail! They don't listen!!! Cloaks are stupid, but if you want to do well you must spec in?! Same with rail and combat rifles?! Every update the fotm takes over the game?! Instead of just fixing bugs, adding game modes, and buffing the amount of features, they add OP weapons, don't fix bugs, and completely ignore the community while swearing that they listen to us in the same breath while they don't respond to threads?! Big ups to CCP logibro for having the spine to respond on the threads posted! Hope to see you in other games bro! Not even a CPM post on to kiss CCP's ass has been posted so you know it's over lol! "Anybody order chaos?"
alten hilt DUST University Ivy League 245	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:29:00 - [35] - Quote My response here But to quote a part Quote: I understand people's rage. I started playing (and paying for) DUST because it promised a "Sandbox shooter". A promise it has consistently failed to achieve, and I've felt rage at this betrayal. I stopped spending money when I realized DUST 514 would not be able to fulfill that vision, Legion feels like a return to the original idea, but considering the state of your first promise of a sandbox shooter, why should I believe you when you say Project Legion will fulfill that vision? If DUST is your evidence, why are you creating a "different project, with different development tracks"? This I think, is the core of player's complaints/tears/rage/concerns, and this is the elephant in the room that you need to clearly address with your players. Making DUST 514 a Sandbox Shooter
Canari Elphus Dirt Nap Squad. 1531	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:29:00 - [36] - Quote WhataguyTTU wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: WhataguyTTU wrote: So in the effort of having much greater population: Would you play and level a merc ALL OVER AGIAN if by then the game was worked on and made better?" Its not the starting over part, its the not trusting CCP to not screw you over again and again. The ONLY way I would even log on to legion is if we got monetary credit for all AUR/Boosters/Packs spent on Dust in hopes of progressing towards something big. I wholeheartedly agree, but from a legal perspective, CCP owes you nothing as long as they say they are supporting Dust 514 on PS3. I do hope they compensate old dust players, who continue on to Legion, somehow. I know that they dont legally owe me anything and thats why Im not saying refund but rather credit towards the new game. Either way, I dont trust them to put any time/effort into another of their 'projects' Canari Elphus - Biomass Date 5.14 Agustus Elphus - Biomass Date 5.14 Kochbiel - Biomass Date 5.14 GG CCP
The Willful Paradox Bragian Order Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:30:00 - [37] - Quote CCP - So long and thanks for all the fish! Soon TM = Never TM CCP to Dusters - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojydNb3Lrrs
DJINN Loki 149	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:32:00 - [38] - Quote DJINN Kujo wrote: I admire your determination to strive forward and make something out of Dust 514. After todays Keynote, you have indeed justified the thought of, for the last two years, you have had console players beta testing a PC game designed for EVE players exclusively. I know you guys read the forums, a lot of players feel abandoned by this call of Project Legion. Again, I completely understand your motivation to make this game something. But by practically telling the current Dust community, that you are giving up on the console scene is a PR move that can not be justified. The foreseen future of this game is in your hands now, it was never a game designed by the community which is something you guys cherished your proclamations in. There has been fixes due to sparked interests in the community, do not get me wrong on that aspect. The current forums are filled with rage and anger for what everyone was excited for. We had no idea what we were excited for except to get to hear some new development about Dust which we were quickly silenced in confusion. You asked for feedback via your Twitch stream, this is my feedback. Probably something you did not want to hear, but I am truly being honest when I am saying, you are making a huge mistake with current events, and I do hope that there is something in those brains that will keep us enticed. You also mention that we may not be able to transfer characters from another thread, if that is true, that is even yet another reason people would quit. I will not say everyone will leave, but me personally being the CEO of a corporation that holds the most veterans in this game, I can exclusively say you have put a foul taste in our mouth. I really hope a DEV responds to this, to at least show the community you want to care. Sorry for all the negativity, again, I am just being honest and hope you would understand why. Leaving your console players behind is cutting your resources easily in half if not more. Dust needs to go competitive for it to stride to even bigger heights than anybody would imagine. It can be done on PC, sure. Publicity sake, Dust would be a revolution for FPS games on a console. It would be the new Halo so to speak. This is most likely my farewell though - I look forward to community responses to see where thoughts are held currently. great post kujo. i feel this will be a farewell for many, but i still have hope for this game and would love to see it come to fruition, be it on ps3, ps4 or PC. i just want one dev to come out and tell us the truth. itll sting and we will be angry, but we will get over it and move on. word
Meee One Hello Kitty Commandos 763	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:34:00 - [39] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: If I can get a confirmation right now that Dust will not come to PS4, then I will spend the subsequent 24hrs plucking up the courage to post an image of my biomassed characters. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
NAV HIV Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1742	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:13:00 - [40] - Quote Meee One wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: If I can get a confirmation right now that Dust will not come to PS4, then I will spend the subsequent 24hrs plucking up the courage to post an image of my biomassed characters. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html Half-way down the page.... "Decker didn't specify how long CCP would continue to support Dust 514 for, and confirmed it would remain only on PS3 despite talk of possible long-term next-gen support at EVE Fanfest last year." Must've been one butthurt blue berry who got proto stomped and decided "NO i can't use a DS3! I'll make Everyone play it in PC cause whoever has the BEtter PC would own"

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3029	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:20:00 - [41] - Quote Even if going to PC was the best course of action, the way they handled the announcement was a PR disaster rivaling the New Taste of Coke! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Illuminaughty-696 Omega Risk Control Services 309	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:22:00 - [42] - Quote Closed beta vet as well. I was outraged when they changed the wording on the merc packs AFTER everyone bought them, and now I'm just shrugging as I expected no less from CCP. Well written, DJINN. I have lost what little respect I had left for CCP today.
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 334	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:57:00 - [43] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Well said, Kujo. I'd summarize my feelings like this: It takes a long time to build trust in a company/brand/game, and only an instant to destroy it. I hope it's simply emotion speaking -- and I don't regret the time or money I've invested in Dust/CCP -- but I doubt I will ever give CCP the opportunity to burn me a second time. How are you burned??? They tried to make it work on the PS3. Well the PS3 can't hack it....and it will be seriously outdated hardware before long. If you want Dust to be a game that can persist for years and grow and achieve its full potential it has to be on PC. And from PC it can be ported to PS4 potentially. You made all your efforts to develop your character for nothing? Logibro already said that if they possibly can transfer characters over from Dust to Dust 2, they will. They're not sure if or how it would work but they hope it will and will try. What more can you ask for?? I can understand the frustration of a lot of players that don't have a PC and/or don't want to lose their characters' progress but seriously, get over yourself just a little bit and have some appreciation for the fact that they are actually trying to make Dust into something truly awesome and competitive with all the upcoming next gen games. No offense to those who don't own gaming computers--they are a significant investment--but Dust should be awesome enough to require more than what a PS3 can offer. To be a real working MMOFPS that has high level graphics, smooth connections, large battles, EVE integration, and all the rest, CCP needs it to be on PC so that they can do what only they can do. They've been stifled by the PS3's and Sony's limitations, but now they're free to make an amazing game. As for skill point carryover/compensation for real money investment, I'm sure CCP will try their best to give us something to work with to start off. But hey, it's a new game! You have to start with a new character. If it's not enough of an improvement on Dust 514 then go play Destiny, but if it turns out to be an awesome realization of what Dust could be and is something totally new in gaming (which looks likely to me) then be grateful that this game that you love has become so much more, instead of focusing solely on the fact that you are inconvenienced. Change is hard people and sacrifices have to be made but it's worth it!
DJINN Kujo Dirt Nap Squad. 1180	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:03:00 - [44] - Quote I agree with what a lot of people are saying here and on the forums in general. I have noticed several vets coming out to talk about their thoughts. I appreciate the responses everyone. Feel free to add me on PSN still if you guys want to play other games. PSN is ElectricBodily To answer a lot of what has been said; - I think they should move to the PC or something else in general, I think I can speak for most of the community when I say, it would be way better on a next gen console or PC - Obviously, a lot of us are hard console gamers, some mentioned they do not play PC games, I am in the same boat, I have grown up on a gaming console, never was the one to game on a PC unlike my father - There is a huge difference between PC gamers and console gamers, although rewards are similar, our mindsets are extremely varied - I hope to see a lot of people elsewhere, for those of you who stay, best of luck Everyone in AE. knows my favorite quote, which SteelDark posted - fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me I think that quote is extremely viable to the situation Only thing I am waiting for is for FanFest to be over, and see if CCP actually announced anything for the longevity of this game besides a simple Project Legion escapade Currently I am playing league of legends on my Mac, although I did say I do not play PC games. But this is a game my computer can support effectively and is free despite the micro transactions. Other than that, expect me on Destiny as I have always been a Bungie fanatic. If you play LoL, my username is; LickMyMudPump - lol I will be changing that name soon, lol. I rarely play PC games and did not think I would like it but I have grown to love it. See you all on the other side. >One benefit of being poor is that it doesn't take much to improve the situation Fact: *Brokest CEO in Dust*
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 716	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:13:00 - [45] - Quote "Cmon, Flounder, you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes. You ****** up. You trusted us. Make the best of it."
DJINN Kujo Dirt Nap Squad. 1189	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:28:00 - [46] - Quote bump >One benefit of being poor is that it doesn't take much to improve the situation Fact: *Brokest CEO in Dust*
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 597	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:28:00 - [47] - Quote DJINN Kujo wrote: bump Game is doomed. CCP has lied and refuse to take blame. Game is over. ffs.
DJINN Kujo Dirt Nap Squad. 1190	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:39:00 - [48] - Quote SoTa where can I see your beautiful self again? >One benefit of being poor is that it doesn't take much to improve the situation Fact: *Brokest CEO in Dust*
tastzlike chicken ROGUE SPADES 209	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:47:00 - [49] - Quote I am genuinely perplexed by how poorly this was handled by CCP. Given their resources and experience with community interactions ( for >10 years with EVE -which should have been the only lesson needed). To Fail this badly at communication?! It sends a very loud message in a very arrogant tone: CCP does not care about their player base, though they do care about their $$. The only alternate explanation lends itself more to discussions of psychiatric diagnoses.... <--baffled on so many levels *Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur*
Canari Elphus Dirt Nap Squad. 1611	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:49:00 - [50] - Quote It's been a honor and a pleasure playing with you J. .o7 PSN - ShallowGravez - Destiny here we come...

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14620	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:50:00 - [51] - Quote DJINN Kujo wrote: I admire your determination to strive forward and make something out of Dust 514. After todays Keynote, you have indeed justified the thought of, for the last two years, you have had console players beta testing a PC game designed for EVE players exclusively. I know you guys read the forums, a lot of players feel abandoned by this call of Project Legion. Again, I completely understand your motivation to make this game something. But by practically telling the current Dust community, that you are giving up on the console scene is a PR move that can not be justified. The foreseen future of this game is in your hands now, it was never a game designed by the community which is something you guys cherished your proclamations in. There has been fixes due to sparked interests in the community, do not get me wrong on that aspect. The current forums are filled with rage and anger for what everyone was excited for. We had no idea what we were excited for except to get to hear some new development about Dust which we were quickly silenced in confusion. You asked for feedback via your Twitch stream, this is my feedback. Probably something you did not want to hear, but I am truly being honest when I am saying, you are making a huge mistake with current events, and I do hope that there is something in those brains that will keep us enticed. You also mention that we may not be able to transfer characters from another thread, if that is true, that is even yet another reason people would quit. I will not say everyone will leave, but me personally being the CEO of a corporation that holds the most veterans in this game, I can exclusively say you have put a foul taste in our mouth. I really hope a DEV responds to this, to at least show the community you want to care. Sorry for all the negativity, again, I am just being honest and hope you would understand why. Leaving your console players behind is cutting your resources easily in half if not more. Dust needs to go competitive for it to stride to even bigger heights than anybody would imagine. It can be done on PC, sure. Publicity sake, Dust would be a revolution for FPS games on a console. It would be the new Halo so to speak. This is most likely my farewell though - I look forward to community responses to see where thoughts are held currently. Thank you for rationality. Bookmarking. And sorry to see you go. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4266	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:53:00 - [52] - Quote Oh well. Community been like the Xbox Live gaming community with a little less on the racial slurs. You guys said this game was dying and cursed it and the developers for so long. Now everybody is crying. Even folks who weren't involved with forums are now talking. WTF? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1607	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:55:00 - [53] - Quote they're killing a game with a growing playerbase. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1607	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:57:00 - [54] - Quote tastzlike chicken wrote: I am genuinely perplexed by how poorly this was handled by CCP. Given their resources and experience with community interactions ( for >10 years with EVE -which should have been the only lesson needed). To Fail this badly at communication?! It sends a very loud message in a very arrogant tone: CCP does not care about their player base, though they do care about their $$. The only alternate explanation lends itself more to discussions of psychiatric diagnoses.... <--baffled on so many levels they'll advertise games behind their veil of 'we build games that last ten years' and then those games will receive 10 months of design post launch. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.


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