wrote a very nice post

you know whats sad? our corp just turned 1 years old today and we thought our corp would live on forever, now we know that our corp will most likely not even reach 2 years old

Kujo you are mostly right. Now they won't justify publicly but main reason is for money's sake.


I posted a thread with this 3 days before this Dust keynote and hit it spot on.
On a business perspective it is unwise to pour resources into a game that they were seeing little return from since our player base was so low.

The NPE for this game is complete garbage and was non-salvageable for the resources CCP has set.
No reason to spend alot of money for the sake of ~1000 consistent aurum buyers.
Only way to fix the NPE easily......is a fresh start. They've learned from their dust 514 project.

Even it they do find a way to transfer characters, whats going to happen? The NPE is going to be crushed again and their marketing strategy for Legion will fail.


MY BEST ADVICE: This is not the first game that most of you (community) have dumped coutless hours into before moving on to your next gaming interest.

I've played almost every call of duty and from game to game you lose all your ranking and gun progressions. The sooner you can treat your money losses on this game as an "entertainment fee" the easier you will move on with your life.

If anything, you helped support what will be the game we always wanted and, for some, will never have.



From previous post 3 days ago:
"I could see from a marketing standpoint that it (Legion) will be stand alone from Dust, meaning a fresh start from scratch.

Dust 514 I feel was an experiment to hype the EVE universe which is their main source of income.
In turn, did not turn up the best way possible and had only like a 1% retention of players whom created accounts.


Most FPS vets don't want to come in at a HUGE disadvantage (SP) when their normal routine for a FPS is to excel from the start.


So in the effort of having much greater population:

Would you play and level a merc ALL OVER AGIAN if by then the game was worked on and made better?"

I understand people's rage. I started playing (and paying for) DUST because it promised a "Sandbox shooter". A promise it has consistently failed to achieve, and I've felt rage at this betrayal. I stopped spending money when I realized DUST 514 would not be able to fulfill that vision, Legion feels like a return to the original idea, but considering the state of your first promise of a sandbox shooter, why should I believe you when you say Project Legion will fulfill that vision? If DUST is your evidence, why are you creating a "different project, with different development tracks"? This I think, is the core of player's complaints/tears/rage/concerns, and this is the elephant in the room that you need to clearly address with your players.

I wholeheartedly agree, but from a legal perspective, CCP owes you nothing as long as they say they are supporting Dust 514 on PS3.


I do hope they compensate old dust players, who continue on to Legion, somehow.

I admire your determination to strive forward and make something out of Dust 514. After todays Keynote, you have indeed justified the thought of, *for the last two years, you have had console players beta testing a PC game designed for EVE players exclusively.*

I know you guys read the forums, a lot of players feel abandoned by this call of Project Legion. Again, I completely understand your motivation to make this game something. But by practically telling the current Dust community, that you are giving up on the console scene is a PR move that can not be justified.

The foreseen future of this game is in your hands now, it was never a game designed by the community which is something you guys cherished your proclamations in. There has been fixes due to sparked interests in the community, do not get me wrong on that aspect.

The current forums are filled with rage and anger for what everyone was excited for. We had no idea what we were excited for except to get to hear some new development about Dust which we were quickly silenced in confusion.

You asked for feedback via your Twitch stream, this is my feedback.

Probably something you did not want to hear, but I am truly being honest when I am saying, you are making a huge mistake with current events, and I do hope that there is something in those brains that will keep us enticed.

You also mention that we may not be able to transfer characters from another thread, if that is true, that is even yet another reason people would quit. I will not say everyone will leave, but me personally being the CEO of a corporation that holds the most veterans in this game, I can exclusively say you have put a foul taste in our mouth.

I really hope a DEV responds to this, to at least show the community you want to care.

Sorry for all the negativity, again, I am just being honest and hope you would understand why.

Leaving your console players behind is cutting your resources easily in half if not more. Dust needs to go competitive for it to stride to even bigger heights than anybody would imagine. It can be done on PC, sure. Publicity sake, Dust would be a revolution for FPS games on a console. It would be the new Halo so to speak.

This is most likely my farewell though - I look forward to community responses to see where thoughts are held currently.

If I can get a confirmation right now that Dust will not come to PS4, then I will spend the subsequent 24hrs plucking up the courage to post an image of my biomassed characters.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html

Half-way down the page....

"Decker didn't specify how long CCP would continue to support Dust 514 for, and confirmed it would remain only on PS3 despite talk of possible long-term next-gen support at EVE Fanfest last year."

Well said, Kujo.

I'd summarize my feelings like this:

It takes a long time to build trust in a company/brand/game, and only an instant to destroy it.

I hope it's simply emotion speaking -- and I don't regret the time or money I've invested in Dust/CCP -- but I doubt I will ever give CCP the opportunity to burn me a second time.

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I admire your determination to strive forward and make something out of Dust 514. After todays Keynote, you have indeed justified the thought of, *for the last two years, you have had console players beta testing a PC game designed for EVE players exclusively.*

I know you guys read the forums, a lot of players feel abandoned by this call of Project Legion. Again, I completely understand your motivation to make this game something. But by practically telling the current Dust community, that you are giving up on the console scene is a PR move that can not be justified.

The foreseen future of this game is in your hands now, it was never a game designed by the community which is something you guys cherished your proclamations in. There has been fixes due to sparked interests in the community, do not get me wrong on that aspect.

The current forums are filled with rage and anger for what everyone was excited for. We had no idea what we were excited for except to get to hear some new development about Dust which we were quickly silenced in confusion.

You asked for feedback via your Twitch stream, this is my feedback.

Probably something you did not want to hear, but I am truly being honest when I am saying, you are making a huge mistake with current events, and I do hope that there is something in those brains that will keep us enticed.

You also mention that we may not be able to transfer characters from another thread, if that is true, that is even yet another reason people would quit. I will not say everyone will leave, but me personally being the CEO of a corporation that holds the most veterans in this game, I can exclusively say you have put a foul taste in our mouth.

I really hope a DEV responds to this, to at least show the community you want to care.

Sorry for all the negativity, again, I am just being honest and hope you would understand why.

Leaving your console players behind is cutting your resources easily in half if not more. Dust needs to go competitive for it to stride to even bigger heights than anybody would imagine. It can be done on PC, sure. Publicity sake, Dust would be a revolution for FPS games on a console. It would be the new Halo so to speak.

This is most likely my farewell though - I look forward to community responses to see where thoughts are held currently.

I am genuinely perplexed by how poorly this was handled by CCP.

Given their resources and experience with community interactions ( for >10 years with EVE -which should have been the only lesson needed). To Fail this badly at communication?!

It sends a very loud message in a very arrogant tone: CCP does not care about their player base, though they do care about their $$. The only alternate explanation lends itself more to discussions of psychiatric diagnoses....

<--baffled on so many levels