DUST Search - The Biggest Mistake CCP Made...

Maken Tosch wrote:

JIMvc2 wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

...is the fact that the Dust Keynote for Fanfest 2014 was exceedingly short. No new info about Dust on the PS3 so far, just a live demo of a PC version, and nothing more.

The audience wasn't even given an idea on what or when to expect for changes to the PS3 version. As a result, people are (without evidence) jumping to conclusions that Dust on the PS3 is dead or something like that. Honestly CCP still had a good 20 minutes left on the clock to address those points but missed out on it. If they had done just that, we wouldn't be having this crap storm on the forums right now.

But let's not forget that there is still one more Dust Keynote to come although I think that supposedly covers the graphics portion of Dust.

There is still tomorrow. Although as of right now Im kinda :|

Why would CCP present Leagion in a Dust keynote = ?????

That is a very good question which why I think they missed their chance to address it in the final 20 minutes of the 1 hour keynote they had. The first keynote just ended in 40 minutes with nothing more than a live demo. This is confusing.

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Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8220	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:56:00 - [1] - Quote ...is the fact that the Dust Keynote for Fanfest 2014 was exceedingly short. No new info about Dust on the PS3 so far, just a live demo of a PC version, and nothing more. The audience wasn't even given an idea on what or when to expect for changes to the PS3 version. As a result, people are (without evidence) jumping to conclusions that Dust on the PS3 is dead or something like that. Honestly CCP still had a good 20 minutes left on the clock to address those points but missed out on it. If they had done just that, we wouldn't be having this crap storm on the forums right now. But let's not forget that there is still one more Dust Keynote to come although I think that supposedly covers the graphics portion of Dust. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 507	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:01:00 - [2] - Quote they killed it
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 382	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:02:00 - [3] - Quote Tosch please post a Miku vid to lift my spirits. ;~; >CCP Saberwing: "NERF EVERYTHING!!!" *THE-TITANS* Director and the one-and-only Mr. Contradiction
Loki Patera xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 119	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:02:00 - [4] - Quote It was short because they clearly haven't done anything for PS3 - no vehicles, heavy weapons - forget it RIP Dust - biggest waste of time. Open Beta vet - in it for the long haul
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1351	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:02:00 - [5] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: they killed it Yup. Silly CCP. "We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 203	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:03:00 - [6] - Quote It'll just be a graphics Presentation... Not another Keynote. You're right they missed their opportunity.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2032	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:05:00 - [7] - Quote Can I have some isk, please?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8222	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:06:00 - [8] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Can I have some isk, please? I'm not leaving. Where did I say I was leaving? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 507	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:06:00 - [9] - Quote i cant fkn belive they would choose to work on a pc port over the NPE and PVE stuff we have been harping about for the fukin past 6 months
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8222	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:07:00 - [10] - Quote Loki Patera wrote: It was short because they clearly haven't done anything for PS3 - no vehicles, heavy weapons - forget it RIP Dust - biggest waste of time. Evidence please or shut the frakk up. They never said in the keynote or on any Dev Blog that they did nothing for the PS3 version. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor

Jimbo Boilstaff THE MASSIVE DYNAMIC 118	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:07:00 - [11] - Quote Was anyone in the audience there just for DUST related stuff at fanfest??? Poor bastards
Jimbo Boilstaff THE MASSIVE DYNAMIC 118	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:08:00 - [12] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: i cant fkn belive they would choose to work on a pc port over the NPE and PVE stuff we have been harping about for the fukin past 6 months they've made the PvE stuff FOR the PC version lol,,,, and the player market!!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8222	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:08:00 - [13] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: i cant fkn belive they would choose to work on a pc port over the NPE and PVE stuff we have been harping about for the fukin past 6 months The staff that was working on the Legion project was extremely small. There were like what 6 people working on it? Compared to how many still working on the PS3 version? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 330	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:10:00 - [14] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: ...is the fact that the Dust Keynote for Fanfest 2014 was exceedingly short. No new info about Dust on the PS3 so far, just a live demo of a PC version, and nothing more. The audience wasn't even given an idea on what or when to expect for changes to the PS3 version. As a result, people are (without evidence) jumping to conclusions that Dust on the PS3 is dead or something like that. Honestly CCP still had a good 20 minutes left on the clock to address those points but missed out on it. If they had done just that, we wouldn't be having this crap storm on the forums right now. But let's not forget that there is still one more Dust Keynote to come although I think that supposedly covers the graphics portion of Dust. There will be no changes for ps3 because it will no longer be on ps3 eventually they just don't wanna say it so they keep bring in our cash We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 393	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:10:00 - [15] - Quote OP What is your aim here? Time and again this company (with respect to Dust) shows that they dont have a clue, lack the ability or just dont care about doing the right thing for the player base. Yes, many here QQ over many things but most of the issues outside of nerf/buff are warranted and CCP puts themselves in these situations. They are to blame. I dont see why people on here always try to come to their defence with weak apologies or some statement about their track record when time and again they have proven they dont deserve being given the benefit. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1393	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:10:00 - [16] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: ...is the fact that the Dust Keynote for Fanfest 2014 was exceedingly short. No new info about Dust on the PS3 so far, just a live demo of a PC version, and nothing more. The audience wasn't even given an idea on what or when to expect for changes to the PS3 version. As a result, people are (without evidence) jumping to conclusions that Dust on the PS3 is dead or something like that. Honestly CCP still had a good 20 minutes left on the clock to address those points but missed out on it. If they had done just that, we wouldn't be having this crap storm on the forums right now. But let's not forget that there is still one more Dust Keynote to come although I think that supposedly covers the graphics portion of Dust. I think you missed the dev blog which is saying they are splitting the team to continue the support for dust but focus on EVE Legion to make the game they really wanted. the basically said dust is dead. have fun with dust updates every 6 months.
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 513	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:11:00 - [17] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: i cant fkn belive they would choose to work on a pc port over the NPE and PVE stuff we have been harping about for the fukin past 6 months The staff that was working on the Legion project was extremely small. There were like what 6 people working on it? Compared to how many still working on the PS3 version? 6 devs should be able to make a few missions every couple months ona seperate note minecraft and star made were developed by 1-3 people so 6 people should have no trouble with a few pve missions
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8223	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:13:00 - [18] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: ...is the fact that the Dust Keynote for Fanfest 2014 was exceedingly short. No new info about Dust on the PS3 so far, just a live demo of a PC version, and nothing more. The audience wasn't even given an idea on what or when to expect for changes to the PS3 version. As a result, people are (without evidence) jumping to conclusions that Dust on the PS3 is dead or something like that. Honestly CCP still had a good 20 minutes left on the clock to address those points but missed out on it. If they had done just that, we wouldn't be having this crap storm on the forums right now. But let's not forget that there is still one more Dust Keynote to come although I think that supposedly covers the graphics portion of Dust. I think you missed the dev blog which is saying they are splitting the team to continue the support for dust but focus on EVE Legion to make the game they really wanted. the basically said dust is dead. have fun with dust updates every 6 months. I didn't miss the blog. It still left a ton of question unanswered that they should've addressed in the last 20 minutes of the 1 hour they had for presenting. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Nazz'Dragg planetary retaliation organisation ACME Holding Conglomerate 27	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:24:00 - [19] - Quote DUST progression looks promising. \ [Gòª] / Praise . . I . . The .. / \ .. Sun
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8224	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:36:00 - [20] - Quote Nazz'Dragg wrote: DUST progression looks promising. Maybe for the PC, but they didn't show anything about Dust on the PS3. Not even a screenshot of what they did for the PS3 version. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor

Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death Final Resolution. 3250	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:37:00 - [21] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Loki Patera wrote: It was short because they clearly haven't done anything for PS3 - no vehicles, heavy weapons - forget it RIP Dust - biggest waste of time. Evidence please or shut the frakk up. They never said in the keynote or on any Dev Blog that they did nothing for the PS3 version. The DUST keynote had no DUST content. I'd say that's a glaring indicator. EDIT: Oh and right there: "most of it's Legion".
XxGhazbaranxX The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V. 1274	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:37:00 - [22] - Quote Jimbo Boilstaff wrote: Was anyone in the audience there just for DUST related stuff at fanfest??? Poor bastards This. Plasma Cannon Advocate Heavy event survivor
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3591	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:39:00 - [23] - Quote Its all about legion now No more dust
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8225	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:46:00 - [24] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Loki Patera wrote: It was short because they clearly haven't done anything for PS3 - no vehicles, heavy weapons - forget it RIP Dust - biggest waste of time. Evidence please or shut the frakk up. They never said in the keynote or on any Dev Blog that they did nothing for the PS3 version. The DUST keynote had no DUST content. I'd say that's a glaring indicator. EDIT: Oh and right there: "most of it's Legion". They didn't say that they didn't do anything for Dust 514 on the PS3. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8225	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:48:00 - [25] - Quote Wow, I'm still watching the live stream and so far that dev with the nappy hair seems to be choking up. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8226	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:50:00 - [26] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: Tosch please post a Miku vid to lift my spirits. ;~; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPviNVWzVFI&feature=share&list=PLA19164DFA1080FBB&index=115 Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 114	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:52:00 - [27] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: ...is the fact that the Dust Keynote for Fanfest 2014 was exceedingly short. No new info about Dust on the PS3 so far, just a live demo of a PC version, and nothing more. The audience wasn't even given an idea on what or when to expect for changes to the PS3 version. As a result, people are (without evidence) jumping to conclusions that Dust on the PS3 is dead or something like that. Honestly CCP still had a good 20 minutes left on the clock to address those points but missed out on it. If they had done just that, we wouldn't be having this crap storm on the forums right now. But let's not forget that there is still one more Dust Keynote to come although I think that supposedly covers the graphics portion of Dust. There is still tomorrow. Although as of right now Im kinda :\| Why would CCP present Leagion in a Dust keynote = ????? If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1218	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:52:00 - [28] - Quote What is up with being laser focused on Legion? I thought they were laser focused on Dust on PS3... Looking for the scout hangout?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8226	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:54:00 - [29] - Quote OK, now they're doing the regular talk between keynotes. I'm surprised one of the devs mentioned that they don't have a procedure in place for the character stats transfer. Doesn't CCP have our stats on their server? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8226	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:56:00 - [30] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: ...is the fact that the Dust Keynote for Fanfest 2014 was exceedingly short. No new info about Dust on the PS3 so far, just a live demo of a PC version, and nothing more. The audience wasn't even given an idea on what or when to expect for changes to the PS3 version. As a result, people are (without evidence) jumping to conclusions that Dust on the PS3 is dead or something like that. Honestly CCP still had a good 20 minutes left on the clock to address those points but missed out on it. If they had done just that, we wouldn't be having this crap storm on the forums right now. But let's not forget that there is still one more Dust Keynote to come although I think that supposedly covers the graphics portion of Dust. There is still tomorrow. Although as of right now Im kinda :\| Why would CCP present Leagion in a Dust keynote = ????? That is a very good question which why I think they missed their chance to address it in the final 20 minutes of the 1 hour keynote they had. The first keynote just ended in 40 minutes with nothing more than a live demo. This is confusing. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor

Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death Final Resolution. 3264	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:59:00 - [31] - Quote GÇÅ@GimbleB 2m A CCP employee just said "former Dust 514" on stream. What a complete train wreck.
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 114	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:06:00 - [32] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: JIMvc2 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: ...is the fact that the Dust Keynote for Fanfest 2014 was exceedingly short. No new info about Dust on the PS3 so far, just a live demo of a PC version, and nothing more. The audience wasn't even given an idea on what or when to expect for changes to the PS3 version. As a result, people are (without evidence) jumping to conclusions that Dust on the PS3 is dead or something like that. Honestly CCP still had a good 20 minutes left on the clock to address those points but missed out on it. If they had done just that, we wouldn't be having this crap storm on the forums right now. But let's not forget that there is still one more Dust Keynote to come although I think that supposedly covers the graphics portion of Dust. There is still tomorrow. Although as of right now Im kinda :\| Why would CCP present Leagion in a Dust keynote = ????? That is a very good question which why I think they missed their chance to address it in the final 20 minutes of the 1 hour keynote they had. The first keynote just ended in 40 minutes with nothing more than a live demo. This is confusing. I was watching a video of Fanfest 2012. They sad PVE, Drones, MTACS, more Gas, Ice, Lava ect.. maps is A Expansion of 2013 = wtf now we are 2014 and we have none of that = Im super pissed. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8227	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:17:00 - [33] - Quote /dons the tinfoil hat I'm theorycrafting that maybe this is all just a major distraction setup by CCP and that on the last Dust keynote they will reveal that Dust on the PS3 has been completely overhauled and finally finished with PvE, Economy, MMO aspect and all that jazz. But then a part of me screamed at me saying "NO! YOU MUST KEEP YOUR EXPECTATIONS AS UNREALISTICALLY LOW AS POSSIBLE!" /takes off tinfoil hat Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1501	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:18:00 - [34] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: ...is the fact that the Dust Keynote for Fanfest 2014 was exceedingly short. No new info about Dust on the PS3 so far, just a live demo of a PC version, and nothing more. The audience wasn't even given an idea on what or when to expect for changes to the PS3 version. As a result, people are (without evidence) jumping to conclusions that Dust on the PS3 is dead or something like that. Honestly CCP still had a good 20 minutes left on the clock to address those points but missed out on it. If they had done just that, we wouldn't be having this crap storm on the forums right now. But let's not forget that there is still one more Dust Keynote to come although I think that supposedly covers the graphics portion of Dust. dust is dead, friend. they didn't give us a 'future vision' in the dust keynote because there isn't a 'future vision' for dust. oh, and did i mention that your character is dead too? yeah, you can't take you character over to legion, so... eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1503	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:21:00 - [35] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: OK, now they're doing the regular talk between keynotes. I'm surprised one of the devs mentioned that they don't have a procedure in place for the character stats transfer. Doesn't CCP have our stats on their server? you don't have any stats in new eden anymore. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8229	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:22:00 - [36] - Quote low genius wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: OK, now they're doing the regular talk between keynotes. I'm surprised one of the devs mentioned that they don't have a procedure in place for the character stats transfer. Doesn't CCP have our stats on their server? you don't have any stats in new eden anymore. /troll radar going off Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 817	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:25:00 - [37] - Quote Apparently not only does CCP need a development process overhaul, they need a new PR service. This lack of purpose and direction on their part is going to eat them alive and they deserve this kind of feedback. This skirting completely over the issue, avoiding all questions and keeping to their mystery sandbox shows they have no idea the direction they expected this to go and if that was the case, you shouldn't have brought it to fanfest unprepared. Now you just look unorganized and distrustful. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8229	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:29:00 - [38] - Quote lee corwood wrote: Apparently not only does CCP need a development process overhaul, they need a new PR service. This lack of purpose and direction on their part is going to eat them alive and they deserve this kind of feedback. This skirting completely over the issue, avoiding all questions and keeping to their mystery sandbox shows they have no idea the direction they expected this to go and if that was the case, you shouldn't have brought it to fanfest unprepared. Now you just look unorganized and distrustful. I agree this is really disorganized for a Dust presentation. So far, Eve Online and Eve Valkyrie have gotten a lot of attention while there is no mention of Dust on the PS3 and what the progress will be. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor


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