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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:48:00 -
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Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of.
I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3?
Proposed Mobile CRU Changes
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad.
859
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3?
This just raises even MORE questions.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
794
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:51:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3? It means they are moving DUST514 to a life-support position, and it will never get anywhere near what we were all here to see. For those wanting to see that thing, go buy/use a PC and migrate off of DUST514.
Team Fairy DUST
HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
7592
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:51:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote: This just raises even MORE questions.
But, it means DUST 514 is staying on the PS3.
So we technically aren't playing a dying game.
Proposed Mobile CRU Changes
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Vapor Forseti
THE-TITANS
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3? So, what they showed us at the stream... we don't ever get on PS3?
I am confused.
>CCP Saberwing: "NERF EVERYTHING!!!"
THE-TITANS Director and the one-and-only Mr. Contradiction
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Joseph Ridgeson
warravens Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:54:00 -
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Perhaps this is why they shouldn't have had a 25 minute keynote that was 15 minutes late that has a huge change for our game.
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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Ridire Greine
442
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:55:00 -
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The only thing that will happen with DUST is a few balance changes here and there, don't expect any big content updates like we had with 1.8.
Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death Final Resolution.
3202
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Tebu Gan wrote: This just raises even MORE questions.
But, it means DUST 514 is staying on the PS3. So we technically aren't playing a dying game.
**** off we're not.
FUCK YOU TOO CCP
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Jimbo Boilstaff
THE MASSIVE DYNAMIC
108
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:56:00 -
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The PC version of DUST is rebranded under a different name....
This means they can leave DUST514 in the state it's in on the PS3 and take the cash off whoever cares,,, while developing a superior game on the PC where all the effort will go....
THE CHANGE OF NAME is the troubling thing here,,, suggests IP protection and the wind-down of certain abilities. |
martinofski
Onsencaliss
330
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:57:00 -
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Look to me they wont kill dust just yet, but won't improve it anymore.
Let's wait more details I guess |
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
630
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3?
No it means their team which was already little is now divided into TWO, Twicem ore slower progress into Ps3 dev, and finally no more server for Dust 514. |
Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
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Posted - 2014.05.02 13:57:00 -
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So it'll be the bastard child of their Legion PC game which was obviously made to cater to the EVE crowd. Face it Atiim, CCP just gave you, me, and everyone else the finger.
=^,.,^=
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
241
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3?
They're going to milk gullible PS3 players for as long as they can to feed Legion development.
Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast.
Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1344
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:08:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3?
Nobody knows because the forgot to mention it when they showed thier slightly upgraded PC tech demo.
They really missed an opportunity here.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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Alex-P-Keaton Kramer
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
168
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Tebu Gan wrote: This just raises even MORE questions.
But, it means DUST 514 is staying on the PS3. So we technically aren't playing a dying game.
we've been pretty much playin a dying game before this news, but there was always a slight glimmer of hope it could be slightly better, now with this news we've past the point where the brain was deprived of oxygen for too long and there is no hope, dust will remain in a persistant vegatative state
i like to go to craigslist and look at the personal ad's transexuals put up
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1751
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:12:00 -
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PS4 will probably get Dust Legion. Xbox will probably get Legion as well. lol same Dust community, same ole time.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
http://royventus.tumblr.com
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medomai grey
warravens Final Resolution.
658
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:12:00 -
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First, I'm happy that Dust514 is finally getting ported to PC as Legion. Not to sure why all these Soney loyalist are behaving like Dust514 is dead.
Majority of people own PCs, the same cannot be said for game consoles. This means a much wider audience and potentially bigger player base.
Less development restriction from requiring a third party(Soney)'s approval for every patch and update. And yes, this is really a thing. There's a reason why Warframe on PS4 is lagging behind Warframe on PC. With the removal of third party approvals, CCP can update and patch in a timely manner.
That is not to say that I don't have my concerns. Will Dust514 progress(SP,ISK,AU) transfer over to Legion? Will Legion have a different business model? How will Legion handle hacks like aim-bot? etc.
The Dust514 keynotes was very exiting, but left us with more questions than answers.
Oh, and TREES. XD
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French Red Whines.
633
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:14:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:First, I'm happy that Dust514 is finally getting ported to PC as Legion. Not to sure why all these Soney loyalist are behaving like Dust514 is dead.
Majority of people own PCs, the same cannot be said for game consoles. This means a much wider audience and potentially bigger player base.
Less development restriction from requiring a third party(Soney)'s approval for every patch and update. And yes, this is really a thing. There's a reason why Warframe on PS4 is lagging behind Warframe on PC. With the removal of third party approvals, CCP can update and patch in a timely manner.
That is not to say that I don't have my concerns. Will Dust514 progress(SP,ISK,AU) transfer over to Legion? Will Legion have a different business model? How will Legion handle hacks like aim-bot? etc.
The Dust514 keynotes was very exiting, but left us with more questions than answers.
Oh, and TREES. XD
No we don't have Gamer PC. We don't like to play mouse + keyboard. We don't like the bunch of hackers with unlimited SP and ISK And finally do you think CCP can fight hackers on a F2P ? So it's "hackers" or you "pay". |
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
803
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:14:00 -
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When Zipper was canned by Sony, they left the MAG servers up because the work was already done and you might as well milk it for all its worth. That's what Dust will end up being. You have no more development costs, no nothing. You move everyone to Legion work and make money from some fool thinking this game will get better.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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Joey-Number1
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
92
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:14:00 -
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The Dust on PS3 really even can't improve much anymore except adding same kind of range of things, but not really a scale of things, complexity, delicate detail and all the depth that EVE Universe can offer, also that some players doesn't understand.(mainly console players)
Minmatar Logistics since the beginning.
Mass Driver my first and the only fully specialized weapon.
Explorer.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:15:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3?
It will die with PS3 they mean
We are beta testers for another game on another platform which a far few will never touch because they dont want to game on PC |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:15:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3?
It means that Dust 514 stays the ****** lobby shooter on PS3 while Eve: Legion maybe becomes the game they promised us. Dust staying on PS3 is to satisfy whatever with Sony. PC and PS4 port I would have been cool with, PC and PS3. 2 separate games? Nah screw you CCP
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
601
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:16:00 -
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^^^This
The future of DUST514: There will be trees.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
1012
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:16:00 -
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so what actually happened/ was said to make everybody go nuts?
Nemo me impune lacessit
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
520
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:16:00 -
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I swear you guys must never actually play pc games because while there are hackers, after an initial period hackers are long but gone. Punkbuster, evenbalance other things all help prevent against hackers.
BF4 for instance had a ton of hackers at its launch, since I bought that game in feb of this year I have not encounter a single hacker in any game. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:17:00 -
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if dust and legion are produced independent of each other that is the worst case scenario it means dust is a limbo game and legion will always be the superior option.
I would just quit dust at that point their would be no point in playing it at that point.
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Meknow Intaki
152
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3?
Who cares!! It's over=ƒÿ¿
DUST. Is. DEAD. |
Heavenly Daughter
the Aurum Grinder and Company
460
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:18:00 -
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Vapor Forseti wrote:Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3? So, what they showed us at the stream... we don't ever get on PS3? I am confused.
90% development will be focused on PC, not the PS3 so it's going nowhere. !
The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE
Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
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SteelDark Knight
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
371
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:19:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:When Zipper was canned by Sony, they left the MAG servers up because the work was already done and you might as well milk it for all its worth. That's what Dust will end up being. You have no more development costs, no nothing. You move everyone to Legion work and make money from some fool thinking this game will get better.
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Jimbo Boilstaff
THE MASSIVE DYNAMIC
124
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:19:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:if dust and legion are produced independent of each other that is the worst case scenario it means dust is a limbo game and legion will always be the superior option.
I would just quit dust at that point their would be no point in playing it at that point.
Thats exactly what theyre saying will happen
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150763/meet-project-legion-the-epic-new-first-person-pc-shooter-from-eve-onlines-creators.html |
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Zalifer Nakamoda
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
82
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Posted - 2014.05.02 14:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3?
I just got quoted from outside the forums :D
Everyone needs to chill for a while though. I'm not sure Legion will provide the gameplay that DUST does right now, and I believe it may not be totally different. Smart move would be allowing you to do Faction Warfare and PC in DUST and other game modes in Legion at first, but using the same character and inventory.
Chill for now dudes, 1500 EVE time is the next DUST presentation, so lets just wait and see what more they have to say. |
medomai grey
warravens Final Resolution.
659
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:35:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:medomai grey wrote:First, I'm happy that Dust514 is finally getting ported to PC as Legion. Not to sure why all these Soney loyalist are behaving like Dust514 is dead.
Majority of people own PCs, the same cannot be said for game consoles. This means a much wider audience and potentially bigger player base.
Less development restriction from requiring a third party(Soney)'s approval for every patch and update. And yes, this is really a thing. There's a reason why Warframe on PS4 is lagging behind Warframe on PC. With the removal of third party approvals, CCP can update and patch in a timely manner.
That is not to say that I don't have my concerns. Will Dust514 progress(SP,ISK,AU) transfer over to Legion? Will Legion have a different business model? How will Legion handle hacks like aim-bot? etc.
The Dust514 keynotes was very exiting, but left us with more questions than answers.
Oh, and TREES. XD No we don't have Gamer PC. We don't like to play mouse + keyboard. We don't like the bunch of hackers with unlimited SP and ISK And finally do you think CCP can fight hackers on a F2P ? So it's "hackers" or you "pay". You're willing to drop $500-400 for a PS4 that's good for one thing and that will be replaced in a few years with PS5 but not $1,500-450 that can do the same thing and so much more? Also we don't even know the minimum requirements for Legion yet. You may not even need to get a new computer.
If you don't like mouse and keyboard, plug in a controller. I personally prefer the Playstation style of controller for gaming. Don't know how some of you can use the X-box ones and claim that's more comfortable to use.
Do I think that CCP can fight hackers on a F2P? First learn to read. I clearly state that I don't know if CCP can deal with hackers. Hell, we don't even know if they'll stick the same business model, F2P.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
610
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:39:00 -
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Jimbo Boilstaff wrote:The PC version of DUST is rebranded under a different name....
This means they can leave DUST514 in the state it's in on the PS3 and take the cash off whoever cares,,, while developing a superior game on the PC where all the effort will go....
THE CHANGE OF NAME is the troubling thing here,,, suggests IP protection and the wind-down of certain abilities.
I'm sure the name change was because the name dust514 carries with it bad reviews from every major reviewer
'#PCMasterRace
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NAV HIV
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
1747
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:41:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3?
With a 100% of chance of dying like MAG... This is MAG2 in a way/// |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
310
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:43:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Atiim wrote:Zalifer wrote:Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. I guess that means DUST is staying on PS3? This just raises even MORE questions.
It means they didn't want to show their hand, and the inevitable end of DUST, in the same day they announced DUST 2.0 at Fanfest. |
Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
278
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Posted - 2014.05.02 19:49:00 -
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If you think splitting the player base between a FPS on PS3 and PC and making them two different games with no crossover and making the PC version everything we wanted in the PS3 version is still going keep the 5000 players that are currently playing on the PS3 you are an idiot.
You can't have 12 people devoted to making 2 different games at the same time, Legion is going to get the A team, Dust is going to slowly die. Hopefully, if enough people quit on principle and demand money back from CCP, it will cut funding for Legion so the PC boys won't get what they wanted either, not that I don't feel GREAT about being a beta tester for Legion for the last 7 months WHILE FUNDING it.
Make a man a fire and he will be warm for a night, set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life
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