vs. the way it is now, T1 basic frames, T2 advanced, and T3 proto.

cause that's way more complicated than either of the two options you just mentioned.

Give it up. Tiercide is a joke. It will be nice to see what CPM1 has in store.

vs. the way it is now, T1 basic frames, T2 advanced, and T3 proto.

cause that's way more complicated than either of the two options you just mentioned.

Give it up. Tiercide is a joke. It will be nice to see what CPM1 has in store.

vs. the way it is now, T1 basic frames, T2 advanced, and T3 proto.

cause that's way more complicated than either of the two options you just mentioned.

Give it up. Tiercide is a joke. It will be nice to see what CPM1 has in store.

vs. the way it is now, T1 basic frames, T2 advanced, and T3 proto.

cause that's way more complicated than either of the two options you just mentioned.

Give it up. Tiercide is a joke. It will be nice to see what CPM1 has in store.

On the basis of?

I've yet to see a valid argument against it.

thats not how tech levels work.

tech 1 is standard suits.
tech 2 is specialized: scout, assault, logi, commando, sentinel, and assault dropship.
tech 3 is customizable, there is no tech 3 currently.

if your gonna talk about tiericide you should at least understand what it is or how the current system works.

For the love of Christ, I was saying t1/2/3 as TIER 1, 2, and 3. Hang me already. Wow, nit pickers are out in full force tonight.

When you're eyes are shut, it's hard to see anything.

There is nothing wrong with "play more, get better loot" It's been the principal of all MMO's since forever.

This is an MMOFPS. It seems like just a regular FPS currently due to the lack of anything else to do.

Look at EVE. It took me nearly 4 or 5 months to get into a semi-decently fit Battleship. It takes a person who plays regularly about a month to get a prototype suit.

Two months will get you a proto suit, a proto weapon, and a couple core skills.

Tiercide is an unnecessary action. What we need is low sec and null sec to open up, and to add disincentives to running proto in high sec pub matches.

a good idea I heard was to base your war points earned from kills on the difference between total meta level of your gear. starting at 50, and adding or subtracting WP based on the difference (+/-) in meta level.

Tiercide is a joke. Heres a new idea. lets just remove dropsuits all together, and force everyone to just pick a roll at the creation screen, Heavy, Logi, Assault, or Scout. Then you get one suit of that type, and thats all anyone gets.

See, I can be irrational and exaggerate as well.

And people wonder why Dropsuit command stops unlocking things at 3 and we're not using advanced dropsuit command skill book yet.

Because of that; ALL suits are tech 1 and we;re missing actually two more levels of tech 1 suits each with basic advanced and prototype suits should the current model continue.

When you're eyes are shut, it's hard to see anything.

There is nothing wrong with "play more, get better loot" It's been the principal of all MMO's since forever.

This is an MMOFPS. It seems like just a regular FPS currently due to the lack of anything else to do.

Look at EVE. It took me nearly 4 or 5 months to get into a semi-decently fit Battleship. It takes a person who plays regularly about a month to get a prototype suit.

Two months will get you a proto suit, a proto weapon, and a couple core skills.

Tiercide is an unnecessary action. What we need is low sec and null sec to open up, and to add disincentives to running proto in high sec pub matches.

a good idea I heard was to base your war points earned from kills on the difference between total meta level of your gear. starting at 50, and adding or subtracting WP based on the difference (+/-) in meta level.

Tiercide is a joke. Heres a new idea. lets just remove dropsuits all together, and force everyone to just pick a roll at the creation screen, Heavy, Logi, Assault, or Scout. Then you get one suit of that type, and thats all anyone gets.

See, I can be irrational and exaggerate as well.

Yeah... I was tired last night and finally had enough SP to unlock weapon skill to level 5 for my main to work on HMG.... now I have level 5 drop suit command ...derp

Amarr Race :

Amarr Sentinel - Point Defnese Suit specializing in engaging multiple targets
Amarr Guardian - A mobile destruction platform
Amarr Commander - A Suit that enchances nearby squadmembers
Amarr Logistics - A suit that facilitates combat of teammates
Amarr Engineer - A suit that focuses on infrastucture support of combat
Amarr Technician - A suit that focuses on the well being of team assests
Amarr Recon - A suit specializing in black ops
Amarr Pilot - A suit that specializes in piloting vehicles
Amarr Scout - a suit that specializes in finding enemy intel.
Amarr Assault - A suit that specializes in bringing combat to the enemy
Amarr Striker - A suit that breaks enemey defensive lines.
Amarr Lancer - A suit that can intercept hostile foces and dispose of them
Amarr Breaker - A suit that specialises in vehicle destruction
Amarr Operative - A suit that specailizes in disabiling enemy defenses
Amarr Specialist - A suit that is particularly good in notihng but is able to be flexible.

fix your math IWS, but this is probably your best troll-for-seriousness yet!

I am sure we can get 20 lvl 5 skills in a row and get 100 tiers going.

I guess they might announce it in the keynote.
I was referring to the DUST 514: Progression panel later.

Which one there's two of em.?

Tiercide is fully supported by the overlord of all humans Cat Merc, who is supported by the overlord of taco and humans General John Ripper.

Everyone else is irrelevant.

Because the current system is well liked by some of our player base lets add more tiers to satisy thier needs. Starting with a quick review of all teirs we have so far.

Tier 1

Militia Caldari Medium Frame

Tier 2

State Basic Caldari Medium Frame C-1

Neo Basic Caldari Medium Frame C-1

Basic Caldari Medium Frame C-1

Tier 3

State Advanced Caldari Medium Frame C/1

Neo Advanced Caldari Medium Frame C/1

Advanced Caldari medium Frame C/1

Tier 4

State Prototype Caldari Medium Frame Ck. 0

Neo Prototype Caldari Medium Frame Ck. 0

Prototype Caldari medium Frame Ck. 0

Tier 5

Skinweave Militia Caldari Assault Suit

Tier 6

Dren Militia Caldari Assault Suit

Tier 7

Neo Caldari Assault Frame C-1

Navy Caldari Assault Frame C-1

Caldari Assault Suit C-1

Tier 8

Navy Advanced Caldari Assault Frame C/1

Neo Advanced Caldari Assault Frame C/1

Advanced Caldari Assault Frame C/1

Tier 9

Navy Prototype Caldari Assault Frame Ck.0

Neo Prototype Caldari Assault Frame Ck. 0

Prototype caldari Assault Frame Ck. 0

Now for our new tiers.

Dropsuit command 4

10x multiplier Skill

Assault Frames Mastery

Unlocks access to Master Assault Frames


Tier 10

State Caldari master Assault Frame

Neo Caldari Master Assault Frame

Caldari Master Assault Frame C-1

Tier 11

State Advanced Caldari Master Frame C/1 Series

Neo Advanced Caldari Master Assault Frame C/1 Series

Caldari Advanced Master Assault Frame C/1 Series

Tier 12

State Prototype Caldari Master Frame Ck. 0

Neo Prototype Caldari Master Assault Frame Ck. 0

Prototype Caldari Master Assault Frame Ck. 0

Advanced Dropsuit Command
Requires Dropsuit Command 5
Allows Access to Tech 2 Suits

Caldari Experimental Medium Frames x12 skill
Requires Caldari Mastery lvl 5
Allows Access to Striker Frames

Tier 13

State Caldari Experimental Medium Frame C-1

Neo Caldari Experimental Medium Frame C-1

Caldari Striker Experimental Medium Frame C-1

Tier 14

State Advanced Caldari Experimental Medium Frame C/1

Neo Advanced Caldari Experimental Medium Frame C/1

Advanced Caldari Experimental Medium Frame C/1

Tier 15

State Prototype Caldari Experimental Medium Frame Ck.0

Neo Prototype Caldari Experimental Frame Ck.0

Prototpye Caldari Experimental Frame Ck. 0

"Lancer Dropsuits x14 Skill
Requires Experimental Medium Frames to lvl 3

Tier 16

Navy Caldari Lancer Dropsuit C-1

Neo Caldari Lancer Dropsuit C-1

Caldari Lancer Dropsuit C-1

Tier 17

State Advanced Caldari Lancer Dropsuit C/1

Neo Advanced Caldari Lancer Dropsuit C/1

Advanced Caldari lancer Dropsuit C/1

Tier 18

State Prototype Caldari Lancer Dropsuit Ck. 0

Neo Prototype Caldari Lancer Dropsuit Ck. 0

Prototype Caldari Lancer Dropsuit Ck. 0

Tier 19

State Caldari Tactical Medium Frame C-X

Neo Caldari Tactical Medium FrameC-X

Caldari Tactical Medium Frame C-X

Tier 20

State Advanced Caldari Tactical Medium Frame C/X

Neo Advanced Caldari Tactical Medium Frame C/X

Advanced Caldari Tactical Medium Frame C/X

Tier 21

State Prototype Caldari Tacitcal Medium Frame Ck. X

Neo Prototype Caldari Tactical Medium Frame Ck. X

Prototype Caldari Tactical Medium Frame Ck. X

Tier 22

State Caldari Tactical Assault Hardsuit C-X

Neo Caldari Tactical Assault Hardsuit C-X

Prototype Caldari Tactical Assault Hardsuit C-X

Tier 23

State Advanced Caldari Tactial Assault Hardsuit C/X

Neo Advanced Caldari Tactical Assault Hardsuit C/X

Advanced Caldari Tactical Assault Hardsuit C/X

Tier 24

State Prototype Caldari tactial Assault Hardsuit Ck. X

Neo Prototype Caldari Tactical Assault Hardsuit Ck. X

Prototype Caldari Tactical Assault Hardsuit Ck. X

Tier 25

State Attack Dropsuit

Tier 26

Guristas Attack Dropsuit

Tier 27

Pithi Attack Dropsuit

Tier 28

Pithias Attack Dropsuit

Tier 29

Dread Guristast Dropsuit

Tier 30

Balacs's Experimental Attack Suit
Kirin's Experimimental Attack Suit

Tier 31

State Issued Attack Suit

#Race2bottom

Why would you still try to improve this game?

Who cares now?

Even if CCP didn't drive the last nail into the coffin, they never listen to this kind of feedback from players anyways. You know how many threads like this have just vanished? It's just a waste of time, it always was, and now it has been officially confirmed, that it always will be.

There is quite literally, NO point to this thread, or any like it.

Dafuq is the point of this conversation?

CCP will do what they want to do. Suggesting anything is a waste of your time and energy, and a greater waste of anyone who has to read its time. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

It was actually made before the fail note presentation this morning

lol who bumped this. go on raise your hand.

Prepare to get assblasted when tiericide is announced for DUST in 2.5 hours.

Called it btw. They announced tiericide during the presentation I said they would. People were already pretty assblasted about other things by then though. The only thing that was announced today that I didn't expect was the move to PC. I was expecting them to announce EVE Legion being developed for PS4 while still supporting DUST for PS3 until Legion was ready for launch.

*cough*the dark cloud*cough*

It's interesting though right - there is no necromancy going on here, it was a debate I was enjoying just this morning, and it was started by a CPM who would have known about Legion...

[tinfoilhat]

So maybe tiercide is the balance method going forward? I have just enough faith to presume CCP isn't now hiding info about canning the game in the next few months - it may, and I know I may regret saying this - may keep going until Legion is released.

They may just balance out the various aspects precisely to make it more 'pick up and play' (hopefully not too much).

Could also be why they've been chucking SP around like confetti - it may not hurt the power gap as much as one might think when new players start in a 'post-tier' DUST (and all the hardcore tryhards who live for tiers have just rage-quit anyway).

Basically they could do it just to make the game more accessible and fun for now - not because it makes developing further content in the future any easier.

[/tinfoilhat]

Just a bit of fun in these gloomy times.