DUST Search - Was I Overpowered?

Assault Swarm Launcher wrote:

Sure I could nuke vehicles into orbit, and it wasn't difficult to do so, but I think everyone forgot one of the most important points of balance when they were discussing my nerfs.

To use me, one had to specifically set their suit up to destroy vehicles. I wasn't unbalance in the sense that my users had geared their fitting towards destroying vehicles.

While I truly could nuke anything that wasn't a Logistics LAV, any infantry unit worth the air they breathe would have easily killed me in seconds. Why didn''t you pilots just use infantry instead when you needed to deal with AV? Why did feel as if your 1 turret should've be effective against all builds of Infantry?

If you were unable to field multiple roles to counter different infantry setups, then you were slaughtered like a lamb. What was the problem with this?

Was it illogical to think that something that is specifically fitted to be effective against something should be effective against the target, but not negate it completely?

I don't think the nerf was justified.

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Assault Swarm Launcher 50	Posted - 2014.05.01 02:24:00 - [1] - Quote Sure I could nuke vehicles into orbit, and it wasn't difficult to do so, but I think everyone forgot one of the most important points of balance when they were discussing my nerfs. To use me, one had to specifically set their suit up to destroy vehicles. I wasn't unbalance in the sense that my users had geared their fitting towards destroying vehicles. While I truly could nuke anything that wasn't a Logistics LAV, any infantry unit worth the air they breathe would have easily killed me in seconds. Why didn''t you pilots just use infantry instead when you needed to deal with AV? Why did feel as if your 1 turret should've be effective against all builds of Infantry? If you were unable to field multiple roles to counter different infantry setups, then you were slaughtered like a lamb. What was the problem with this? Was it illogical to think that something that is specifically fitted to be effective against something should be effective against the target, but not negate it completely? I don't think the nerf was justified. [...]
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4502	Posted - 2014.05.01 02:30:00 - [2] - Quote There there Assault Swarm Launcher. Why don't you have a nice cup of tea, and talk this over with Core Flaylock, Allotek Plasma Cannon, and CreoDron Ion Pistol. I'm sure they would be happy to have you. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 3142	Posted - 2014.05.01 02:34:00 - [3] - Quote You were near uncounterable for vehicle players thanks to the obscene speed with which you destroyed enemy armour, and could shut down an deny an entire battlefield. True, your larger brother Forge Gun was even more obscene, but unlike you, we could guess where he was firing from and move away. Invisible swarms = brokenly powerful, and your range nerf was because CCP is too lazy to fix the actual problem. ak.0 // 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees. Jason Person for CMP!
Vitharr Foebane Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1097	Posted - 2014.05.01 02:36:00 - [4] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: There there Assault Swarm Launcher. Why don't you have a nice cup of tea, and talk this over with Core Flaylock, Allotek Plasma Cannon, and CreoDron Ion Pistol. I'm sure they would be happy to have you. Viziam Laser Rifle called, says he is way better off now and regrets that he can't attend the pity parties anymore (NOT! ) Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 260	Posted - 2014.05.01 02:39:00 - [5] - Quote Nothing like getting two hit from 300 meters away from a fire and forget weapon. Director of G0DS Tanker, Logi, Heavy, and Scout... at your service!
Echoist Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 280	Posted - 2014.05.01 02:44:00 - [6] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: There there Assault Swarm Launcher. Why don't you have a nice cup of tea, and talk this over with Core Flaylock, Allotek Plasma Cannon, and CreoDron Ion Pistol. I'm sure they would be happy to have you. Viziam Laser Rifle called, says he is way better off now and regrets that he can't attend the pity parties anymore (NOT! ) Just the viziam? I'd say all their cousins from basic to proto lol. Dropship Gunner STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle. Owner of a "Insta Bacon Machine" called STINGY
Assault Swarm Launcher 56	Posted - 2014.05.01 12:58:00 - [7] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Nothing like getting two hit from 300 meters away from a fire and forget weapon. WTF were you driving? A Sica? [...]
Assault Swarm Launcher 56	Posted - 2014.05.01 12:59:00 - [8] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: There there Assault Swarm Launcher. Why don't you have a nice cup of tea, and talk this over with Core Flaylock, Allotek Plasma Cannon, and CreoDron Ion Pistol. I'm sure they would be happy to have you. I'm not good enough for them. [...]
Yoma Carrim Kinsho Swords Caldari State 501	Posted - 2014.05.01 13:06:00 - [9] - Quote AH HA YOUR THE ONNE PEACE OF Ishukone equipment I don't have! (no wait NVM don't have the smg ether carry on) Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
Haerr Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 512	Posted - 2014.05.01 13:27:00 - [10] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: There there Assault Swarm Launcher. Why don't you have a nice cup of tea, and talk this over with Core Flaylock, Allotek Plasma Cannon, and CreoDron Ion Pistol. I'm sure they would be happy to have you. This made me smile. Mr. J. Pearson for CPM!

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2805	Posted - 2014.05.01 13:32:00 - [11] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: There there Assault Swarm Launcher. Why don't you have a nice cup of tea, and talk this over with Core Flaylock, Allotek Plasma Cannon, and CreoDron Ion Pistol. I'm sure they would be happy to have you. Viziam Laser Rifle called, says he is way better off now and regrets that he can't attend the pity parties anymore (NOT! ) I am normally a logi, but I have done literally nothing but run Amarr assault with Templar/ELM LR in ambush for 2 weeks straight since they fixed the bonus. It never gets old! "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 115	Posted - 2014.05.01 13:38:00 - [12] - Quote I haven't given up on you, and I will continue to throw SP after SP at you until you (hopefully, one day) make me proud! "You're my boy, Blue!"
Assault Swarm Launcher 63	Posted - 2014.05.01 13:58:00 - [13] - Quote Mojo XXXIII wrote: I haven't given up on you, and I will continue to throw SP after SP at you until you (hopefully, one day) make me proud! "You're my boy, Blue!" :D [...]
Triple Repair Madrugar Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.05.01 14:03:00 - [14] - Quote Maybe you were over powered, but now? Now you're just sad and barely tickle my plates. It's okay friend, maybe you'll get your omph back one day.
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 265	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:15:00 - [15] - Quote Assault Swarm Launcher wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Nothing like getting two hit from 300 meters away from a fire and forget weapon. WTF were you driving? A Sica? I mean pre-1.7 my madrugar with hardeners and armor got two hit by swarms more than 300 meters away. Director of G0DS Tanker, Logi, Heavy, and Scout... at your service!
Assault Swarm Launcher 70	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:21:00 - [16] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Assault Swarm Launcher wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Nothing like getting two hit from 300 meters away from a fire and forget weapon. WTF were you driving? A Sica? I mean pre-1.7 my madrugar with hardeners and armor got two hit by swarms more than 300 meters away. With 2 Hardeners, I wasn't 2HKing anything Unless of course you'd like to present math proving otherwise. [...]
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5280	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:23:00 - [17] - Quote Hey Assault Swarm Launcher! Your momma was a breach flaylock pistol! Yeah ain said it. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12991	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:23:00 - [18] - Quote Assault Swarm Launcher wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: There there Assault Swarm Launcher. Why don't you have a nice cup of tea, and talk this over with Core Flaylock, Allotek Plasma Cannon, and CreoDron Ion Pistol. I'm sure they would be happy to have you. I'm not good enough for them. My CreoDron Ion Pistol won't judge you. Come, friend, cry together. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Sad Heavy Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 77	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:28:00 - [19] - Quote Assault Swarm Launcher wrote: Sure I could nuke vehicles into orbit, and it wasn't difficult to do so, but I think everyone forgot one of the most important points of balance when they were discussing my nerfs. To use me, one had to specifically set their suit up to destroy vehicles. I wasn't unbalance in the sense that my users had geared their fitting towards destroying vehicles. While I truly could nuke anything that wasn't a Logistics LAV, any infantry unit worth the air they breathe would have easily killed me in seconds. Why didn''t you pilots just use infantry instead when you needed to deal with AV? Why did feel as if your 1 turret should've be effective against all builds of Infantry? If you were unable to field multiple roles to counter different infantry setups, then you were slaughtered like a lamb. What was the problem with this? Was it illogical to think that something that is specifically fitted to be effective against something should be effective against the target, but not negate it completely? I don't think the nerf was justified. Never used you, I much preferred your basic variant cousin Scrubby Python Pilot, Corp Chat Troll, Elite Scrub, Caldari Loyalist
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 574	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:36:00 - [20] - Quote I never knew you in your prime but from all I hear you must have been a knockout. I still love you, even in your faded glory and I dream of the day of your triumphant return. Because, that's why.

RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 88	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:41:00 - [21] - Quote I don't think you were as OP so much as old HAVs were UP. I would like to see you reinstated to your former glory and see if you balance out versus today's vehicles (since we really don't wanna hear Pilots whining about losing anything) The guy from the Hamburger train.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 391	Posted - 2014.05.01 22:14:00 - [22] - Quote Ah, the millions of Isk I lost to you, ASL... I'll never forget those days, tanking was fun, it was a constant game of cat and mouse, you made me cry, laugh... Sniffles I just... want... Sobs I MISS YOU AND THE FIGHTS WE HAD! PLEASE COME BACK TO ME! Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 219	Posted - 2014.05.01 23:57:00 - [23] - Quote Best thread topic ever Open Beta (03/26/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.
21yrOld Knight Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 852	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:32:00 - [24] - Quote Nah you still are over powered! You some how gained an intelligence, something no other weapon has! Are you a drone? Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous *General John Ripper Said I was Dust Famous* Who else thinks I'm Famous?
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5751	Posted - 2014.05.02 00:38:00 - [25] - Quote I'd like to state that the Scrambler Pistol is nowhere near as bad as people are saying it is. The Pistol is still damn good and more than capable of holding its own. It's just less spammable now....but you know what they say: "If you can't spam a weapon they don't spam a weapon" Meanwhile I'm crying over my Ion Pistol being yet another Gallente weapon being introduced in pre-nerfed fashion.
Assault Swarm Launcher 76	Posted - 2014.05.02 02:30:00 - [26] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Nah you still are over powered! You some how gained an intelligence, something no other weapon has! Are you a drone? Technically, yes I am a drone. [...]
Assault Swarm Launcher 76	Posted - 2014.05.02 02:31:00 - [27] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Ah, the millions of Isk I lost to you, ASL... I'll never forget those days, tanking was fun, it was a constant game of cat and mouse, you made me cry, laugh... Sniffles I just... want... Sobs I MISS YOU AND THE FIGHTS WE HAD! PLEASE COME BACK TO ME! Why Wolfman?!?! Why did you take this away from us? [...]
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 394	Posted - 2014.05.02 07:24:00 - [28] - Quote Assault Swarm Launcher wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Ah, the millions of Isk I lost to you, ASL... I'll never forget those days, tanking was fun, it was a constant game of cat and mouse, you made me cry, laugh... Sniffles I just... want... Sobs I MISS YOU AND THE FIGHTS WE HAD! PLEASE COME BACK TO ME! Why Wolfman?!?! Why did you take this away from us? W-what? I-I swear! I've only broken out my officer scrambler pistol a few times! I-it made me do it! You gotta believe me, that thing is possessed with an evil spirit and it's going to kiiiillllll meeeee! Nova Knives are OP! Nerf em before you lose all your proto suits!


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